Has Valencia been off to South America??
Could be Giggs/Nani out wide
Could be Giggs/Nani out wide
Robin van Persie | 2012-14 Performances
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That's a positive only for Hernandez though. For our sake you want Van Persie fit.
We are lucky to have such strength in depth. We are freaking out over Hernandez starting the game where as 90% of the teams in PL would start Hernandez. 
I hope we won't be starting Giggs. Love the man, but let's not kid ourselves here, he shouldn't be starting.
Or maybe very fortunate that he's only slightly injured!
Hernandez and Welbeck should be good enough (easily). The former has already scored goals in UCL knock-out stages and against best teams in England and the latter proved it against big guns last season just as well.
eh?
Giggs is still a class act - maybe not first choice (given our strength) but would get into most teams in the league's first 11
I havent noticed any drop in stamina etc... (probably because we use him so sensibly)
We are lucky to have such strength in depth. We are freaking out over Hernandez starting the game where as 90% of the teams in PL would start Hernandez.
No they wouldn't.
We can need a bit of "luck". The injuries are piling up, it's crazy.
A confident Hernandez is important for United as well I think.
Nowhere near as important as Rooney and RVP. Without those 2 we are severely weakened and Hernandez has it all to prove for us. Hope he comes good again if he gets his chance this saturday.
I think so yes. I heard something about him kicking up a fuss about how bad the referee was after being sent off.
Uncharacteristic I think.
Only City do not need him as a starter. In any other team in the league he would start when in form. He guarantees goals.
They definitely would.
The only teams with better starting strikers then Hernandez are city, Newcastle, tottenham and maybe Torres for Chelsea. He'd be a definite starter for everyone else.
I don't think Ba or Cisse are better than Hernandez and I reckon he would start plenty of games for Spurs and Chelsea(second choice to Torres). City and United are leagues ahead of the others when it comes to striker options.
Hernandez is probably a luxury some of the lower teams couldn't afford to use, since they don't have as much of the ball and wont create as many chances.
Odd way of looking at it.
Hernandez overall play as a striker is better than most of the strikers the lower PL sides have. He has good work rate, excellent movement, physically strong and is very good in the air. Add his natural finishing ability and he would start week in week out for all of them and his goals would invaluable to them. Hardly a luxury he would be essential for them. He's simply way to good for them.
Can't understand this logic. Do you not remember him and Rooney together in the 10/11 run in?
He had a poor season last year but he's an excellent goalscorer and many PL clubs would love to have him in their first team.
I don't think he's as good a player as some do, if he was we wouldn't have forked out on a new striker. Last season was poor, pre season was poor and I just feel he's quite limited. Lots of strikers in the league are better options than Hernandez for example, Bent, Jelavic, Ba, Cisse, Djibril Cisse, Podolski, Odemwingie, Agbonlahor. All of these players have much more to their game than Hernandez and they score goals too. He would struggle in a lower side, even struggles for us when we play in tight games and lacks the spark to create something out of nothing.
I'm inclined to agree with you sometimes, but then again sometimes when players play for us we don't realise how good they are in comparison to other teams.
For example, a much maligned player for us like Darron Gibson walks straight into an everton team and greatly improves them; i think we underrate our fringe players sometimes simply because of our high expectations. Others that never make it anywhere near our first team like shawcross, mcshane, richardson, all start for other prem teams and forged decent careers as well - sometimes you really only see the best of a player when they get prolonged chances to play.
We would have always forked out if RVP was available. Chances to sign wordclass players for affordable fees rarely come up and Fergie would always bite. Also four good strikers are a must for a team like us who fight on all the fronts. Not to mention the advantage of having Chicharito who is very effective as a sub and has superb attitude to boot.
Bent, Ba and Cisse are better than him and marginally so only. Podolski, Odemwinge, Djibril Cisse and Adebayor are not clinical enough or quite unprofessional in case of the later two atleast. Also the point here essentially is putting the ball in the back of the net which chicharito does on club as well as international level.
He is a striker who can head the ball from corners and crosses, he can feed on scraps and generally make a chance out for himself from his amazing movement. Not to mention that he needs only one chance to take care of the business. This makes him the ideal striker for teams below us.
