Roberto Firmino

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A Brazilian who decides to join Germany and Hoffenheim and thrives, is less likely to be enamored with Barcelona and Madrid.
Firmino follows 2 football clubs on Twitter...Hoffenheim and Barcelona
 
yeah lets get him and turn him into a world class player for madrid or barcelona.
Avoid south american players and young spaniards in future.

How many players have left Utd for Real/Barca in the last, say, 25 years?
 
I agree with you, and I would add that yes he won't improve the first eleven but he will improve the first fourteen. With him our rotation will be stronger in at least 2 positions.

Thats what I really like about him. He can play multiple positions, so will get plenty of game time even with rotation.
 
We need one of those.
Yeah definitely. Depay helps in that regard but a big problem of ours is not having anyone taking people on, and its been like that for a while... Di maria was supposed to be that but he's only really good at it once he's running at full pace, not really from a standing position.
 
I agree with you, and I would add that yes he won't improve the first eleven but he will improve the first fourteen. With him our rotation will be stronger in at least 2 positions.

He's definitely better than Fellaini or Young IMO.
 
He's definitely better than Fellaini or Young IMO.

For some reasons I don't see them in the first eleven but if you do, you are right he is better than them. But Fellaini is a very good goalscorer though.
 
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For some reasons I don't see them in the first eleven but if you do, you are right he is better than them. But Fellaini is a very good goalscorer.
Well this guy scored 16 bundesliga goals (22 including cups) in 2013-2014 and 7 (10 including cups) last season.
 
Well this guy scored 16 bundesliga goals (22 including cups) in 2013-2014 and 7 (10 including cups) last season.

I'm not sure why you gave me that information, but thank you, even though I'm aware of it. To be clear this is what I have in mind:

------Rooney----
Depay-Mata-Di Maria
 
I'm not sure why you gave me that information, but thank you, even though I'm aware of it. To be clear this is what I have in mind:

------Rooney----
Depay-Mata-Di Maria
Well you suggested one of Fellaini's merits (a player who is in direct contention with Firmino for a first team spot if the latter signs) is that he can chip in with goals. I merely pointed out that we won't be losing any of that if we replace him with the brazilian with the weird head.
 
Could take Matas place as far as I'm concerned

Yeah. He scored a few important goals for us but somehow he still doesn't convince with his general play. It is all tidy and well, but I expected more from him. He was a worldbeater for 1 season at Chelsea and very good in another.
 
Well you suggested one of Fellaini's merits (a player who is in direct contention with Firmino for a first team spot if the latter signs) is that he can chip in with goals. I merely pointed out that we won't be losing any of that if we replace him with the brazilian with the weird head.

No I said that Young and Fellaini weren't even in my mind, despite the fact that Fellaini was a very good goalscorer.
 
Firmino/Memphis/Mata/Di Maria/Young

That would be some great options.
 
Tbh, he sounds like the exact kind of player that we need. Fast, skillful, great dribbler, creative, and can play all across the front line. I really hope we get him, especially at the prices being quoted.


He's class, and worth more then what someone will get him for probably. But we don't really need him as he's mainly a #10, though he is versatile so maybe Van Gaal would plan on using him instead of Fellaini further back, or on the wing, or up front even. No doubt that he would improve us though, he's a very good dribbler and he's creative along with being a good goalscorer.

I've asked this question on here already but would you guys take him or Felipe Anderson? Not exactly the same type of players but both Brazilian attackers and both fresh rumored targets at similar suggested prices. Anderson looks more pacy and skilful
 
Looks like we are only linked with him because of what that Ze Elias guy said. I think he will go to City, doesn't make sense for us to sign him, we are stocked on the wings and behind the striker.
 
I've asked this question on here already but would you guys take him or Felipe Anderson? Not exactly the same type of players but both Brazilian attackers and both fresh rumored targets at similar suggested prices. Anderson looks more pacy and skilful

I don't know Anderson but Firmino has several seasons behind him and he is playing for Brazil, so I would say Firmino is a safer choice.
 
Are we stocked behind the striker? Our #10 options haven't done so well, and that has forced us to play Fellaini there for nearly the whole season. Fellaini's done very well there, better than nearly anyone expected, but a more skilled player in the attacking midfield area would improve us.
 
Looks like we are only linked with him because of what that Ze Elias guy said. I think he will go to City, doesn't make sense for us to sign him, we are stocked on the wings and behind the striker.

