Robin van Persie | 2012-14 Performances

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Duncan Castles reporting, as have others in the last couple of days, that RVP is considering his options and is looking for another club after his relationship with Moyes has broken down.


Sources please. Is this Goal or Sunday Times? I know Castles writes for all sorts.
 
Sausces please. Is this Goal or Sunday Times? I know Caste writes for all sorts.


I'm sure it's going to be across everything he writes for - he tweeted it. I'm not sure if Twitter rumours are allowed in player threads, so I'm more than happy to take my infraction.
 
Honestly the Gooners are such a pathetic bunch. Remember them getting all excited on twitter when it was reported RVP handed in a transfer request and ultimately it proved to be false.

A report by Duncan Castles and they're again excited now.
 
Honestly the Gooners are such a pathetic bunch. Remember them getting all excited on twitter when it was reported RVP handed in a transfer request and ultimately it proved to be false.

A report by Duncan Castles and they're again excited now.


I'd take an RVP transfer request over the FA Cup.


I wouldn't actually
 
Anyone who reports for Goal.com making pure statements...barely even a 'sources close to the player' has to be full of shit and looking for a few hits on his articles.

But if it was true that van Persie is really looking to leave now, he'll find it very very hard given recent injuries and the length of his contract and the fact United won't be looking to sell a top asset.
 
He certainly didn't look as if he was considering his options when he scored against Arsenal - the last time he was close to full fitness. People are desperate for him to fail at United. 'Imagine how many goals he would score with Ozil behind him'. Bollocks, Arsenal wouldn't have spent £42.5m or whatever it was had they not lost Van Persie. And if it wasn't for Fergie's retirement, his decision would have been well vindicated (as it is anyway for the time being).
 
But you've still not let us know how you'd explain away all your cynicism about his motivation for signing for us, were he to leave money-bags United to try and win more trophies?


This argument would be great if I'd said he left for the money.

The fact I've said the opposite on numerous occasions somewhat ruins it.
 
How exactly has his relationship with Moyes broken down? How would anyone outside the club know about this?

Anyway if he doesn't like it here, he can go. 25m from the team who wants him and we can keep Wayne Rooney who can be the number one man again
 
There seems to be a bit too much smoke for there to be no fire with this.

I certainly wouldn't rule it out. We're always dismissive when it comes to reports over players being unhappy or possibly wanting to leave, but sometimes these things do end up being true. Reading Fergie's new book confirms some things we did not know for sure and others we had no idea of at all.

Van Persie came to United for the trophies, I'm sure of that. But right now we don't know where we're going in terms of success. As a striker, he's certainly not going to be enjoying the football we've been playing.
 
How exactly has his relationship with Moyes broken down? How would anyone outside the club know about this?

Anyway if he doesn't like it here, he can go. 25m from the team who wants him and we can keep Wayne Rooney who can be the number one man again

No-one knows for sure but combine all the talk of Moyes training methods leading to Van Persie getting more frequent injuries, Van Persie being annoyed about Fergie leaving, our crap season so far under Moyes and even pictures of Moyes and Van Persie seemingly arguing and then you have more than enough for people to suggest everything isn't rosy.
 
No-one knows for sure but combine all the talk of Moyes training methods leading to Van Persie getting more frequent injuries, Van Persie being annoyed about Fergie leaving, our crap season so far under Moyes and even pictures of Moyes and Van Persie seemingly arguing and then you have more than enough for people to suggest everything isn't rosy.

Why would Van Persie be annoyed at Fergie leaving, when he was 71 ffs, surely he isn't stupid enough to know that maybe that one season would be his last. Also we can't know for certain whether or not he training IS linked, we aren't at carrington everyday. He was rushed back against Newcastle and like what happened to Kompany he got injured again. There's nothing in these rumours at all, its rubbish. Why leave now. He can get more trophies in the years to come.
 
