Robert Lewandowski

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Football agents are basically recruitment agents for footballers. Their job is to get them better contracts and better sponsorship deals. And we all know that recruitment agents are money grabbing, disingenuous scum bags.
 
@BVBfansFF: Watzke today: "NO offers for Lewandowski. Heynckes is wrong. He is leaving Bayern next week. He knows nothing. Stop the rumours" [sport.pl]
 
I did think it was a bit of a dickish move by Heynckes regarding what he said last night about Lewandowski.
 
I really wish Dortmund can keep of Robert and that will go a long way in their rebuilding process. If they can keep him, Im sure they will be up there in Europe again next season. Bayern and Heynckes can go feck off!
 
Dortmund's executive Watzke has said that he was surprised about Heynckes comments and if Heynckes knows that Lewandowski will join Bayern, Watzke and his management would also like to be informed because they haven't received any bid.
 
Andrew~ said:
I don't think that's how agents work, in fairness. It's possible that Lewandowski just thinks the combination of money and trophies at Bayern is better than what Dortmund have to offer. I don't think the agent has much influence over where his client chooses to go and he's got to get paid a very large amount of money regardless of whether the player moves or not, so it's unlikely he cares very much.
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It's exactly how he works. He's been saying for a while in media that he wants the money and basically a few months after he started to settle in at Dortmund he said that Lewandowski's ambition is to earn much more and play at much bigger club - that's undermining his club to be fair, I'd be pissed if I were a Dortmund fan.
 
His agent has confirmed that he's going to Bayern. Clubs haven't agreed a price yet and Bayern haven't even made an inquiry but they have talked to Kucharski (agent) and agreed on wages etc. This is really a bit silly, I hope Dortmund will play hard and not sell him there. It'd be kind of hilarious if they kept him for another season and Kucharski missed out on several million euros he was supposed to make.

If he goes to Bayern he'll be on the move within 3 years anyway. Kucharski has already said that Lewandowski hasn't been at any club for more than 3 years and doesn't intend to.
 
Bayern have always been like that and this is the reason why they are despised by many football fans in Germany. I still remember how they ruined Stuttgart's magic triangle.

Disgusting club, disgusting fans, disgusting board.
 
I hope all this makes the Dortmund players really pissed off and motivated. It would be hilarious if Bayern were to lose the Bundesliga next year to Dortmund.
 
Cina said:
Bit harsh.
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Not really. The behaved in bad manners since I can remember and never showed respect to any other German club. They are accused of lack of respect to the teams and do everything to weaken the other teams
 
Balu said in some thread that Bayern have the problem that the top tier players from other countries than Germany wouldnt want to joing them over the likes of Real, Barca, United, Chelsea or City because the league in Germany isnt regarded as attractive as the Spanish or English league.

The funny thing is that Bayern are for a huge, huge amount responsable for exactly that. Stamping every club that challenges back into the ground by buying their best talents for years. No matter if it's Leverkusen, Stuttgart or now Dortmund. For the German league to become more attractive there must be more than 1 team challenging for the title.

Frustrating stuff
 
Escobar said:
Not really. The behaved in bad manners since I can remember and never showed respect to any other German club. They are accused of lack of respect to the teams and do everything to weaken the other teams
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And we don't spend big to buy all the best young English talent off other clubs at every possible opportunity?

The real difference between the way Bayern do it and we do it is that they don't have sugar daddies like Chelsea and City there who can also spend massively to get clubs players.
 
I don't really blame Bayern. The other clubs should just stop selling to them, or not put release clauses in their contracts or whatever.
 
Godfather said:
Balu said in some thread that Bayern have the problem that the top tier players from other countries than Germany wouldnt want to joing them over the likes of Real, Barca, United, Chelsea or City because the league in Germany isnt regarded as attractive as the Spanish or English league.

The funny thing is that Bayern are for a huge, huge amount responsable for exactly that. Stamping every club that challenges back into the ground by buying their best talents for years. No matter if it's Leverkusen, Stuttgart or now Dortmund. For the German league to become more attractive there must be more than 1 team challenging for the title.

Frustrating stuff
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Yes. It's frustrating, it's somewhat even heart-breaking and it sucks out any joy from the Bundesliga. What's more, they have no respect or shame whatsever. They openly tap up players who are still bound to other clubs.
 
