As far as I know Arsenal are running a fairly healthy business.
Robin van Persie | 2012-14 Performances
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As far as I know Arsenal are running a fairly healthy business.
In that case I think it's debatable whether it was a good decision or not.
Their problem seems to be they won't fork out on some of the really good players out there (even though Cazorla is really good). That way they won't compete for trophies and their best players eventually want to leave to win stuff. And it's hard to keep players against their wish.
Wenger has done a tremendous job in keeping them in the top four for so long though.
I am sure even the people who wanted him to sign also had that running through their mind. However at the end of the day we got a player who could well have gone for 50m+ in todays market for just over 20m.
That alone for me would have forced my hand and it certainly did Fergies.
Yes, always had a feeling it was less of a priority and more of a "too good to say no" type of business.
Probably the best strikers in the world, with a preference to come to us, at a reported price of 20mil upfront with some add-ons. Plus the fact that his style and position would suit Rooney's game so well ... it's a no-brainer.
In today's market, 20 mil doesn't get you too much, especially if you're shopping within the Premiership for "proven talent".
In today's market, 20 mil doesn't get you too much, especially if you're shopping within the Premiership for "proven talent".
It gets you Jordan Henderson
On 130K pw as well. We got him on very cheap.
His hold-up play is just
More like 200k/w.
Which Flying Dutchman will leave us the greatest legacy, RVN or RVP ?
Van Persie doesn't seem the type to dick the club about if they'd told him to see out his contract, and when you consider they spent the 24 million on Podolski and Giroud I'd have to agree with 90% of Arsenal fans. It was a terrible decision.
He is in his bollocks on 130k!
This is how it feels to be City This is how it feels to be small You sign Scott Sinclair, We sign RvP, RvP, RvP.
Obviously nobody really knows but I bet it's closer to that than £200k.
He chose us for footballing reasons, he turned down £300k a week at City and only wanted to join us and work under Ferguson.
As a result that shows his intentions were not swayed by money and with that in mind we would have had the upper hand so to speak in negotiations. After turning down that money to come to us and being so focused on the footballing reasons, you only need to hear the Van Gaal interview before he signed for us to know what joining us meant to him, do you really think he would have risked scuppering the move by demanding to be paid more than United would like to?
£130k is still a very respectable wage for any player to receive outside of the financial doping clubs.
I think 150~160 is more accurate than 130k.
Or Stewart Downing
I've heard hes our top earner alongside Rooney - 180 k pw
It would make sense to put him on parity with Rooney. That would be very justifiable and fair.
He's likely on parity with Rooney, whatever that is.
Yeah he turned down £300k but I very much doubt he would take less than half of that instead.
Apparently Young is in something like that. I think that RVP is in similar wage as Rooney, something like 180-200k.
He deserves to earn as much as Rooney, I'd easily put them on the same level. And let's not forget that at this age, RVP's probably signing his last big contract. He won't be making any more than this, unless he chooses to play out his career in China or the Middle-East for a nice retirement package.
Rooney can probably still go for one last big pay rise in a couple of years. Whatever it is, am just glad we're likely going to see this partnership at it's peak for another 2-3 years. Actually our whole strike force is nicely sorted for the next few years at least.
Rooney can probably still go for one last big pay rise in a couple of years. Whatever it is, am just glad we're likely going to see this partnership at it's peak for another 2-3 years. Actually our whole strike force is nicely sorted for the next few years at least.
The question is can you keep a player who doesn't want to be there?
We did it with Ronaldo and that worked out pretty well.
It's hard, my own club avoids it as much as possible, and as you can imagine we have to deal with those situations every now and again.
I think it depends a lot on the profile of the player, and how well the club can reason with him. It is on their best interest to keep performing well, as that is sure to have an impact on how good a contract they will manage to sign afterwards. He certainly wouldn't be on the same wage if he had a terrible last season playing for Arsenal, his professionalism would be questioned and people would wonder if he would be able to get to his old form.
Deco wanted to leave Porto in 2003. We made a tremendous effort to convince him to stay another season, as we wanted to make a good bet in the CL. It was a tough negotiation, but he stayed under the promise that we would make it easier for him to leave the following year wherever he wanted. He gave us his best season ever and ended up going to Barcelona for less than €20m (peanuts compared with the prices we were getting for other players) and we ended up with a CL trophy in the cabinet. But I guess this situation is more analogous to Ronaldo than RvP.
11 goals and 4 assists in the league so far. And he's scored some important goals as well: against Fulham, Southampton, Arsenal, Chelsea and now City. He's scores at crucial moments in matches too.
He's quickly become our best player.
He's quickly become our best player.
And Liverpool
Oh yeah, I forgot that because I didn't watch the Liverpool game unfortunately.
RVP seems pretty professional and has a great relationship with Wenger. If he was forced to stay on one extra season he would have almost certainly had a good/great season. Can't be much worse than Giroud/Podolski etc.
20m odd for a player in the last year of his contract was too good to turn down for a club like Arsenal.
That's the part I disagree with. If he would have had a good/great season for Arsenal then I don't think 20m was too good to turn down. Playing at his best, or near it, he could very well be the difference between Arsenal being a top-4 side or not. One year without Champions League is more or less worth 20m in prize money alone (assuming they could reach the final 16), let alone if you consider all the other non-financial implications of being out of the competition, such as the ability to draw talent, match-day revenue lost, etc.
This can only be considered a good decision if we assume he'd be shit for them this year.
Granted they may still reach 4th without him, which would make my point bogus, but I don't know if it's justifiable for a club as wealthy as Arsenal to put themselves at so much risk for 24m.
This can only be considered a good decision if we assume he'd be shit for them this year.
Granted they may still reach 4th without him, which would make my point bogus, but I don't know if it's justifiable for a club as wealthy as Arsenal to put themselves at so much risk for 24m.
On the other hand you could say that it can only be considered a bad decision if they don't finish top 4 this year.
Great article. Despite being one of the best strikers in the world he has the humility and respect for his younger, less established teammates. What a man.
Well, in hindsight it's easy.
I think it's more interesting to evaluate if it was a good decision considering the information they had available at the time. Considering Arsenal only finished 5 points above 5th last season I think it was foreseeable that there was a very meaningful risk of them being in the situation they are now.
I think this makes the decision at least debatable. Not a "definitely good decision" by a long shot.
i love that man!
He just looks so happy, almost Dwight Yorke levels of grinning every time I've seen him do an interview since joining.
Completely different. Ronaldo agreed to stay with us for another year while we were English and European champions. We were a great team back then and he knew we'd probably challenge for both trophies again. He also still had a long career ahead of him. Van Persie was stuck in a side that seemed to be regress year after year while time was more or less running out for him. There's no way Wenger could've convinced him to stay once the Manchester clubs came calling. He could've literally forced him to honour his contract but that can only lead to disaster. Wenger was powerless.
Must bear in mind he's been injury prone too. 20mil upfront for a player on the final year of his contract, asking for uncomfortably high wages, who's been managing only 20+ appearances for most years. That's worth considering.
It's looking like a good deal for us, but a lot of it hinges on him staying fit.
In his earlier career perhaps but in the last 24 months his fitness record is actually Brad Friedel-esque.
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