He's acting like a little boy. Deserves to rot on the bench with that attitude.
Robin Van Persie - Were you happy we sold Jaap Stam?
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Let's hope he does.
Like other star players, he is probably in denial about his declining abilities and struggles to adjust his behaviour.
Fenerbache should just fire him. If he's going to not give a feck so openly, that can only be destabilizing to the squad.
What a fecking tart.
What a fecking tart.
Shows you how shallow nature of football fans though 
Always thought he was a massive twat, and a dirty one at that too, at Arsenal.
Then he signed for us and I loved him. "He was our twat. He had fight in him which others lacked etc. etc."
Now he's just back to acting the twat. Have a bit of sympathy for him etc, but yeah, he's causing his own demise whether through bad career choices, form and/or unprofessionalism etc.
Always thought he was a massive twat, and a dirty one at that too, at Arsenal.
Then he signed for us and I loved him. "He was our twat. He had fight in him which others lacked etc. etc."
Now he's just back to acting the twat. Have a bit of sympathy for him etc, but yeah, he's causing his own demise whether through bad career choices, form and/or unprofessionalism etc.
Perhaps he was just saying to Memphis what everyone should be screaming at him.
PASS.THE.feckING.BALL
PASS.THE.feckING.BALL
Shows you how shallow nature of football fans though
Always thought he was a massive twat, and a dirty one at that too, at Arsenal.
Then he signed for us and I loved him. "He was our twat. He had fight in him which others lacked etc. etc."
Now he's just back to acting the twat. Have a bit of sympathy for him etc, but yeah, he's causing his own demise whether through bad career choices, form and/or unprofessionalism etc.
Yeah, I think that he was a twat but a twat that I have always loved. IIRC Arsenal locker room celebrated his departure.
yeah, he was always a talented (albeit injury prone!) twat, for sure. It was a bit like Shearer. If Shearer signed for us, I'd have loved him no doubt, but in the end, I thought he was a twat as well - though supremely talented - he was 1 of the more underrated #9's in world football, IMO (but that's another debate).
Certainly possible, although I think there were signs a decline was already setting in during the second half of that season when he went a crazy run of games without scoring. When did Fergie inform the players he was leaving?
He signed to play for Fergie and not United and when Fergie retired he just seemed to sulk and never put the effort in for David Moyes . Fergie made him his first choice and shunted Rooney about and dropped him and to be fair to Van Persie he delivered the goods . Whatever anyone thinks about Rooney he put far more effort into his game for Moyes than Van Persie . Van Persie seemed to initially give his all for LVG when he arrived but when the team was struggling he just seemed like he couldn`t be arsed or maybe his legs just couldn`t do it anymore . I`m glad LVG moved him on cos his attitude at Fenerbace stinks . If he wanted to still enjoy his football he should have gone to the MLS or a lesser club in Holland maybe and played for the love of football instead of the money as he surely doesn`t need it .
Again, he didn't bring up his money, so I don't see why others should bring it up, in order to use it against him.
He scored 12 goals in 21 games for the manager he apparently didn't try for and got him a hat-trick that sent us to CL quarterfinal (even though Moyes had clearly underlined that it was HIM who got us quarterfinal).
Plus he was injured half a season really.
A lot of the fans here fell for his PR, he was very good at it, saying all the right things.Shows you how shallow nature of football fans though
Always thought he was a massive twat, and a dirty one at that too, at Arsenal.
Then he signed for us and I loved him. "He was our twat. He had fight in him which others lacked etc. etc."
Now he's just back to acting the twat. Have a bit of sympathy for him etc, but yeah, he's causing his own demise whether through bad career choices, form and/or unprofessionalism etc.
I never really warmed to him, of course I cheered for him as he was our player and I enjoyed watching him the title winning season, but I never felt he was sincere about what he was saying concerning the club.
In any case, he's showing terrible attitude at Fener currently.
Yeah I can believe that, though I did warm to him, quite a bit. Especially that hug on the touchline with SAF after this Stoke penalty
etc.But yeah, he's always been a bit of a twat, which is much easier to overlook as long as they're putting in a shift for your club.
then he can make the effort to have a professional attitude while at work
12 in 21 was in the league, it was 18 in 28 overall. His scoring rate was actually better under Moyes than under Ferguson.
