Robert Lewandowski

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NoLogo said:
Oh another funny story, after the second leg game against Real, Perez apparently took Lewandowski aside in the player tunnel and went into an office with him for 10 minutes where he tried to convince him to come to Madrid next season.
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I still think bayern would be the best place for him to play. Madrid is so unstable and filled with egos. Their fans are white hanky waving wankers who boo you at the slightest dip in form.

I just find it odd how bayern are able to cherry pick all the best players from their domestic rivals season after season. I suppose the case with dortmund having to borrow money from bayern to keep afloat might have something to do with it.
 
DevilRed said:
I suppose the case with dortmund having to borrow money from bayern to keep afloat might have something to do with it.
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It got literally NOTHING to do with it.

Not even close.


The money Bayern gave Dortmund were about 2 million Euros with a fairly high interest rate. This money was still given to the old management. One of the first things the new management (Watzke) was doing was giving Bayern the money back.

So Bayern pretty much did nothing to help Dortmund on the rise back again. And I would bet left testicle on that they didnt do it on friendlyless when I consider the advantages.

First of all they get good interest. Even if it was an high risk credit, it was peanuts for Bayern. So the risk was overall low for them. Furthermore if Dortmund would have been gone it would have given them less money overall.

Directly through less audience earnings since Dortmund always had a big audience and indirectly through the Bundesliga losing one of their biggest clubs and therefor losing viewers and attractiveness.



So I really doubt this was out of kindness.
 
Drifter said:
The Borussia Dortmund deadline as passed ,so what now.
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No decision made yet, they'll talk after the CL final. The deadline was set before Dortmund made it to the final, so we probably know more in 2 weeks.
 
Why are people so certain he is going to Bayern? Is there anything to that?

If not, Bayern would be the last of the big clubs I could see him going to.

Rooney out, Lewwy in doesn't seem too far fetched, does it?
 
LawCharltonBest said:
Why are people so certain he is going to Bayern? Is there anything to that?

If not, Bayern would be the last of the big clubs I could see him going to.

Rooney out, Lewwy in doesn't seem too far fetched, does it?
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Mainly because Bild is saying it since a few months with a lot of certainty and if they keep on repeating something for so long with such certainty they are usually right about it.

But we won't know for sure before the end of the season and even then it might drag on for a while until it's certain where he goes.
 
Heynckes: "We know Goetze will be joining us and I don't think Lewandowski will be hanging about too much either."
 
Wenger supposedly confirmed on French TV while commentating that Bayern have got Lewandowski as well
 
Talk about kicking them while they are down. Take Gotze, beat them in the final and take Lewandowski as well for good measure!
 
He's a beast, didn't honestly realise how good this guy was until the latter stages of the CL.. disagree, he was facing a very physically robust backline and was still a threat.
 
Something does not sit right at all if the biggest team in the league can just hoover up the most prized assets of their biggest/only rivals. The growing reputation of the Bundesliga will surely need reconsidering if this does actually happen, which looks very likely.
 
Agreed. No matter how good Bayern are, if they continue to see off any club that gets close by sucking talent out of the rest of the league, the Bundesliga will never be able to establish itself as equal to the PL and La Liga.

For crying out loud, Dortmund's stadium fits 65k all seated and 80k for domestic games, and I think I'm right in saying they have the highest consistent attendance in the whole of Europe. They should be able to keep their best players, and especially be able to keep them out of Bayern's hands.
 
Are Dortmund a poor club by any chance? That is the only logical reason i can think of them offloading 2 of their best players to their major rivals.
 
Kevin said:
Very happy he is not coming our way.
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Kevin said:
I really hope the words of some pessimistic (but in reality they have hope that they might be surprised by an exciting signing or two) posters on here come true and we buy only fellaini or noone this summer.

Would love it.
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What's all this then? :lol:

I didn't particularly want us to sign Lewandowski either, but I'm not praying that we have a shit transfer window. Are you on some kind of manic pre-emptive 'don't want' campaign?
 
