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So Arsenal are working to ensure it's ABU...

We'll be relying on RvP wanting to push through a move to us.
 
I don't have a gut feeling about it. We can't get a break through with Arsenal. Its hard to know their thoughts."
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Fergie on Arsenal
 
Fergie on RvP: "I don't have a gut feeling about it. We can't get a break through with Arsenal. Its hard to know their thoughts.I don't know what Arsenal's thoughts are because they're not giving anything away."
 
RonaldoVII said:
Sir Alex on RvP: "We've made a bid, they've been trying to negotiate with other clubs. We have to persevere. Hopefully it comes our way."
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Basically looks like they want foreign clubs to get involved as they'd rather not sell within the PL.

Have a feeling this one will go against us as well. Arsenal seem to be run by a bunch of ABUs.
 
KM said:
I think Song's going. Walcott, I'm not sure about as he's incredibly average.

Ferguson, like Wenger is the master of long term planning. There's no chance that he'll leave his successor with a squad in need for a over-haul. IMO, our defense and goalkeeper is already sorted for the future.
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You rate Jones, I don't. We'll see on that.

Song's going to stay, he's still got 2 years and Wenger will ask for 1 more at least.
 
They just don't want to sell to us or they atleast think they can get more out of someone else.

By openly saying that I think its a message to RVP himself, we want you but your club won't play ball, balls in your court to stamp your feet if you want to be a United player.
 
Sam said:
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

You really do come out with some incredibly retarded comments. If you'd read/heard the comments Fergie has made about Welbeck throughout with short career at United, you'd know how highly he rates him, and has done from a very young age. His displays last season will have just enhanced that view.
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He may well rate him, but it's a bit of a kick in the teeth for him, wouldn't you say? For me, Rooney, RVP and Welbeck cannot play in the same team for a big game. And the latter will drop out in the very season he should be starting to play in the big games.
 
Not the usual tactic of getting players by Fergie, trying to convince van Persie into pushing Arsenal to sell to us.
 
The club as not moved from it's initial bid and arse want (if reports are true 20mil) plus they would rather sell abroad than to us.Be shocked if this goes through.
 
I don't get this Wenger will sell to any club before United. As far as I know, last season he was happy to sell Nasri to us. It was the player who made a U-Turn.
 
alastair said:
He may well rate him, but it's a bit of a kick in the teeth for him, wouldn't you say? For me, Rooney, RVP and Welbeck cannot play in the same team for a big game. And the latter will drop out in the very season he should be starting to play in the big games.
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Not really, the lad's what, 21 years old? He's got years and years at United ahead of him. And he wont peak for at least another 4/5 years. Which would, just coincidentally coincide with RVP (If we signed him) coming to the latter end of his career. When you look at it like that, and consider Fergie's ability for long term planning, it makes perfect sense. Add in Fergie's love of 4 top class strikers then Rooney, RVP, Welbeck and Hernandez seems just about perfect (providing Berbatov is sold)
 
Fergie on RvP and Moura on manutd.com
Sir Alex Ferguson says he is persevering in his bid to sign Robin van Persie after losing out on Lucas Moura.

With PSG declaring they have won the race to sign Brazilian Lucas for a club record fee, speculation has been rife that the Reds are stepping up attempts to land the Arsenal captain. Although the Gunners would clearly prefer to sell to a club outside of the Barclays Premier League, the boss is hopeful a deal can be struck.

"I can't give you any more information," he said when asked about van Persie. "We have made a bid and they've been trying to negotiate with other clubs. We just have to persevere. Hopefully it will come our way. We're trying our best but there's no progress at this moment in time.

"I don't have a gut feeling on it at the moment, I must admit. We're not getting any breakthrough with Arsenal. It's difficult to say why they're operating this way. I don't know what their thoughts are because they're not giving anything away."

Regarding Lucas' sale from Sao Paulo, it is further evidence that the cash-laden Parisiens mean business in the transfer market.

"I find it quite amazing that a club can pay €45million for a 19-year-old boy," Sir Alex continued. "To make a mark on everyone - to tell everyone that PSG are here - they've signed Thiago Silva from Milan and Zlatan Ibrahimovic.

"They must have spent about £150m in the last month. As you know, the only deterrent to that is UEFA. In the conditions of European football, you don't qualify for Europe by winning the league or coming second - you only get in by invitation. That's where, hopefully, UEFA can have some power. When somebody's paying £45m for a 19-year-old boy you have to say the game's gone mad."
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The only way this deal will happen is if RVP stamps his feet and throws a hissy fit to force a deal. Clearly arsenal have no interest in selling to us at all which is not a surprise really.
 
Those quotes tell me we won't be signing Van Persie. They're obviously not willing to sell to us and I can see them keeping him for the season if they can't get the deal they want elsewhere.
 