I bet everyone on here would be happy as larry if we bought Bale and Wilshere, certainly not saying that we're a "disgusting" club for doing it.
 
MikeUpNorth said:
I don't really blame Bayern. The other clubs should just stop selling to them, or not put release clauses in their contracts or whatever.
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The release clauses maybe but still its up to the player to also say no. And the smaller clubs wont have much choice if Bayern come calling since those players wouldnt want to leave Germany. In that case the smaller clubs dont really have a choice now do they? Only a handful of German players like to play abroad these days. Out of the current international squad, only Klose, Ozil, Khedira, Mertesacker and Podolski are outside of Germany.
 
MikeUpNorth said:
I don't really blame Bayern. The other clubs should just stop selling to them, or not put release clauses in their contracts or whatever.
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What can Dortmund do though? Kucharski has kept whoring Lewandowski around for 2 years now and they've run his contract down to 1 year remaining now. It's either cash in now or let him go to Bayern for free next year. You can't do much when after a 4-1 win over Real Madrid players agent is seen on television talking about how Dortmund isn't a big enough club for his client rather than discussing the game which he was supposed to do. You can't keep a player who thinks he's far bigger than the club happy for long.
 
RDCR07 said:
The release clauses maybe but still its up to the player to also say no. And the smaller clubs wont have much choice if Bayern come calling since those players wouldnt want to leave Germany. In that case the smaller clubs dont really have a choice now do they? Only a handful of German players like to play abroad these days. Out of the current international squad, only Klose, Ozil, Khedira, Mertesacker and Podolski are outside of Germany.
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And of them all only Özil is potentially good enough to play for Bayern on a regular basis. They are by far the richest club in Germany and it shows. Leverkusen last year rejected their inquiry about Bender though, they went and bought Martinez though.
 
Cina said:
And we don't spend big to buy all the best young English talent off other clubs at every possible opportunity?

The real difference between the way Bayern do it and we do it is that they don't have sugar daddies like Chelsea and City there who can also spend massively to get clubs players.
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The real difference is a totally different though. It's that they are more or less a monopole. They are the only club in Germany able to buy every talent from other clubs. In every other top league it's at least 3 or 4 teams that can do that. (or 2 when you look at Spain and Barca and Real are hated for it)
That's the positive effect of sugar daddies with all the negatives they bring. They make a league more challenging and interesting.

Apart from RvP we hardly ever buy big guns from title rivals (and I'm beeing generous here, as Arsenal can hardly be considered a title challenger)
Bayern don't just buy the best talents from the German league, I could understand that. But they can afford to get them from their main title challengers.
 
Cina said:
I bet everyone on here would be happy as larry if we bought Bale and Wilshere, certainly not saying that we're a "disgusting" club for doing it.
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Is our attempt to try and stamp our only title rivals into the ground by doing that? You really have not much of a clue what Bayern are about do you?
Are we the only ones in the PL doing it? Are Spurs or Arsenal our only title rivals? Can we afford both Wilshere and Bale? Can we afford one of them?
 
Godfather said:
Apart from RvP we hardly ever buy big guns from title rivals (and I'm beeing generous here, as Arsenal can hardly be considered a title challenger)
Bayern don't just buy the best talents from the German league, I could understand that. But they can afford to get them from their main title challengers.
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We would if we could. We apparently put in several bids for Vieira back when we were going up against Arsenal every year. They didn't sell.
 
MikeUpNorth said:
We would if we could. We apparently put in several bids for Vieira back when we were going up against Arsenal every year. They didn't sell.
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That's the thing though. It goes in circles. How can other clubs ever be able to do it when their best talents are taken away the moment they look dangerous?
 
Cina said:
And we don't spend big to buy all the best young English talent off other clubs at every possible opportunity?

The real difference between the way Bayern do it and we do it is that they don't have sugar daddies like Chelsea and City there who can also spend massively to get clubs players.
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Hmmm.

There is a lot of difference between what they do, and what we do.
 
MikeUpNorth said:
Don't sell, or only sell abroad?
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You think teams in Germany wouldnt do exactly that if they could?
Just look at the Lewandowski saga. A guy with only one year left on his contract and an agent full of shit behind the player. Bayern comes in. They haven't even talked with Dortmund. They offer Lewandowski huge wages. What can you do as a club?

