His only good game after the return was when he played with Mata, and his few good ones at the start of season were with Welbeck. Coincidence?
Robin van Persie | 2012-14 Performances
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It would be nice of someone would confirm those words.
Saying that, I am not surprised at all. No way player of his quality can be this poor.
Saying that, I am not surprised at all. No way player of his quality can be this poor.
Would've been fantastic if some Dutch red could translate the whole of it ( yes, I've seen newb's post on the previous page ).
If he and Rooney aren't really getting on, surely DM would be aware of this yet they play together all the time when both fit.
I don't buy it, I think RVP just doesn't buy into DM and having a dig at the tactics. Rooney was playing far to deep tonight to be getting in his space.
I don't buy it, I think RVP just doesn't buy into DM and having a dig at the tactics. Rooney was playing far to deep tonight to be getting in his space.
van Persie is the type of centre forward that gets involved in the play, he's not a forward who is out to only convert opportunities given to him as if he is a poacher. He had a couple of good scenes with hold-up play, yet it completely disappeared in the second half. It didn't look like he was even actively attempting to go for the ball, rather waiting for service.
You can't even use the excuse that the team was starved of the ball - Rooney dropped deep to collect the ball, and van Persie has certainly done that before in his United and Arsenal career, but he didn't do it at all. It was a completely uninspired performance from him, capped off by a woeful miss late on.
It could very well be the case. Moyes handed Rooney everything on a silverplate, something that surely didn't happen under SAF. I think he is having a go at Moyes all in all.
You do realize that Neanderthals were as smart as, and had much more developed brains than humans?
Agree with everything else though.
It is strange how uninvolved he is with our general play. He's a player who's more than capable on the ball. He even spent a few seasons at Arsenal playing as a number 10.
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Credit to Reyzuz ( Dutch newbie red), it's the exact translation from the 1:30 part of that video.
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Lineker confirms.
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I'm sorry, but for a player we are paying £200k a week, he has missed one too many chances this season. We have slated many players for far less.
Clearly speaking out against the tactics. Not surprised.
It's hard to argue against the idea that Moyes has lost the dressing room. Probably lost it a long time ago.
It's hard to argue against the idea that Moyes has lost the dressing room. Probably lost it a long time ago.
Seriously Moyes had all the backing in the world, but if I have to decide between keeping RvP or sack Moyes it's quite an easy decision.
Go on Robin. The more players that turn on him publicly the better to be honest. It's pretty obvious that absolutely nobody, other then Young and Valencia probably, like having Moyes at the helm.
I'd say this for pretty much every player in the squad to be honest.
Do you think RVP didn't drop back like Rooney because: A) he's been told not to or B) he just can't be arsed to win the champions league?
I'll give you a clue. In his first ever away game in the CL for us, last season, he made 47 passes.
Most interesting bit of that to me wasn't the part you had in bold. Most interesting bit was where Van Persie says he knows who to blame but wont say cos he aint like that.
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And so it begins..
Moyes won't last long now. Matter of time before the players started to speak out.
Moyes won't last long now. Matter of time before the players started to speak out.
He's off this summer
I hope Moyes wins that competition. Get him out before he causes more damage, like big departures.
Unless we have a new manager by then.
That's the only way.
So you back an incompetent manager over a player who is one of our best?
RvP will go this summer unless we replace Moyes.
Interesting. I wonder what or who could he have been talking about?
Any one of the wingers or Rooney I'd imagine. Most probably Rooney, they do bunch up often.
FFS. What the fluck is going on, RVP has a fantastic attitude yet he's coming out with that.
What is RVP on about? He's absolutely isolated upfront, have the whole final third to himself to stroll about. Is he on mushrooms?
Three hundred thousand guesses as to who he's talking about there?
I would like to speak against player giving comments that undermine the team or manager. In this case, its hard to fault him tbf.
Exactly.
I'm pretty sure RVP came to a professional conclusion that moyes wasn't good enough probably sometime around august of last year when utd were playing friendlies in asia....he just hasn't looked interested this season and to be honest I don't blame him
This is the beginning of the end for Moyes.
Top scorer despite missing half the season and with little to no service. Van Persie deserves no slating.
No, he does a little. He isn't god.
Rooney is pushed too far forward and is too interested in getting it wide so he can run into the box and get onto the end of crosses. Rooney also very rarely runs in behind Van Persie when Van Persie drops deep which simply compresses the space. Besides Januzaj and Mata, we also seem to lack the attacking midfield players who will make central runs when Van Persie chooses to run the channels. When Robin drifts wide there is often very little attempt to make runs inside of him so he can pick players out. Instead the likes of Valencia literally stand there waiting as if they haven't got a clue what to do.
All in all there isn't enough movement and variation in the side to bring the best out of Robin Van Persie. This has to be as a result of the managerial change because last season there was more than enough. Moyes' flat 4-4-2 with wingers bolted to the touchline just does not offer Van Persie what he needs to play his best football. We know RVP is unhappy, Van Gaal has said it, it will only get worse from here. Van Persie did not sign for United to play in the Europa League and fight for sixth place.
It's obvious that RVP does not respect Moyes and does not like the coaches. He wants out and hes doing his best to get a move in the summer.
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