No-one knows for sure but combine all the talk of Moyes training methods leading to Van Persie getting more frequent injuries, Van Persie being annoyed about Fergie leaving, our crap season so far under Moyes and even pictures of Moyes and Van Persie seemingly arguing and then you have more than enough for people to suggest everything isn't rosy.

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I'd agree with most things, but funny as this photo is, it's hardly evidence of an argument.
 
Why would Van Persie be annoyed at Fergie leaving, when he was 71 ffs, surely he isn't stupid enough to know that maybe that one season would be his last.

I think even Fergie himself mentioned in his book that he apologized because he told some players he intends to stay on in his role. He's been a selling point of ours, no questions about that.
 
We'll see if he still wants to leave after we win the CL this season, because i have a funny feeling we'll go all the way this time
 
I think even Fergie himself mentioned in his book that he apologized because he told some players he intends to stay on in his role. He's been a selling point of ours, no questions about that.

I can see why, but I bet Fergie himself believed up and till the operation he was going to have he was going to continue. At that age you can never be sure of what the future may bring. Its stupid to be annoyed that he left as if he betrayed him. He's an old man!!
 
:lol: Why exactly do people even bother giving any importance to such shit rumours?
 
It sucks that he's injured. Now we have to wait a month for this thread and commentators to point out his body language during matches and how it's indicative of his hatred for Moyes and United.
 
This argument would be great if I'd said he left for the money.

The fact I've said the opposite on numerous occasions somewhat ruins it.

You said he left for 4 year contract, but how would that fit into this story about his transfer request then?
 
I can see why, but I bet Fergie himself believed up and till the operation he was going to have he was going to continue. At that age you can never be sure of what the future may bring. Its stupid to be annoyed that he left as if he betrayed him. He's an old man!!

I can't believe for a moment Fergie would lie or even tell half a lie regarding his decision to retire over the death of his wife's sister. I don't believe the operation had anything to do with it.

I don't think Fergie's retirement would be a major problem if Van Persie is upset, just a little piece in the puzzle. His replacement, his methods and style would surely be more of an issue.
 
I can't believe for a moment Fergie would lie or even tell half a lie regarding his decision to retire over the death of his wife's sister. I don't believe the operation had anything to do with it.

I don't think Fergie's retirement would be a major problem if Van Persie is upset, just a little piece in the puzzle. His replacement, his methods and style would surely be more of an issue.

Wait, I didn't say Fergie was lying, I didn't even know there was a death in the family, where did you get that from?

I don't even think Robin is angry at Moyes and wants to leave, if anything he is frustrated over form and injuries.
 
Wait, I didn't say Fergie was lying, I didn't even know there was a death in the family, where did you get that from?

I don't even think Robin is angry at Moyes and wants to leave, if anything he is frustrated over form and injuries.

Regarding the death of his wife's sister, Fergie first mentioned it after the Swansea game and also several times since, including his book. He said his wife felt more isolated since then and that she deserves more of his time.

As for Van Persie, who knows. Like I said, I'm currently reading Fergie's new book you realise how many things happen that we don't know of - or how many times we dismiss reports that turn out to be true.
 
Regarding the death of his sister's wife, Fergie first mentioned it after the Swansea game and also several times since, including his book. He said his wife felt more isolated since then and that she deserves more of his time.

As for Van Persie, who knows. Like I said, I'm currently reading Fergie's new book you realise how many things happen that we don't know of - or how many times we dismiss reports that turn out to be true.

I was just saying that probably Fergie expected to finish later, but obviously life has unexpected changes and he did what he did in the end. I am saying RVP is not stupid enough to believe he could be with Fergie his entire contract when the gaffer is 71 years old and anything can happen.
 
Regarding the death of his sister's wife, Fergie first mentioned it after the Swansea game and also several times since, including his book. He said his wife felt more isolated since then and that she deserves more of his time.

As for Van Persie, who knows. Like I said, I'm currently reading Fergie's new book you realise how many things happen that we don't know of - or how many times we dismiss reports that turn out to be true.