Dortmund have the huge advantage that they have some money now. They can (at least that's what they are saying) afford to let his contract run down.
Other clubs didnt have that advantage. They just couldnt say no to a big offer from Bayern.
 
Godfather said:
You think teams in Germany wouldnt do exactly that if they could?
Just look at the Lewandowski saga. A guy with only one year left on his contract and an agent full of shit behind the player. Bayern comes in. They haven't even talked with Dortmund. They offer Lewandowski huge wages. What can you do as a club?

Dortmund have the huge advantage that they have some money now. They can (at least that's what they are saying) afford to let his contract run down.
Other clubs didnt have that advantage. They just couldnt say no to a big offer from Bayern.
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Offer him to Monaco / PSG / City / whoever else is the overseas money club of the moment.

We bought Kagawa, so it's not only Bayern taking their best players.
 
MikeUpNorth said:
Offer him to Monaco / PSG / City / whoever else is the overseas money club of the moment.

We bought Kagawa.
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It's never that easy though is it?
Neuer for example: Many teams, also us, wanted him. But: He had a chance to stay in the country. He doesnt have to go abroad, leave his family, learn new languages and he's still able to challenge for every trophy every year. Now what's the chance someone like him (he also has a girlfriend from Munich) was going abroad? Minimal.

Götze is the same. He acutally is from Munich. He was never going to leave Germany when Bayern comes in for him. It's the same with a lot of talents that play in the BL. They will get huge wages at Bayern and challenge for every trophy every year. What more can they ask for?

Of course that leaves a lot to ask for for every other club in Germany
 
Lailiani said:
Bayern have always been like that and this is the reason why they are despised by many football fans in Germany. I still remember how they ruined Stuttgart's magic triangle.

Disgusting club, disgusting fans, disgusting board.
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Escobar said:
Not really. The behaved in bad manners since I can remember and never showed respect to any other German club. They are accused of lack of respect to the teams and do everything to weaken the other teams
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You hated the fact that we signed Van Persie? And I bet you would feel very bad if we sign Wilshere, or God forbid if we sign Bale.

Did you stopped watching the disgusting United when we signed Kagawa, and considerably weakened Dortmund by getting their best player?
 
Revan said:
You hated the fact that we signed Van Persie? And I bet you would feel very bad if we sign Wilshere, or God forbid if we sign Bale.
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I can't believe some of you just aren't able to see the difference from the situation in the BL compared to the one in the PL. I'm not even solely blaming Bayern for it but feck me the difference is so big it's unreal.
 
Godfather said:
You think teams in Germany wouldnt do exactly that if they could?
Just look at the Lewandowski saga. A guy with only one year left on his contract and an agent full of shit behind the player. Bayern comes in. They haven't even talked with Dortmund. They offer Lewandowski huge wages. What can you do as a club?

Dortmund have the huge advantage that they have some money now. They can (at least that's what they are saying) afford to let his contract run down.
Other clubs didnt have that advantage. They just couldnt say no to a big offer from Bayern.
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Just change Lewandowski, BVB and Bayern names with Berbatov, Spurs and United, and guess what, you have a similar scenario.
 
Godfather said:
I can't believe some of you just aren't able to see the difference from the situation in the BL compared to the one in the PL. I'm not even solely blaming Bayern for it but feck me the difference is so big it's unreal.
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So, because EPL is 'stronger' than Bundesliga (without wanting to go into an endless debate, I don't think that it is) we have the right of signing the best players in the league, but Bayern doesn't, because it weakens the league?
 
Revan said:
Just change Lewandowski, BVB and Bayern names with Berbatov, Spurs and United, and guess what, you have a similar scenario.
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Didnt know Spurs won the league and looked to be our only real title challenger in the following when we bought Berbatov
 
Imagine that Bayern dont dominate die Bundasliga and reach the CL final next year. Surely thats unacceptable for Guardiola with the team that did both this season + Goetze & Lewandowski ?
 
Dortmund are pretty rich now right? And I don't think the amount they ll get from bayern will be that much.

So just sell him abroad, to Monaco/psg/ anzhi/ man city whatever. He can go there now or he can stay with them for the year and then leave on a free next summer. But I don't get what they have to gain from selling him to bayern now.
 
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