If we're stuck put Chico in goal. Reading this thread he may need to add a few strings to his bow!!
Robin van Persie | 2012-14 Performances
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You are right, Berbs will remains my favourite player.
Funnily enough I'm one of Berba's biggest fans on here, I bloody love him as a player, and calling him a flop was harsh, but he clearly hasn't worked out. I'd still much rather we'd kept him than signed this cnut from Arsenal, mind.
I think people's concern comes form the fact that a lot of us think that Welbeck has the potential to be as good as those players, so it's imperative he is give the chance to develop.
As I've said though, I don't see this as a problem, if he can't learn from playing with RVP and Rooney, who can he learn from?
Thanks Gary!!
Not sure thats even close myself.
Can't see Giggs starting, cant see kagawa on the left either, he'll play behind the strikers as attacking mid.
Not sure VP will start the game either, big signing, big TV audience, lack of match fitness, both football and marketing impact wise, 60th minute substitution to bring him on makes the most sense.
There's also the Torres factor to consider. So we'd better make sure he scores in his first game...
The main issue for me is that we have a QPR player on the bench. Is that allowed?
feck marketing.. I'd throw the full weaponry at Everton, but I don't think I'd start with Scholes in a two man midfield.
Sir Alex is more Manchester United for me than Danny Welbeck. And he'll take decisions for the good of the club rather than one individual. He'd rather make all the locals (who support United) from Manchester happy than just one and his family.
I'm sure we'll all be delighted when/if Welbeck becomes a top player but to think that we should just give him an easy ride to the road to becoming first choice is silly. The club will always be bigger than individuals.
I'm expecting:
-------------Scholes--------------
---------Carrick--Scholes----------
--Valencia-------------------Nani--
----------Young-Kagawa----------
-------Rooney-----Welbeck--------
--------Hernandez---RvP-----------
Exactly. Besides, he can be behind Rooney and Van Persie in our pecking order of strikers this season. Isn't that fantastic for a 21 year old? I don't see how he's getting a raw deal.
Theres on just above this reply, anything the daily fail prints isnt worth reading.
Im really not sure about this transfer. RVP's injury record and his age is a real put off. Then there's the price tage which seems wildly inflated for a player in the final year of his contract.
No one can doubt RVP's ability and if he can stay injury free then his direct style will suit United to a tee. Just don't get your hopes up.
No one can doubt RVP's ability and if he can stay injury free then his direct style will suit United to a tee. Just don't get your hopes up.
Yeah, I don't see the Welbeck thing as an issue at all here, being 3rd choice striker at a club that plays up to 60 games a season is hardly a bad thing, especially at his age.
My problem is Shinji, I want him playing behind the striker, which won't happen a lot now. He'll be shoved out to the left I reckon, and used in the middle sometimes too
Right, but his source is one I quoted, which says 22m, there's no mention of addons. Not exactly solid now, is it?
Ignoring the daily mail, I've given a lot of sources, all of which say 22m-24m, and the most reputable of which says 22.5m, rising to 24m. There's absolutely no mention of your 15m anywhere.
Find me some solid sources that say 15m and then we can talk, until then, don't talk shit.
This is an amazing signing for us and to be honest, I think the new 4 rival the 4 strikers we had in 99, not directly player-for-player of course. But Rooney and RVP might even strike up a better partnership than the sexy (because I couldn't think of a better word to describe the football they played) partnership of Yorke & Cole.
Torres had been poor for a good 18 months before his move.
Ah, you spotted the deliberate mistake!
I really can't see anybody else playing centre-back, so we're just going to have to abandon this negativity and take a more attacking approach:
-------------Scholes--------------
-------------Carrick---------------
--Valencia------------------Giggs--
----Young---Kagawa---Nani--------
-------Rooney-----Welbeck--------
--------Hernandez---RvP-----------
This match at Everton looks like another 4-4 with all the attacking players we have available.
If Rooney and Van Persie are both on form at the same time, they'll be unstoppable. Both are sometime prone to injuries and scoring in streaks, although if one of them are on form we will always stand a great chance of beating anyone. But the two of them on form together is just
If Rooney and Van Persie are both on form at the same time, they'll be unstoppable. Both are sometime prone to injuries and scoring in streaks, although if one of them are on form we will always stand a great chance of beating anyone. But the two of them on form together is just
Was Van Persie SAFs 'Bonus' or 25 year commemorative gift?
Seriously? Because he's a full one or two years older than them? It's not as though we don't have two very obvious examples in our squad of how much longer players can perform nowadays then they did in the past.
Anyway, the overriding point here is that Fergie's decision to sign Van Persie is not unprecedented and he's always been willing to sign established stars in their late 20s if he thinks they can make a difference.
I'm a big fan of Welbeck myself and I do think it's shame he probably won't get as many games as I'd hoped next season but I'm certainly not going to question Fergie's decision on this just because a player I have a soft spot for has a bit more competition for his place. If Welbeck turns out as good as I hope he can then he will be part of our first XI sooner than many would think. He's still a good few years younger than most of the great United strikers I can remember. He'll still only be 25 years old by the time Van Persie's been at the club as long as Eric Cantona was. Meanwhile, he's still play a lot of football and continue to develop and improve by training and playing alongside two of the best strikers on the planet. Which is all good by me.
Are people seriously arguing over the transfer fee?
Think scouse everyone.
Van Persie + Kagawa for less than £40 million, that's some damn good value
Van Persie + Kagawa for less than £40 million, that's some damn good value
in today's market and lunacy......you're not kidding!!
The amount we paid for Kagawa and RVP together is what Liverpool paid for Caroll.
It would be again excellent if you could go past the headlines and read the stuff underneath.
DailyMail
Telegraph
Guardian
BBC
I still can't get my head around the fact we have signed him.
Seeing him in a United shirt, giving United interviews ect is going to be so strange.
Seeing him in a United shirt, giving United interviews ect is going to be so strange.
The only exciting thing about that lineup is that Park seems to be back on the bench
Just consider we signed Van Persie and Kagawa (Combined 54 goals + 25 assists last season), for £5 million more than Andy Carroll was sold the season before.
In a way you're correct. Park has indeed left the club.
Yup, that's great business it has to be said.
It's an unusual signing but so was Veron when we had Keane and Scholes in midfield. The fact is this deal is 'unique' because of a few factors. The first is Arsenal are a Rival and so you don't see these sort of deals much anyway. The second is he wanted to a) stay in England and b) come to us ......The third is simply, Sir Alex wanted him.
That's why it's a unique deal. It's not a change of stance by the club.
Yeah, but have either of them ever been the victims of an arson attack?
There's a joke in there about Wenger but I'm too good to bother with an open goal like that.
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