Rio Ferdinand Saga. (RIO ASKS FOR TRANSFER)

[Dans]

Two people on this board swear like that and lose it easily. Both are Billy bullshitters too.

 

[RUDDY]

Originally posted by Dans:
<strong>Two people on this board swear like that and lose it easily. Both are Billy bullshitters too.</strong><hr></blockquote>

get alife you fool

 

[Dans]

Niiiiiiiice.

 

[Jens]

Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
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I wonder how many season tickets they've sold for this season?</strong><hr></blockquote>

there are still season tickets available at lufc.com

 

[Davo]

Originally posted by Jens:
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there are still season tickets available at lufc.com</strong><hr></blockquote>

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

Small time outfit

 

[RUDDY]

you are though really arent you, just a sad bloke who dont get out much with no real quilty of life who spends his whole life camped out on here nit picking at everybodys posts like the sad feck you are

 

[Dans]

Is it getting to you Ruddy? Mate if you lie as much as you do you're gonna get called for it. That has no reflection on me, rather it reflects on you - you're a liar who makes up stories to impress people on a message board. You can't even lie well. You're the sad one Ruddy.

 

[RUDDY]

Originally posted by Dans:
<strong>Is it getting to you Ruddy? Mate if you lie as much as you do you're gonna get called for it. That has no reflection on me, rather it reflects on you - you're a liar who makes up stories to impress people on a message board. You can't even lie well. You're the sad one Ruddy.</strong><hr></blockquote>


point out to me what ive lied about trainspotter?

 

[Jens]

Originally posted by Nigel Borrington:
<strong>I must admit I don’t understand was SAF is on about when he say’s that this deal is going to take to long. If Leeds is still saying they have not received any bids then what the hell is going on?

How can we hope do get this moving if we have not placed a bid? Something is starting to smell about this one and yet again the fans are left wondering what the hell to think!

Come on United have we placed a bid or not or is this just an attempt to make it look like we are attempting to spend money when the club is not willing to do so.</strong><hr></blockquote>


fergie´s playing the waiting game and he´s right. time is on our side and we´re just waiting until his price falls

 

[Dans]

You know that, you don't need me to point it out.

 

[Jens]

Originally posted by marchingontogether:
<strong>Isn't there a deadline when you must sign Rio if he is to play in the CL?

August 1st??</strong><hr></blockquote>

for the qualifiers? i reckon we can beat whatever team we draw without rio ...

the deadline for all european games this year (2002) is august 31st

 

[Jens]

Originally posted by Davo:
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<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

Small time outfit</strong><hr></blockquote>

<a href="http://www.leedsunited.com/tickets/season_tickets.asp" target="_blank">http://www.leedsunited.com/tickets/season_tickets.asp</a>

 

[Amir]

Originally posted by Jens:
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fergie´s playing the waiting game and he´s right. time is on our side and we´re just waiting until his price falls</strong><hr></blockquote>

Is it? I'm not so sure. Leeds aren't desperate to sell, especially because Rio is behaving so nicely about all this (even though, admittedly, it'll be hard for him to stay now...), while we are deep into July without new signings and we can really use the time until the new season to intergrate a new defender into the lineup.

Time is on no one's side here. We got away with it when we signed Yorke AFTER the season started in 1998, not so sure it can be as easy with a defender.

 

[Kevin]

I agree. Unless Fergie knows something we don't, I hope we sign him fast.

 

[Jens]

Trust the wizard ...

 

[Amir]

Originally posted by Jens:
<strong>Trust the wizard ...</strong><hr></blockquote>

I trust the wizard with my life. It's the PLC I don't trust with my gold fish.

 

[zude2000]

So is anything else going to happen today you think in the Rio saga or is it wait until tomorrow or later? Is the new bid coming in the next few hours?

 

[Nigel Borrington]

Originally posted by zude2000:
<strong>So is anything else going to happen today you think in the Rio saga or is it wait until tomorrow or later? Is the new bid coming in the next few hours?</strong><hr></blockquote>

No!

