Robin van Persie | 2012-14 Performances

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Cina said:
And what does that tell you? You just presume that it includes addons or something? If you look at the equivalent Modric articles they mention the addons, so why don't these.

You've only given one source :lol:

Like I said, BBC said 22.5m up front, you don't trust your national broadcaster?

Your username is so apt sometimes.
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I didn't say I was "right" on this, I personally couldn't give a feck, I'd have paid 30m for him.

I just said, a good few in the know reckon the 22-24 includes add-ons. Which is well, the truth. :confused:

Only one person here is SURE that he is right, and that's you Cina. The whole debate started with you trying to shoot someone down who claimed the 15m plus add-ons.
 
I'm always right said:
I didn't say I was "right" on this, I personally couldn't give a feck, I'd have paid 30m for him.

I just said, a good few in the know reckon the 22-24 includes add-ons. Which is well, the truth. :confused:
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Because an ITK says that it's suddenly the truth? Are you serious here?

The original poster said £15m by the way, he didn't even mention addons in that post.

EDIT: Actually, he did mention them to be fair.
 
bergen said:
How much have we spent since we sold Ronaldo?
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All transfers considered I'd think our net spend since Ronaldo'a departure, including Ronaldo money obviously, would now be around zero. Aside from Ronaldo we've received around £30m for other departing players during that time including £9m for Tosic and £4.5m for Foster, £3.5m for Campbell, supposedly over £2m for Park as well. We spent £20m straightaway, £20m next year, £50m the following year and £35m now.
 
Cina said:
Because an ITK says that it's suddenly the truth? Are you serious here?
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Are you braindead Cina?

A good few reckon it's 15m with add ons, and that is the truth.

The truth is the fact that a good few "think" that. I haven't a fecking clue what the actual fee is.

Cina said:
The original poster said £15m by the way, he didn't even mention addons in that post.
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Bullshit....

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And that's why I said, "read his post" again.

So maybe you should swap names with me? :lol:
 
I did edit my post above, to be fair now, and that was before your post.

I don't get why you're arguing this, to be honest. If you haven't a clue what the fee is, and don't give a shit, then what the feck is your concern, what has this to do with you, why are you arguing that the fee is 15m?

Far more newspapers and news sites say the fee is 22m-24m than 15m + addons, I don't give a shit about Twitter ITKs
 
FCBarca said:
The big difference, for me, would be that City doesn't have a true CF in that 4 you mention whereas United have 2...Rooney doesn't have to play there but he's not a wide player anymore either...Nani can interchange and move to either flank...I think that will probably be the best experiment but still leaves Young out

IF, and it's a big if, SAF can get Rooney to accept playing wide then perhaps they can maximize the potential...but I don't think it's ideal...Kagawa's strength as a SS is that he can release anyone in that attacking trident - especially the wide players (Presumably Young & Nani) and RVP is the perfect foil for that sort of attack at CF...In any event, it gives SAF a lot of options to consider but will everyone buy into it let alone be happy...I always got the impression that Rooney wasn't up for playing 2nd fiddle after CR left
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By CF you mean main striker, right?

Rooney is less of a striker than Aguero and more of a number 10 than Tevez. RVP has had his best season (injury free) as a striker but he also looked very comfortable behind the striker previously. I'd also say Rooney and RVP are more intelligent footballers than Tevez and Aguero.

Leaving Young out is fine, he's not as good as the other players.
 
Cina said:
I don't get why you're arguing this, to be honest. If you haven't a clue what the fee is, and don't give a shit, then what the feck is your concern, what has this to do with you, why are you arguing that the fee is 15m?
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Stop being a clown Cina. I simply told you to re-read his post, it seems you finally listened and realised your mistake, could've saved you and me a lot of time had you just listened to begin with.
 
So we spent £50m on Berba over 4 years - transfer plus wages and we are going to spend £64m over 4 for RVP and SAF says there is no value in the market.
 
I'm always right said:
Stop being a clown Cina. I simply told you to re-read his post, it seems you finally listened and realised your mistake, could've saved you and me a lot of time had you just listened to begin with.
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No you didn't, you posted an article when I asked for a source off Kanie, getting involved in something that had nothing to do with you. I realized my mistake as soon as I made that post and promptly edited it, admitting it, is there anything wrong with that? Or do you want to keep calling me a clown and braindead for doing so?

A question, if you don't actually know the fee and don't care, why post an article about how much it was?
 
--------De Gea-------
Rafael---Vidic---Smalling---Evra
----------Carrick--------------
--------Rooney--Kagawa-----
Valencia--------------------Nani
--------------RVP--------------


Cocks out lads.
 
kps88 said:
It'll give Rooney a real kick in the backside. He's no longer got that guarantee of being our best player. He's got competition in the form of someone who out performed him last season and his place isn't as nailed down as it was these last few seasons.

Think it'll inspire him to do better and raise his game. Would be great for him.
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Agreed. For me this is a really key benefit to this signing.

Rooney loves playing football and I would never doubt his work ethic or will to win over the last few years. It must be hard to really push yourself to your absolute maximum, though, when you know the manager will always pick you, irrespective of form or niggling injuries.