As for doing something extra ordinary, check the stoke goals(the backheel and the header), backheel in the gold cup, goal against Valencia.
Another quality he possesses is his record against big teams, he has scored against the big guns more often than not.
Funny why many are saying Hernandez would struggle in a lower side. He seems to do extremely fine and scoring goals with Mexico, and they aren't really good as compared to a United team i would say. You would think he's Chamakh by the looks of it
Hernandez is a very likeable guy, but that doesn't make him a great player. As much of a pain in the arse Adebayor has been for his previous clubs he is a much better player than Hernandez will probably ever be. You can be a good goalscorer without being a good all round player. Look at Mario Gomez
His amazing movement wasn't there to be seen so often last year, so who knows what is going to become of him now. His first season he was unknown to the league and defenders struggled with his runs but last year he was constantly caught offside and his touch and awareness would constantly let him down that it would stop every attack he was involved in. I like the guy, but all I can ever see him being for us is a supersub, who can save our arses a few times but lacks the quality to start games.
Mexico are quite decent, and have plenty of creativity in the side. His record is great for them, but so was Borgetti's.
Hernandez would be as useful as the proverbial tits on a bull for half the teams in the division, because they play 4-5-1.
A striker in that system needs to be able to hold the ball up, provide an outlet to relieve the defence and also be able to take defenders on by himself. Not something lil Pea can do.
He'd only really work in teams that dominate the ball and create chances for him. Like us.
If he went to Arsenal he would be a goal machine. They could stick him up playing off Giroud and let the creativity of Carzola et al play through the channels.
Still think his best role for us is off the bench.
A striker in that system needs to be able to hold the ball up, provide an outlet to relieve the defence and also be able to take defenders on by himself. Not something lil Pea can do.
He'd only really work in teams that dominate the ball and create chances for him. Like us.
If he went to Arsenal he would be a goal machine. They could stick him up playing off Giroud and let the creativity of Carzola et al play through the channels.
Still think his best role for us is off the bench.
He is not a great football player but he is a great goal scorer. I think the last statement of the paragraph above is incorrect as I would put Hernandez in the same bracket, playing style-wise, with Mario Gomez.
What would be the benefit of having Adebayor if he puts in the effort for about 10 games a season and then fannies around for the remainder. Also Adebayor is a better football but a much more inferior player to Chicharito when it comes to finishing. Adebayor can score a great goal every once in a while but when you feed the ball in the box all game long Chicharito is the man you want on the end of those crosses/passes.
Its unfair to only judge based on certain period of time and not to mention the lack of rest, pre-season and injuries suffered by him. I don't think any one denies that last season was not one of his best but still ended up with 12 goals.
His touch is also totally form dependent and fluctuates from being zidane like to being that of a rapist. He definitely needs to improve on that but I am sure that will come and will make him an even deadlier striker.
Super sub for us though. For majority of the league, who don't possess the attack we do, he would be mostly in the starting line up.
It's a shame ravelston hasn't been back in. He's awesome.
They clearly would.
I dont think its true. look at Darren Bent. His goals kept plenty of time afloat. Prolific strikers are hard to come by these days.
Hernandez is class, he is a lethal goalscorer and that's a rare player to have. I'd take him over Welbeck any day of the week.
I just wanna mate the pair of them and create a hybrid of them. The goal scoring prowess of Hernandez and the physique balance and natural ability of Welbeck. Deeeeelisch man
Fully trust Chicharito to do a job for us whenever he is played.
Agbonlahor is a joke, right? You're going way too far in the other extreme. He's a very good player that got overhyped when he started scoring so many. He has his limitations but that doesn't mean he isn't very effective - he's just in a rut of form that's been extended due to lack of appearances.
I heard Wigan come to us as favourites. Any truth in this?
Lots of chat about Chico but has it even been confirmed that RVP is out for Saturday?
I hope RVP plays, or we may be relying on our wingers to produce the magic, or Kagawa but he's doubtful too right?
No chance. We'll smash them!
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