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Robin van Persie | 2012-14 Performances
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Has there been any indication as to when he might actually be fit?
Oh don't be so precious.
I wasn't using it as exclusive evidence, was I? As I say, he may well be very happy, but I think there's a lot of wishful thinking going on.
It's not a wind up every time someone diverges from the party line. Let's not turn into RAWK here.
I wasn't using it as exclusive evidence, was I? As I say, he may well be very happy, but I think there's a lot of wishful thinking going on.
It's not a wind up every time someone diverges from the party line. Let's not turn into RAWK here.
That's why I said as 'part of'.
I have no idea about what Ferguson promised van Persie regarding his future as manager, or about Moyes' training methods and how much that had an impact on his injuries. The 'arguing in training point' can be challenged though.
If he is unhappy, then he needs to grow a pair of balls and man the feck up!!
Senior and very influential player at a top club like United, Christ...He should be licking the arse of the Holy Trinity statue!
Senior and very influential player at a top club like United, Christ...He should be licking the arse of the Holy Trinity statue!
Carrick must really hate him, the evidence is plain to see. Carrick didn't get injured for years under Fergie and then suddenly under Moyes, he has a long lay-off.
I stubbed my toe this morning. Moyes you bastard.
Whilst I believe the new regime affected van Persie's fitness I also can't believe how the press are going out of their way to write these stories. Sure van Persie might not be as happy this season as he was when he first joined but he doesn't seem the type to walk away that quickly. He only took 8 years to leave Arsenal..
To be fair, between the injuries he was hardly an attractive player for clubs.
Always one of my top players to watch when he was fit and on form. I wasn't particularly serious anyway...I'm just pretty sure he won't be leaving any time soon.
Look at his passing charts for individual game, there isn't that much of a difference. My point is that the role hasn't made that much of a difference because he's only averaging five less passes than last season's total. What's also to remember is that he came on against West Brom at home and made six passes. That total would be more had he started, and if it had been, say, 26, he would only be two/three passes off last season's total. When you move as a classic #9, chances created are reduced, and that's been evident, but the difference this season is that we have Rooney at his best. It's not a case of Van Persie, who is a striker, being used incorrectly - I don't buy into that at all. It's where he played for in one of his few great season in professional football, and Arsenal's side didn't have 3-4 technically excellent playmakers, I disagree with that. It's a case of Moyes trying out different systems. The way he's used Welbeck is the way I expect Van Persie to be used when he comes back, though I don't expect many runs in behind from him.
Just choked on some water laughing at this post. Obviously Moyes' archaic training has damaged my throat.
So whats the deal with him now? Any closer to coming back?
does anybody else see rvp being the one to take a back foot next season? not saying i want him too but hes spent the season injured, not really endeared himself to moyes in anyway or so we're told and is 31 next season:
...............carrick.........vidal(other)
...januzaj...........mata...............kagawa.....
.................... .rooney...................
with welbeck hernandez and a new striker making up the goal numbers.
...............carrick.........vidal(other)
...januzaj...........mata...............kagawa.....
.................... .rooney...................
with welbeck hernandez and a new striker making up the goal numbers.
Don't agree he will take a backstep. I think he will thrive with Mata, Januzaj and Rooney. Even Kagawa if Moyes will open his eyes and realize that Young is not a better option.
RvP will love having a player like Mata in the team. I doubt he'll be phased out, he's still our best finisher by a mile.
Agreed. If Moyes manages to make them all play well together, RvP will have a field day
Rvp scores goals when the service is poor. Imagine if Rooney, Januzaj and Mata click.
Do you remember the kind of balls Mata used to play into Ba last season? Like the one he scored vs us in the cup?Mata's excactly the kind of playmaker who'll spot and find RvP's clever runs into space early. He'll get the best out of RvP for sure.
i hope so, thats what i want to see
Fingers crossed, signing Mata will open the floodgates for him once again. He makes extremely clever runs, and with the right pass can find the spaces. Imagine a player of Mata's calibre threading through the ball from either flank or centre? 
It should be dreamy.
It should be dreamy.Oooh that's dirty.
It seems some have actually forgotten how good a player RvP is. Suggestions that he may find himself marginalised or even on the bench with Mata arriving are ridiculous. Despite his injury issues I firmly believe he is still our best player. He will thrive with Mata's service. Key is keeping him fit, but his age is a non-issue if he's managed correctly. Getting a bit sick with the short memories some of our supporters seem to display ...
Exactly.
And I think he plays better as a lone striker than Rooney. Who tends to get frustrated.
I was thinking the same. Normally players get better in people's eyes when they've been out injured. Getting him fit will be the most important factor in getting us up the table.
With his style of play, 31 is nothing. He's never been reliant on pace.
He's still our best bet as a pure striker. As much as I'd like Kagawa to succeed here, I just dont see him getting too many starts now with Mata here. Its him that'l suffer the most unless Moyes signs a solid CM and reverts to a very fluid front 4 in which case Kagawa will compete with Januzaj for the last spot.
As Anduin said, some really are forgetting how ridiculously good RVP is.
His hold up play is ridiculously good, lest we forget. And it's exactly that part of his game that we're missing right now. Imo, to get the best of all our technically proficient attackers (Mata, Januzaj, Rooney, Kagawa), we absolutely need the superb holdup play of RvP. I'm getting giddy at the thought of some of guys playing together
I've always thought there is more of a chance of RVP leaving than Rooney.
I still think it might be the case.
I still think it might be the case.
Who'l pay his transfer fee and 250k a week at this stage of his career? Specially after he's been injured so much this season.
He'l be here for the next couple of years unless he wants to play in France or Russia etc. If we get Rooney to sign an extension, it'l be the same with him.
Why would think that? He seems to be happy at the club, it's his fitness that seems to be an issue. Once he's fit he will score for fun with Mata on the pitch.
No real reason, just a gut feeling really.
Great post. He's still the best out and out striker in Europe for my money. He's been a big miss, and I fully expect Mata to click with him on his return. I've heard him referred to as "the elephant in the room" on here. If so, he's a pretty awesome elephant at that. Van Persie is our best player and crucial to our success going forward.
He's the main man for me. He doesn't have to take corners now so there's no chance of that injury again.
Just want him fit now (and Rooney), if we go into next season with a front 4 of RVP, Rooney, Mata & Januzaj it'll give us an amazing chance even if we don't sign anyone else (which I have no doubts we will)
Yeah, having both Rooney and Van Persie in the box for corners is a big bonus.
Don't know how to embed a tweet, but he just tweeted 'Welcome Juan Mata see you all tuesday 
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' Are people for real? Phase him out?....He should be the first name on the team sheet once he's fit!
He was at the Sunderland game to be fair, doesn't really mean he is fit.
A few places said Rooney and RVP could have played against Sunderland but Moyes didn't want to risk them, I think both will be back on Tuesday.
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