If Van Persie does nothing else other than inspire Rooney to be the very best that he can be, then the signing will be a master-stroke IMO.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Agreed. For me this is a really key benefit to this signing.

Rooney loves playing football and I would never doubt his work ethic or will to win over the last few years. It must be hard to really push yourself to your absolute maximum, though, when you know the manager will always pick you, irrespective of form or niggling injuries.

If Van Persie does nothing else other than inspire Rooney to be the very best that he can be, then the signing will be a master-stroke IMO.
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Also quite funny that Rooney originally wanted to leave because he felt that the club weren't buying players in order to progress, and now we've splashed out on one of the worlds best strikers who could in theory, displace him from the team.
 
When the season is underway and we're playing on a Sunday, followed by a Tuesday League Cup match and a Saturday 12:15 we'll be pleased we've got these options.
 
We can rest Rooney now. Which is amazing if you think about it. We really do have a mouth watering attack... :drool:

Our games could be exciting as feck this season, great defence when fit, creative midfield with no bite, a world class front line.
 
Cina said:
Also quite funny that Rooney originally wanted to leave because he felt that the club weren't buying players in order to progress, and now we've splashed out on one of the worlds best strikers who could in theory, displace him from the team.
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Thing is, Rooney's good enough to play in any team, for me; unless he's badly out of form or injured, he'll probably find some place to fit into the team; he's too good to have sitting on the bench more than a couple of times a season.
Even for Barcelona and Real Madrid.

I understand that you said in theory; and you are right in theory, but I'm just voicing my view that it'll likely to remain 'in theory' rather than becoming an actuality.

It's great though, isn't it? Rooney not being good enough to start in theory.
Incredibly excited.

My Scouser Bio teacher was telling me today about how it's a crazy amount of money, but we're fortunate to be able to be buying 'the best quality players.'

:drool:
 
Cina said:
I rate Young, he's just not as good as Rooney, RVP, Nani, Valencia or Kagawa. Simple Maths suggests that there is less space for him in the team because of it.
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disagree. he's the only left winger we have in my opnion.
 
Didn't want this signing to happen, but now it has its difficult not to feel some excitement about the attacking potential that we have in the squad now. The options we have in terms of personnel, as well as tactically, are breathtaking. Our squad is outstanding.

Also, people talking about a change in our 'stance' on transfers are off the mark IMO. This is a unique situation that we have decided to act upon. You don't often get the chance to strengthen your own squad while severly depleting a rivals. It was too good to pass up. I doubt we'll see another player over 26 arriving anytime soon.
 
Rooney will still be the first name on the team sheet by the way. He is a better player IMO.
 
RVP's fully established in Premiership. He should have no bigger problems in fitting to any United's tactics.

He played against his new club so many times, that he knows United more than some of us may think.
 
I still can't believe we actually have him. What a coup considering it was from dealing with a bitter rival. Our corners will be tidy next season :drool: I honestly can not wait to see RVP-Rooney-Kagawa-Nani playing witheachother.
 
ben_foster said:
disagree. he's the only left winger we have in my opnion.
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He has no left foot. He's not a left winger at all. Just because starts there doesn't mean he is a left winger. Nani is better from the left and has reasonably delivery from his weaker side, much better than Young. I think Young delivers more consistently with his right foot after cutting inside, he's also better off the ball defensively. IMO of course.
 
People who are excited about our corners are forgetting the main reason why our corners have been crap: We only have Vidic who is any danger at all in the area. That's why we've tried those crap short flick-on corners.

I doubt van Persie taking our corners is going to change much in that respect.
 
Top said:
People who are excited about our corners are forgetting the main reason why our corners have been crap: We only have Vidic who is any danger at all in the area. That's why we've tried those crap short flick-on corners.

I doubt van Persie taking our corners is going to change much in that respect.
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That's a fair point but the delivery has been generally shite anyway. If someone takes a really excellent corner, you don't need a load of giants in the box to cause havoc. Italy's goal last night being a good example.
 
We now have four strikers that can potentially score 30 goals a season. Well, i am slightly exaggerating but we have a potent strike force for the new season.
 
Forget about the corners...it's the freekicks i'm looking forward to. Finally someone who whips the ball in with a bit of pace and fizz instead of those soft, delicate curly shots which half the time end up going straight into row Z...or the stomach of someone in the wall.

Ronaldo may not have scored with every shot he took during his time with us, but by God he gave that ball a mighty wallop when he took the freekicks. I've had enough of that coy shit with our corners and freekicks. Hit the ball with some purpose and maybe we'll start converting more of the 10-15 corners and freekicks a game that we get.
 
It's Wayne and Robin.

All we need to do is add Kagawa in the background with a Kato mask and we've got the fearsome threesome. POWWWW!!!!!!!!
 
Alex Ferguson says RVP on way for medical. Agent in talks with CEO David Gill right now. RVP should be available for Monday, Ferguson says
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From the Bwin's press conference.
 
Fergie says medical is today, deal should be completed and he'll be available for Monday!
 
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