Red Pavan said:
Are Dortmund a poor club by any chance? That is the only logical reason i can think of them offloading 2 of their best players to their major rivals.
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Nah Goetze had a release clause that Bayern activated and Lewandowski on has 1 year left on his deal. Shitty contract situations have pretty much screwed Dortmund just like Kagawa's situation last summer did.
 
coolredwine said:
Technically, they are not offloading, but well..
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For me it just makes no sense, they won back to back league titles - the fans adore them, they have a very good manager and they play very attractive football. I can only think to blame the lack of money for the players to move and nothing else and it looks like Dortmund can't afford to pay the big bucks other teams are willing to offer them.

It is just a shame really, they could fall apart if one or two more important players leave.
 
Red Pavan said:
For me it just makes no sense, they won back to back league titles - the fans adore them, they have a very good manager and they play very attractive football. I can only think to blame the lack of money for the players to move and nothing else and it looks like Dortmund can't afford to pay the big bucks other teams are willing to offer them.

It is just a shame really, they could fall apart if one or two more important players leave.
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Reports are that Lewandowski is only on 20,000 per week at Dortmund. For a top player that is a bit pathetic. Even if he gets a new contract Dortmund cannot afford the kind of wages he'll be offered by the bigger clubs including Bayern.

It's just the way it is.
 
Ole's_toe_poke said:
Reports are that Lewandowski is only on 20,000 per week at Dortmund. For a top player that is a bit pathetic. Even if he gets a new contract Dortmund cannot afford the kind of wages he'll be offered by the bigger clubs including Bayern.

It's just the way it is.
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Dortmund offered him €4.5m - €5m a year though, Bayern offered €6.5m or slightly more. His agent wouldn't allow him to stay at Dortmund though because he gets a cut of his fee. He was on the TV today before and after the game basically talking about transfer all the time, it's pathetic.
 
Red Pavan said:
For me it just makes no sense, they won back to back league titles - the fans adore them, they have a very good manager and they play very attractive football. I can only think to blame the lack of money for the players to move and nothing else and it looks like Dortmund can't afford to pay the big bucks other teams are willing to offer them.

It is just a shame really, they could fall apart if one or two more important players leave.
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It's stupid, he could be earning €5m a year at Dortmund and be a star there. He'll go to Bayern and I won't be surprised to see him struggle in Guardiola's system, and end up at Stuttgart or Wolfsburg in 3 years. His agent will get €3.5m though, yay.
 
Sarni said:
It's stupid, he could be earning €5m a year at Dortmund and be a star there. He'll go to Bayern and I won't be surprised to see him struggle in Guardiola's system, and end up at Stuttgart or Wolfsburg in 3 years. His agent will get €3.5m though, yay.
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Guardiola would be daft to change this Bayern side much. Their system is absolutely fine and Lewandowski would fit right into it in place of Mandzukic
 
Red Pavan said:
Are Dortmund a poor club by any chance? That is the only logical reason i can think of them offloading 2 of their best players to their major rivals.
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They will reach at least 250 Mil € annuall revenue without transfers at the end of the season, including transfers they will break the 300 Mil€ line if Lewandowski leaves in the summer.

They are financially in extreme good shape and quite comfortably the 2nd richest club in Germany behind Bayern.

Their biggest problem is, that their financial growth was so fast (150 Mil€ in 2011, 200Mil € in 2012), that they have outgrown their own contracts and their wage roll is really small in relation to their financial ressources.

Götze signed his last contract in spring 2012, which included the 37Mil€ buy out clause and an annual salary of around 4Mil €. Bayern Munich offered him 12Mil € (this is slightly less than what Rooney gets at United), which makes him their top earner instantly.

Lewandowski simply did not want to renew his until 2014 running contract, which is why he still earns so little money. He or better his agent Kucharski wants to make him the biggest brand in Polish football history, which is why he wants to go to Bayern aswell. Dortmund was actually ready to offer him nearly as much as Bayern in terms of salary.