Not so sure on that tbh, especially the wings where we have Young, Depay, ADM, and at a push Valencia, I'm sure Januzaj isn't destined to play on the wing and imo will be loaned, so there is space there for one more, behind the striker is less obvious but Fellaini surely can't be an option long term, personally not sure LvG rates Mata in that position, the only thing that muddies the waters is Rooney who may play there if we sign a top striker, but again there could be an opening there for a player like Firmino.
 
We've got lots of numbers on the wing/#10, but very little quality. The only two players have played at the level we need are Di Maria and Mata. Young and Fellaini are squad level, and Januzaj/Memphis still unproven.
 
Are we stocked behind the striker? Our #10 options haven't done so well, and that has forced us to play Fellaini there for nearly the whole season. Fellaini's done very well there, better than nearly anyone expected, but a more skilled player in the attacking midfield area would improve us.

We have Fellaini, Mata, Rooney, Januzaj, Pereira and Di Maria that can play there. I think it's fair to say that we are stocked. Does this guy actually have something that those 6 don't? I haven't seen much of him, but I doubt it.

I'd be surprised if we sign somebody in that position, I think it's the last position we will be looking to reinforce this summer. I'm no tactical genius, but most of the times it looks to me that we are not even using a no. 10 with our current tactic.
 
I don't know Anderson but Firmino has several seasons behind him and he is playing for Brazil, so I would say Firmino is a safer choice.

A clip of Anderson



I've only seen Lazio once this season but he looks an exciting prospect.
 
I've asked this question on here already but would you guys take him or Felipe Anderson? Not exactly the same type of players but both Brazilian attackers and both fresh rumored targets at similar suggested prices. Anderson looks more pacy and skilful
I've only ever seen like one video of Felipe Anderson and he seems pacier and more of a winger, so no idea how good he is. I do like Firmino, just not sure if he's the player we need.

Our attacking situation is pretty difficult though if we're looking for who to buy. Depay was a great signing, and we have a good balance of players if you're optimistic now. Di Maria, Mata, Depay, Januzaj, Young... Those are great options to play on the wing or in the hole. The problem last season was that pretty much all but Young were off form most of the time, and Young isn't exactly a great player. It would be pretty reasonable to expect twice the output from every single one of them in terms of both goals and assists compared to what they did last season, if they found their form. The only issue for us is our striker position. Rooney is class on his day, but that doesn't happen all the time anymore, but he is also captain and still offers so much so that he will always start. So you can't buy a striker who will expect to start all the time, but you also want someone who will be a reliable goalscorer. Firmino has played up front occasionally so maybe that's why we're eyeing him, no idea if Felipe Anderson has played up front before. But Firmino would be able to fill in on the wings, up front, or in the Fellaini spot in midfield, so he'll get plenty of games, just probably not in one consistent position.
 
A clip of Anderson



I've only seen Lazio once this season but he looks an exciting prospect.

@2:40 was very poor had a 3 on 1 and cocked it right up.
saying that a 3 of Anderson, Frimino & Depay would be exciting weather it be a front 3 or behind the main striker
 
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Brazilian outlet Globo Esporte are now saying that Liverpool are leading the way for Firmino. Apparently they've gone in strong for him. Hopefully this forces our hand. He could be seriously good for them.

They're already getting excited on RAWK. Some have already conceded defeat because of our apparent interest haha. They have zero chance at him if our interest is real
 


He seems to be obessed with looking away when he shoots and scores haha. Goal is at 1:00 in. He made some bad short passes before that, in the clip.
 
For some reasons I don't see them in the first eleven but if you do, you are right he is better than them. But Fellaini is a very good goalscorer though.

Really? His mountain of 6 goals is hard to climb indeed
 
Really? His mountain of 6 goals is hard to climb indeed

Very good finisher if you prefer. We can trust Fellaini to score when the opportunity present itself.
 
Very good finisher if you prefer. We can trust Fellaini to score when the opportunity present itself.
I think that's being a bit kind to him. Decent finisher, in my opinion. Nothing more or less.
But... different opinions.
 
I think that's being a bit kind to him. Decent finisher, in my opinion. Nothing more or less.
But... different opinions.

It's an opinion but for me he is as good at finishing than most strikers, and I mean the good ones. But he is also a lousy midfielder.
 
Very good finisher if you prefer. We can trust Fellaini to score when the opportunity present itself.
Apart from at Everton of course, where all our ex Scouse players decide not to
Turn up.
 
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