2 weeks then...
Robin van Persie | 2012-14 Performances
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Oh god.
As long as it's not the Gary Neville 2 weeks! On a more serious note though, I'm sure he'll play vs Wigan.
Ah ffs 
are we cursed in this department.
are we cursed in this department.Don't take my Robin away
I honestly thought if he started against Wigan, that he would at least get a goal.
I honestly thought if he started against Wigan, that he would at least get a goal.
needs to retire from international football.
lets hope SAF advise any players over 28 they need to retire from international football
has evans re damaged his ankle ?
everyone called it and now the Arsenal fans are pissing themselves laughing.
I'm also pissing myselfs laughing, that Van Persie would probably score more goals with one leg than Giroud.
Let's just wait and see tw, I was watching the game and he took some tough tackles ( got a knee to the quad which he seemed to favour) so might be a dead leg or truely a case of precaution ( he did finish the half looking fine)
We knew his injury problems going into the transfer. That's why we have Hernandez
This wasn't anything we didn't expect.
You'd think some are enjoying this with all their "I told you so"
He's not actually injured is he? According to van Gaal?
FFS, the crock better be ready for the weekend!
The highlighted part seems to indicate that there is an injury of some sort but they took him off to avoid making it worse.
Rooney, Kagawa and RvP are all potentially out. Probably our 3 best players (Dunno about kagawa being better than Nani/Valencia) but defo the other 2 I guess, for the Wigan (and even Galatasaray matches.
Not good.
Not good.
Apart from Rooney, if the others are only knocks them we will be OK, we should be able to beat Wigan at home.
Both of those are home matches and we've still got the likes of Welbeck, Hernandez, Nani and Valencia to use in attacking areas.
We'll be fine.
Hope they're back for the Liverpool game though...
We could have Xavi, Iniesta and Messi for Anfield and still probably not win. Game raisers
If we are missing our best players, the probability we'll win decreases.
If we have to replace both of our top 5 in the world strikers with the likes of Welbeck and Hernandez, then it decreases massively. Neither of the 2 exactly have the characteristics to play in the hole, nor can they distribute the ball well to the wingers, so our wingers will be even more reliant on the midfield to do well and get the ball to them.
We'll be going old school 442, against a Wigan side that finished last season superbly, and we didn't qualify in a CL group approximately the same difficulty as this one; the fact it's a home match makes it even more critical we win.
I'd say the probability that we'd lose if we had RvP-Valencia-Kagawa *** is half the probability without both RvP (and not having kagawa / rooney) if all else is the same.
Over a season, the probabilities even out, so we want as little injuries as possible where we'll lose massive quality - Same for playing Carrick / Valencia at Right Back.
^ I think you're being more than just a tad pessimistic. This is why we have a squad at the end of the day. Hernandez and Welbeck are more than good enough against Wigan.
Jesus, we've got a certain pessimistic sod on every thread it seems.
I'd quite like to see Hernandez given a start, or Welbeck actually get played as a striker. Hernandez has shown some drive when he's come on as a sub, and Welbeck was excellent last night as well.
I'd quite like to see Hernandez given a start, or Welbeck actually get played as a striker. Hernandez has shown some drive when he's come on as a sub, and Welbeck was excellent last night as well.
Hernandez scored last night too and given the ridiculously high line Wigan usually take I too think it could be the ideal game for him.
My only worry would be all the travelling he'll be doing though.
That's well and dandy, and I love the fact Man Utd have such a massive squad, with great depth, but many here use that as an excuse as to why we didn't win last year - We had to play 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th choices for some positions, for a lot of the season. If you have to consistently use players that you generally wouldn't associate with your first XI (No, we don't have a fixed XI) far more than another team (City, who kept the same team sheet going). I know SAF never uses the same players in consecutive matches, but I sincerely doubt he'd be using lads like Rafael at CM too much if he could - It lowers the chance we'll win if that happens
All I'm trying to say is that, from a mathematical POV, we're going to be worse off playing with players that are far worse than the 2 best players in our team, if we have to. I don't think that's pessimistic at all, I think that's the first time anyones associated that with me, actually!