The officials of Dortmund are already working on closing the big gap between revenue and wages. A lot of their players renewed their contracts in the last six months, some of them only for one more year (e.g. Bender and Pisczcek), which are basically wage rises.

Kuba is set to renew his current contract until 2018 in the next days, Gündogan is also right now in talks and things are looking really good. They also want to sit down with Reus in the summer and want to get rid of his buy out clause of 35 Mil€, which could come into effect in 2015. I also expect talks with Hummels to give him a raise including a renewal until 2018 like Kuba.
 
Sphaero said:
Götze signed his last contract in spring 2012, which included the 37Mil€ buy out clause and an annual salary of around 4Mil €. Bayern Munich offered him 12Mil € (this is slightly less than what Rooney gets at United), which makes him their top earner instantly.
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So Gotze is Bayern's highest paid player despite just moving there and only being 20.. Wonder what Schweinsteiger etc think of that.

Is Gotze even certain to start for Bayern? Even if Robben leaves that still leaves Kroos for that central AM spot if Muller goes to the right
 
Theon said:
So Gotze is Bayern's highest paid player despite just moving there and only being 20.. Wonder what Schweinsteiger etc think of that.

Is Gotze even certain to start for Bayern? Even if Robben leaves that still leaves Kroos for that central AM spot if Muller goes to the right
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If he keeps his form of the last years, he will walk into the team and replace Kroos. He is superior in anything but shooting technique.
 
Usually it was him ahead of Robben, and Muller moving right.
 
Kroos retains the ball better than Goetze, would be strange to replace him in the lineup first with Martinez and pushing him forward and then Goetze
 
So Lewy is off to Bayerns then, off to the Falcoa thread...wait for a sec!
 
So I guess he didn't take the penalty because he's off to Bayern? Or did he miss any recently?
 
Brightonian said:
What's all this then? :lol:

I didn't particularly want us to sign Lewandowski either, but I'm not praying that we have a shit transfer window. Are you on some kind of manic pre-emptive 'don't want' campaign?
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His username is Kevin. Says it all. What an idiot. "I want us to be shit on the transfer market so I can wank myself silly at the thought of the caf going into a meltdown".
Some of you are really rather strange. Mostly the wanna-be Top Reds. Him and Rowem are one of the worst.

It's a shame if Lewandowski joins Bayern as well. He is damn good and Dortmund would struggle to find a proper replacement. fecking Bayern.
 
Great player in the right set-up, he would be awful for United as we already lack any penetrating threat. However if you have wingers with brilliant dribbling who love to take runs behind the defense then he is one hell of a player.
 
Sarni said:
Dortmund offered him €4.5m - €5m a year though, Bayern offered €6.5m or slightly more. His agent wouldn't allow him to stay at Dortmund though because he gets a cut of his fee. He was on the TV today before and after the game basically talking about transfer all the time, it's pathetic.
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I don't think that's how agents work, in fairness. It's possible that Lewandowski just thinks the combination of money and trophies at Bayern is better than what Dortmund have to offer. I don't think the agent has much influence over where his client chooses to go and he's got to get paid a very large amount of money regardless of whether the player moves or not, so it's unlikely he cares very much.
 
Andrew~ said:
I don't think that's how agents work, in fairness. It's possible that Lewandowski just thinks the combination of money and trophies at Bayern is better than what Dortmund have to offer. I don't think the agent has much influence over where his client chooses to go and he's got to get paid a very large amount of money regardless of whether the player moves or not, so it's unlikely he cares very much.
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Are you joking? Agents have a huge say in what players do and where they go.

Got to say, I've rather grown to dislike Bayern over the past couple of seasons.
 
africanspur said:
Are you joking? Agents have a huge say in what players do and where they go.

Got to say, I've rather grown to dislike Bayern over the past couple of seasons.
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Some agents do, most agents don't - is what I was trying to say. Agents can't really control players, but by virtue of usually being the players' confidant, they can have unique influence on the players' decisions.
 
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