I think this one is over, If Rio gets on the Leeds plane Saturday for there far east per-season run around I think it is all over, and so it could be for our season as well!

 

[cD]

Originally posted by zude2000:
<strong>So is anything else going to happen today you think in the Rio saga or is it wait until tomorrow or later? Is the new bid coming in the next few hours?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well, we'll just have to wait and see won't we? Most of us here haven't really got friends in CARRINGTON now have we?

 

[cD]

Originally posted by Nigel Borrington:
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No!

I think this one is over, If Rio gets on the Leeds plane Saturday for there far east per-season run around I think it is all over, and so it could be for our season as well!</strong><hr></blockquote>

I'd have to disagree. We will get someone. Rio is not our only key to success, there are other alternatives.

 

[Nigel Borrington]

Originally posted by cd:
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I'd have to disagree. We will get someone. Rio is not our only key to success, there are other alternatives.</strong><hr></blockquote>

OK!

SAF has said that Rio is our number one target so why not spend the £35m and get the best, or should we go for second best?

Or is this all a show to keep the share price as high as possible?

 

[ET]

Originally posted by Jens:
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for the qualifiers? i reckon we can beat whatever team we draw without rio ...
</strong><hr></blockquote>

I bet Inter fans thought they would beat Helsingborg a couple of seasons ago
Not that I except Man Utd to fail in qualifying though.

 

[Amir]

Originally posted by Nigel Borrington:
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SAF has said that Rio is our number one target so why not spend the £35m and get the best, or should we go for second best?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Who said we've got 35m? Who says Leeds want 35m?

 

[gulli_G]

what about nesta's comments???????:

<a href="http://www.planetfootball.com/article.asp?id=100076&clid=&cpid=21&Title=Nesta%3A+My+future%27s+in+Lazio%27s+hands" target="_blank">http://www.planetfootball.com/article.asp?id=100076&clid=&cpid=21&Title=Nesta%3A+My+future%27s+in+Lazio%27s+hands</a>

 

[Nigel Borrington]

Originally posted by Amir:
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Who said we've got 35m? Who says Leeds want 35m?</strong><hr></blockquote>

All of the TV reports today have stated that £30m + is what would be required. I think we have £35m don't you? we have just signed a new contract with Nike worth 300m and that's only a part of our income!

 

[Red_For_Life]

Originally posted by Nigel Borrington:
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No!

I think this one is over, If Rio gets on the Leeds plane Saturday for there far east per-season run around I think it is all over, and so it could be for our season as well!</strong><hr></blockquote>

we have managed fine with Rio ferdinand , so why is our season over before it starts if we don't get him ?????

Rio ferdinand will be an excellent Signing but if he doesn't come then we will find someone else , Only dumb people think that just cos he signs it means WE Already won Everything , it happened when we signed Veron and RVN.

We do need Rio's quality but there are many out there who IMO are as good. I think anything above 25mln is way too much for him, it doesn't gurantee success. I think we should definetly buy 2 defenders, throwing money at one doesn't solve the problem , WHAT if he gets injured ????.

 

[lchk]

Originally posted by Amir:
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Is it? I'm not so sure. Leeds aren't desperate to sell, especially because Rio is behaving so nicely about all this (even though, admittedly, it'll be hard for him to stay now...), while we are deep into July without new signings and we can really use the time until the new season to intergrate a new defender into the lineup.

Time is on no one's side here. We got away with it when we signed Yorke AFTER the season started in 1998, not so sure it can be as easy with a defender.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Precisely. Ferdinand will on a plane on club tour duty this Saturday if Fergie and Risdale don't agree a fee by Friday night. We surely can't afford to wait for Ferdinand to come back from his club tour and stall all our other targets in the meantime.

 

[antohan]

Originally posted by lchk:
<strong>Ferdinand will on a plane on club tour duty this Saturday if Fergie and Risdale don't agree a fee by Friday night. We surely can't afford to wait for Ferdinand to come back from his club tour and stall all our other targets in the meantime.</strong><hr></blockquote>

If nothing is agreed by then, I would not be surprised if Rio refuses to get on the plane and Risdale holds a press conference on Monday saying Rio is going nowhere.