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With Manchester City appearing to accept defeat in the race for the Arsenal striker, and Juventus baulking at the player’s wage demands, United are moving quickly to conclude a deal.

Their willingness to match the £220,000 a week wages earned by Rooney has tipped the balance in their favour. The financial rewards will be staggering for the 29-year-old Dutchman at Old Trafford, and somewhat unprecedented given the stage of Van Persie’s career.

Sir Alex Ferguson’s determination to reclaim the title from City, as he enters the twilight years of his managerial reign, could not be clearer. For the United manager to parade Van Persie, while Mancini frets about missing out on a player he had made clear he wished to add to his squad, will be a bold reassertion of Old Trafford spending power.

City’s Premier League win in May was a euphoric climax to years of Abu Dhabi-financed rebuilding, albeit at a lavish price, but the excessive expenditure has been curtailed so far this summer as the newly-crowned champions look to run their business more sensibly.

Riled by the loss of their title and no doubt stung by criticism from their own supporters that their unpopular owners aren’t spending enough, United appear to be going the other way with their Van Persie chase. There is a sense of neighbourhood watch about the Van Persie pursuit, with the Manchester clubs recognising the threat the striker’s presence will have on each club’s aspirations.

To invest so heavily in a player who, as a striker, may have only three years of his prime remaining not only demonstrates United’s ambition, but is also indicative of how desperate they are and how willing to abandon usual spending policy to reclaim their No 1 status.

Signing Van Persie for such astronomical figures makes sense from a footballing perspective, but not necessarily from a business one.

United’s most recent transactions have tended to take both into equally careful consideration, with Ferguson targeting younger players with years ahead of them and a potential sell-on value.

On this occasion he appears to be concerned solely on the immediate, short-term benefits – possibly reflecting how long he himself has remaining at the helm at Old Trafford.
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iSparky said:
The only way this deal will happen is if RVP stamps his feet and throws a hissy fit to force a deal. Clearly arsenal have no interest in selling to us at all which is not a surprise really.
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think RVP has made it clear he wants to come to us only. The only stumbling block is if Arsenal wuill accept our offer. But if the wondow closes, Arsenal are screwed for obvious reasons.
 
Brophs said:
Those quotes tell me we won't be signing Van Persie. They're obviously not willing to sell to us and I can see them keeping him for the season if they can't get the deal they want elsewhere.
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I think he's going, but those quotes do sound like the gooners want him to go to Juve.
 
Red Dreams said:
think RVP has made it clear he wants to come to us only. The only stumbling block is if Arsenal wuill accept our offer. But if the wondow closes, Arsenal are screwed for obvious reasons.
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Yes I know he wants to come to us but he may have to really kick up a stink to push a deal through because clearly at the moment arsenal don't want to play ball.
 
I hope Fergie has another deal on the boil somewhere because we seem to have put all our efforts into two very difficult targets for different reasons.
 
SAF said:
When somebody's paying €45m for a 19-year-old boy you have to say the game's gone mad.
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Wayne Rooney's fee for his transfer from Everton to Manchester United in 2004 at age 18:
£26,500,000

Adjusted for inflation to today's market:
£31,744,000.

And finally, converted to euros:
€40,200,000

So that's a WHOPPING €4,800,000 less than what PSG have paid for Moura. Funny how the game's only "gone mad" when it's not us blowing other teams out of the water by overpaying for players.
 
I reckon if this deal falls through then that's us done for the summer tbh
 
alastair said:
United have more of a chance of winning trophies in the very short term than Arsenal. Simple as that.

That said, it's still a strange move for you lot if you get him. For £20m, you could buy someone younger and less injury prone in a position where you genuinely needed to strengthen. Weird signing that would probably be some kind of attempt at a statement of intent than anything else.
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Because thats what we do. Sign players as a statement of intent.

I wonder what the message was with Bebe
 
After hearing Fergie I am less optimistic than I was before. Sounds like there is still along to go in the transfer including getting Arsenal to want to sell to us, let alone agree a fee with the club.
 
Ekeke said:
Because thats what we do. Sign players as a statement of intent.

I wonder what the message was with Bebe
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Bebe was a very clever one. It was a metaphor for future young talents: 'We'll provide a home for you' or something like that. Clearly it's worked - just look at Lucas
 
Count Orduck said:
Wayne Rooney's fee for his transfer from Everton to Manchester United in 2004 at age 18:
£26,500,000

Adjusted for inflation to today's market:
£31,744,000.

And finally, converted to euros:
€40,200,000

So that's a WHOPPING €4,800,000 less than what PSG have paid for Moura. Funny how the game's only "gone mad" when it's not us blowing other teams out of the water by overpaying for players.
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£10 million up front. And no
 
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