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Let him go. It's great he brought us a 20th league title, but he was a stop-gap, desperate last card from Fergie. If he's going to be a little b*tch now that SAF is gone and not give his all, let him go. It's not like we've not seen that in his character at Arsenal.

If I were him I'd be annoyed at Ferguson too - I guarantee Fergie will not have told him when signing that he was going to bugger off in a few months. And we all know that's part of the reason RVP joined. If Robin doesn't want to man up and get on with his job as everyone else at the club is doing, that's fine. He can go somewhere else.

We should get great money for him. When Monaco offload Falcao (not dodgy at all) fire him that way, recoup our fee, fix our wage structure and bring a player that is ready for United's future.
 
I was just saying that probably Fergie expected to finish later, but obviously life has unexpected changes and he did what he did in the end. I am saying RVP is not stupid enough to believe he could be with Fergie his entire contract when the gaffer is 71 years old and anything can happen.

I'm sure Fergie didn't think in the summer of 2012 that had be retiring in 2013 and certainly you can't be angry with him for making the decision. Like I said, if there's any problem with RVP, it would play a very small part, with his replacement being the major issue.
 
Rebuilding?

United need to add a couple of quality players. Is that rebuilding?

If it is, are there any teams in England not in need of rebuilding?
We have a completely mess of a squad, don't you know? It's what most of the caftans believe these days.

Last season was fergie's last god-like act where he took a bunch of footballers off the streets to a comfortable league win.
 
If he does want out because he doesn't want to play for Moyes, then it's best for both parties to part ways. Wouldn't have any ill feeling for the player either if it happens.
 
Sources please. Is this Goal or Sunday Times? I know Castles writes for all sorts.
http://www.oneworldsports.com/stories/robin-van-persie-exploring-options-future

I always pay to the journo's track record rather than the medium. He gets a lot of stuff right.

Castles is a terrible journalist.
Is he feck, he knows his shit. He's had the scoop on all the recent AVB stuff over the past month, he was the first to report Nani's new contract etc.

Anyone who reports for Goal.com making pure statements...barely even a 'sources close to the player' has to be full of shit and looking for a few hits on his articles.

But if it was true that van Persie is really looking to leave now, he'll find it very very hard given recent injuries and the length of his contract and the fact United won't be looking to sell a top asset.
He's also writes for the Sunday Times - this story could easily have been in there which would have made it 'reliable' (at least more so) despite it being from the same journo, the same source. All his stuff on AVB over the past couple of weeks has been for goal.com and it's all been spot on, as was his report on there that Nani had agreed a new contract.
 
Something's not right with him, surely. If we keep Rooney and got another quality wide man to provide more goals we'd be ok. Not getting enough goals from Young, Valencia, Nani, Welbeck or Kagawa at the moment to let him go anywhere.

Sell RVP, sign Reus.

Sorted. Siya, Robin.
 
Something's not right with him, surely. If we keep Rooney and got another quality wide man to provide more goals we'd be ok. Not getting enough goals from Young, Valencia, Nani, Welbeck or Kagawa at the moment to let him go anywhere.
Not saying it's impossible that he wants out, but if "something" is not right, then isn't the most likely that it is the injuries?
 
http://www.oneworldsports.com/stories/robin-van-persie-exploring-options-future

I always pay to the journo's track record rather than the medium. He gets a lot of stuff right.


Is he feck, he knows his shit. He's had the scoop on all the recent AVB stuff over the past month, he was the first to report Nani's new contract etc.
He's also writes for the Sunday Times - this story could easily have been in there which would have made it 'reliable' (at least more so) despite it being from the same journo, the same source. All his stuff on AVB over the past couple of weeks has been for goal.com and it's all been spot on, as was his report on there that Nani had agreed a new contract.

The scoop? You mean like many other journalists he predicted AVB would lose his job. Some insight, that. He throws his shit all over sulia/twitter/whatever for hits and occasionally one of his stories might materialize, but his record is appalling.
 
classic tedious non story here.

Hopefully this doesn't become like Evra and Vidic where they were definitely leaving every season
 
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