These fecking players were letting Moyesy down.
Do you think Van Persie performed as well in his second season at United as he did in his first?
He performed as you'd expect a 30/31-year old good striker who had a lot of trouble with injuries in the past and was definitely ageing a bit but still had something to offer. It wasn't for the lack of trying, certainly. If anything 12-13 was more of a freak season for him, mostly down to the fact that we got him right in the middle of his amazing run of form.
More than that, got him the sack, fs.
Just before he reached the last chapter of Ferguson's book too.
So no, then.
Whether it was for lack of trying or not is impossible to prove. One big difference I noticed was him winning far less defensive headers than he did under Fergie. Read into that what you will.
Of course not. Wouldn't have performed any other way under Ferguson and did not perform any other way under van Gaal who he respected a lot (actually he got considerably worse last Summer). I don't think it was Ferguson leaving that influenced his form that heavily.
Once the rot set in, he couldn't turn things round alright. As we can see by his struggles in Turkey. We'll never how much of that was psychological. I do think it's possible he was pissed off at Fergie retiring when he did and struggled to motivate himself as a result. Like I said, though. Impossible to prove.
Personally I thought he was playing maybe slightly below his first season level for the first few months under Moyes (until around the time he scored the headed winner vs. Arsenal at home) but the team in general was obviously playing badly. Then after he came back from injury in the new year his level dipped, his overall game wasn't as good and by that point the team was clearly in crisis and did not trust the manager so he started to slack off with the exception of the Olympiakos game.
Under van Gaal I think his further decline was due to a mix of things. He wasn't fully fit at the World Cup after the Olympiakos injury but he knew it was his last chance to play one at his peak and that may have hindered his start of the season. There was an all round drop in his level physically because that tends to happen to a striker's game in their early 30's and with his previous injury history it was always more likely to happen to him sooner than others. Also some of the tactics like van Gaal playing Falcao with him as a pair probably didn't suit his natural game.
Having said that I still don't get this idea that some have that after Ferguson left he was 'shite' and 'useless' because he still scored some important goals and at a rate of 1 in 2 whilst being hindered by injuries.
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Yeah, I'd agree with all of that. He was nowhere near "shite" under Moyes. Just a long way short of the outrageous standards he set in the previous two or three seasons.
Not to completely derail this thread but I think looking back on the Moyes season that was discussed earlier, if you've got two strikers who despite being injured (for a few weeks here and there in Rooney's case and a few months in van Persie's), still score 19 and 18 goals all comps. respectively you really have to look at the defence and particularly your own management and tactics because we've done better under van Gaal last season and Ferguson some years before in the league scoring fewer goals than in 13/14.
At times though, some of the players were blatantly not following Moyes' instructions and thus for me, you'll end up seeing good strikers still putting away chances. That's mostly on Moyes though - he didn't command any respect from them.
The problem then is that it also meant the team was very disjointed and would get punished by any side that was well-drilled at the back or had good chemistry in the final third. Which is usually what happened under Moyes - even against unlikely opponents.
How was it a freak season? He had been in ridiculous form for 18 months leading into the 12/13 season.
The reality is that van Persie is, and was, a dreadful strike partner. Which is why it always baffled me that people saw him becoming some Bergkamp-esque link up man as he 'lost his legs'. He's dreadful at it.They obviously did. Remember when screenshots like this were a recurring event?
Meh. We got 6 good months out of him. All that was needed.
Strange why he went to Turkey though
Strange why he went to Turkey though
Is it true that he was once caught bagging players' boots for the purposes of selling them on while they were out training whilst he was an Arsenal player? Seems unlikely given his earnings, but then again it has been known for a footballer to pinch things (toilet seats, Gucci purses at Harrods, cheese spread) at the same time that they're earning thousands per week.
What a goal!
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Two great finishes by Van Persie. Who said he was past it?
How can you go from scoring that flying header against Spain in the WC to this in 15 months?!!