Germany were favorites.
Robin van Persie
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Germany were favorites.
@ Pete. Why do you people bother with him and Gillespie they are hurting big time just leave them be. We would be the same if our heros kept leaving us season after season.
Agreed, I would've gone mental if Ronaldo or Rooney went to Arsenal or Citeh. Tevez was a cnut so i didn't really give a shit.
What we need is the Caf's favourite calculator Gillespie to give us the percentage breakdown on Arsenal's chances of winning each competition this season.
I do think Wilshere's return and the probability of Arsenal winning something next season do not have to be mutually exclusive. I can't see why they can't win one cup and finish in third/fourth next season, with a Diaby in midfield.
The problem is they purposely get out of cups or just don't put the effort in. Which betters their chances of finishing in the top four. The one season they tried like mad to win something, they lost the League Cup final to Birmingham and everything went pear shaped. Arsenal do not have a squad to last three competitions in April, let alone two. They just have a good 'league' team, nothing more. Perhaps that riles Van Persie.
I hope Wilshire comes back fast...England need him too.
The answer to the "Is peterstorey on a WUM or is he a realistic football fan?" question is somewhere in the middle.
Arsenal are not as likely to win a big cup as United this season. While they have bought well, it takes time for new signings to gel. As with Chelsea, I don't think we'll see them click into any kind of league winning from until next season (13/14) at the earliest. Saying United are no more likely to win a cup is just not true. The claim that RVP switching means he's only after the cash is also untrue. He stands a better chance of winning trophies with United.
But it is in no way ridiculous to suggest Arsenal have a decent chance of winning things this year. One could even say they are overdue. Pete, like every other football fan, is biased towards his own club and like all Arsenal fans atm, is optimistic about the future given his club's signings this summer. He's no more blinkered than many United fans on here, holding him to a different standard doesn't really make sense.
Arsenal are not as likely to win a big cup as United this season. While they have bought well, it takes time for new signings to gel. As with Chelsea, I don't think we'll see them click into any kind of league winning from until next season (13/14) at the earliest. Saying United are no more likely to win a cup is just not true. The claim that RVP switching means he's only after the cash is also untrue. He stands a better chance of winning trophies with United.
But it is in no way ridiculous to suggest Arsenal have a decent chance of winning things this year. One could even say they are overdue. Pete, like every other football fan, is biased towards his own club and like all Arsenal fans atm, is optimistic about the future given his club's signings this summer. He's no more blinkered than many United fans on here, holding him to a different standard doesn't really make sense.
Say if this transfer goes through, there will be some needed needle with The Arsenal haha
They had hundreds of millions of pounds worth of investment. You got Podolski.
We really shouldn't should we. Suppose there is a skill to his art form.
Of course it's not. It never is. They can win the two domestic cups every season. The big two are out of question for them, not so for us. It was the categoric certainty with which he said they're 'at least as likely if not more likely than Man Utd' to win something.
Midnight has passed. So?
So what was supposed to happen at midnight, what did I miss?
Their squad has improved massively so far though. Cazorla - cracking player, great upgrade to the dross like Rosicky and Arshavin. Giroud - Joint topscorer in Ligue Un, will provide great backup/partnership to RVP compared to average strikers like Park, Bendtner and the wimp. Podolski - quite proven with Germany, direct (which Arsenal needs), great upgrade on the crap they have had to put up with on the wide attacking positions.
Get Sahin in there (if that loan ends up being made) and Wilshere and they have a good squad perfectly able to challenge.
Chesny
Sagna Kosc Verm Santos
Sahin (Arteta) Song
Cazorla Wilshere Podolski
RVP
Sagna Kosc Verm Santos
Sahin (Arteta) Song
Cazorla Wilshere Podolski
RVP
Walcott, Giroud, Arteta, Mertesacker, Gervinho, Oxlade etc on the bench.
They have made massive improvements compared to last season, but they are really not that far off us anymore, if every thing clicks for them man management wise. They could definately do with a new left back, but there is a lack of proper ones around really.
shucks. I was convinced teams agree a specific time in which to finalise transfer dealings. Preferably at midnight as it sounds so dramatic.
So, Wilshere has been out for how long ? well long, and Arsenal fans think he will just jump into the form he was in playing Barcelona in the CL?
'Caf Muppet Mania as Robin van Injury heads for OT':
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/robin-van-persie-transfer-arsenal-1238159
That makes me want him even more tbf
He doesn't come across as someone who would go to the club who offers him the most and if he does want trophies then he knows where to find us.
Chamakh ring any bells?
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City won more than us last year. Joining City these days guarantees trophy challenges and big wages.
Too right. Pete is a good footy poster, far better than the majority on this forum.
Really don't understand the criticism towards him.
He's a great poster when he wants to be, but he does enjoy the odd WUM. He insults as much as he gets though.
Any way back to Van Persie - would like him but doubt he will come. Still would prefer a a first choice (not a rotation) midfielder though.
Not sure what you're getting at, completely different players. One shined far more in the french league becoming top scorer in the progress, the other often relegated to the bench in favor of Cavenaghi.
Not saying he'll be a great success, but you can't really compare them since they never were at the same level in the same league.
Keen followers of the Van Persie thread, I just saw some quotes on the Sun's website. Have they been posted/endlessly interpreted and re-interpreted?
Have the signed the fecked alright or not? If not are we going to sign him?
Doesnt sound too optimistic. It's obvious Wenger doesnt want to sell to us
Well i am glad, you take such keen interest in our squad & it's shortcoming.
We shall do the same with yours too.
You guys should sack Harry Rednapp, he is awful.
Exactly
Surely you see the difference between quality and potential between Rooney and Moura even at that age?
PSG doesn't. that's not the point.
Ferguson has no right to say the world has gone mad, when he himself has been one of the initiator.
Rooney was a homegrown talent who had been EPL tested and was fresh from a superb international tournament were he cemented himself as an English international. Lucas Moura is a highly talented Brazil U23 reserve.
The massive mark up on the exchange rate really distorts those sums. Funnily enough, we didn't sign Rooney with the eurozone on the verge of collapse. We also didn't pay for him in euros. The inflation mark-up is also wilfully misleading. Football transfer fees aren't index-linked. Don't let that get in the way of some juvenile sniggering though.
Realistically, how much would you pay for Moura?
Rooney was far from unproven at the time, he had played in the Euros and was one of the most influential players for England. What has Moura done so far in his relatively short career?
Sir Alex isn't implying that paying that much money for a youngster means the world has gone mad, he is implying that paying that much money for an unproven youngsters means that the world has gone mad. Massive difference.
Moura thread in FF.
The funny thing is that when I said that Rooney was not worth 30m (rumors reported prior the Euros 2004 when he was still just an illustrate Everton reserve). I was laughed at. The same people wouldn't have minded spending 30m on Brazil's U23 reserve.
Rooney was worth £30m though, hence the laughter directed towards you. What's your point?
Clearly, Ferguson's thinking is premised on Anderson/Cleverley staying fit.
And before anyone says: "yeah, but that's a long shot", it's no different to Arsenal saying they're relying on Wilshere staying fit.
Well that's a bit worrying. I'd like us to be in a stronger position than Arsenal.
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