Look at our current season - all of our matches have been started either without RvP, or Rooney. 1 with Nani, 1 with a RW playing RB, and have included a ST playing LW, and mostly Carrick @ CB. It's not helped us win, I assure you.. mathematically we're coming out less likely to win, than when we played everyone where they ought to, and only have to rely on 1st and 2nd choices for positions.
Fact that he played Tuesday instead of Wednesday will help. Also players like Chicharito and Kagawa are used to travelling and I'm sure they are fine (injuries notwithstanding) with playing at weekends after a midweek international.
I imagine most of the time, it is Fergie who deems them as being less than 100% for a match, but they won't be lacking fitness.
Chicharito will be screaming to start against Wigan on Saturday, and if RVP and Kagawa are both injured, then he and Welback should both play. Just concerned about the formation because Wigan have stifled United in midfield in recent times, though less so at OT.
I see pessimists are getting their excuses in early.
Without disrespecting the opponents a game at Old Trafford against Wigan should be standard 3 points even with half the team out. If they don't manage a win United should have no excuses.
Without disrespecting the opponents a game at Old Trafford against Wigan should be standard 3 points even with half the team out. If they don't manage a win United should have no excuses.
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Obviously you'd like to have all your players fit through all of the season to play your strongest team but we're not talking about Rafael in midfield here. We're talking about Welbeck and/or Hernandez up front.
Fergie likes to rotate even if everyone's fit anyway. Especially after internationals and especially at home.
Even if Van Persie and Kagawa hadn't picked up any niggles I suspect they'd have been rested at the weekened with Galatasaray and Liverpool coming up anyway.
Not overly worried. Wigan at home and we've got Hernandez, Welbeck, Nani and Valencia to provide a bit of a goal threat.
Slightly more concerned about the Galatasaray match, but these two may well be back by then. Kagawa was on the bench apparently, just didn't risk actually playing, so there may even be a slim chance he'll be alright for Saturday.
It's a shame, but up front is where most of our resources are at the moment, so now is the time for us to draw on that strength and for players like Hernandez to stake their claim.
Slightly more concerned about the Galatasaray match, but these two may well be back by then. Kagawa was on the bench apparently, just didn't risk actually playing, so there may even be a slim chance he'll be alright for Saturday.
It's a shame, but up front is where most of our resources are at the moment, so now is the time for us to draw on that strength and for players like Hernandez to stake their claim.
Media are overblowing this.We still have enough about us up front to get a result against Wigan.
Meh, my only worry is whether Welbeck and Hernandez can form a good partnership.
But if Nani and Valencia (hopefully) both play, and we have a rested Paul Scholes, we should have too much for them, so I'm not worried.
But if Nani and Valencia (hopefully) both play, and we have a rested Paul Scholes, we should have too much for them, so I'm not worried.
Is Van Persie definitely out? Heading over for this on Saturday and it would nice to see him play.
He would've been rested against Wigan anyway, in readiness for the midweek game and the big one against Liverpool.
Nah. Apparenly it was just precaution. That being said though it's still a thigh muscle injury. I'd be very surprised if he started against Wigan.
Spot on.
It's also pretty fecking obvious too, like the very basics of common sense. You are the master of making a point that doesn't need to be made, in the longest way possible.
Lucky our next match is Wigan at home. If RvP has picked up a knock, then don't risk him IMO.
After Wigan, we have Galatasary and Liverpool. I'd rather he is fit for those two matches. We should be okay with Chicharito and Welbeck up front, and also with Nani and Valencia on the wings.
After Wigan, we have Galatasary and Liverpool. I'd rather he is fit for those two matches. We should be okay with Chicharito and Welbeck up front, and also with Nani and Valencia on the wings.
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