Tosser.

 

[ET]

Originally posted by Red_For_Life:

Rio ferdinand will be an excellent Signing but if he doesn't come then we will find someone else , Only dumb people think that just cos he signs it means WE Already won Everything , it happened when we signed Veron and RVN.<hr></blockquote>

That's so true. People (not all of you) also seem to think that Rio is the absolutely best available centre back. He's been playing in Premiership, that's a great advantage that most of your targets don't have but I suppose top players will adapt soon, no matter where they come from.

And even if you get Rio, it takes time to gel, especially in defence where mistakes aren't allowed. The earlier you get your man, whoever he is, the better.

 

[Amir]

Originally posted by antohan:
<strong>If nothing is agreed by then, I would not be surprised if Rio refuses to get on the plane and Risdale holds a press conference on Monday saying Rio is going nowhere.</strong><hr></blockquote>

We shouldn't allow the poor lad to be backed into a corner like this. What if we DON'T actually manage to agree a fee and he's forced to stay there?

We don't HAVE to agree a fee by tonight but we have to get the ball rolling enough for Leeds to keep him in England.

 

[Amir]

Originally posted by Nigel Borrington:
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All of the TV reports today have stated that £30m + is what would be required. I think we have £35m don't you? we have just signed a new contract with Nike worth 300m and that's only a part of our income!</strong><hr></blockquote>

Fair enough. I do actually believe we should have 35m or we'd never take this Rio thing so far, as we could end up with a huge egg on our face (biggest club in the world get everything right... except they can't pay the fee). I just don't like to make 'money statements' according to reports because you never know how accurate they are.

As for Nike, I doubt we get all 300m in one year! So it's around 23m a year or so, but you also have to consider it is'nt a 'whole new 23m profit', but an extra gain over what Umbro used to pay us (whatever figure that was!).

 

[manfromthemars]

I am reading the so-called In-the-mail-bag at football365 and can not help laughing at those poor Leeds fan whose still think that they can sell Rio to Real/equivalent continental clubs instead of to United.
Wake up poor little boys! Who else is gonna pay you 30M + for him?

 

[Cal?]

Originally posted by manfromthemars:
<strong>I am reading the so-called In-the-mail-bag at football365 and can not help laughing at those poor Leeds fan whose still think that they can sell Rio to Real/equivalent continental clubs instead of to United.
Wake up poor little boys! Who else is gonna pay you 30M + for him?</strong><hr></blockquote>

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> I saw that too, it's funny how those sheeps think that there is a huge queue of top European clubs trying to sign Rio.

Real, I don't really know, but do they really think Inter (or Juve) are gonna pay them 30m+ for Rio when they couldn't afford Nesta for less??

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

 

[Nigel Borrington]

Originally posted by Amir:
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Fair enough. I do actually believe we should have 35m or we'd never take this Rio thing so far, as we could end up with a huge egg on our face (biggest club in the world get everything right... except they can't pay the fee). I just don't like to make 'money statements' according to reports because you never know how accurate they are.

As for Nike, I doubt we get all 300m in one year! So it's around 23m a year or so, but you also have to consider it is'nt a 'whole new 23m profit', but an extra gain over what Umbro used to pay us (whatever figure that was!).</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yes I know that the 300m is not all available today but I still fell that considering who we are we should be able to spend that kind of money to get what the club themselves clearly know we need. I think it could be a bigger problem that no one has yet purchased the players we would like to get shot of. The PLC are getting the wind because they can see us stuck with assets that no one will take, this is what SAF is talking about when he says the market is dead, yet at the same time the CExec is making big statments about our finance power in the market place.

I cannot understand the comment about doing OK with out Rio, why do we need him? have you been asleep for a year, we have no silver in the trophie room! we finished in third for the first time in 10years, we let in goals all over the place, we let stam go, WE NEED THE BEST IN THE WORLD, RIO!

 

[Amir]

Originally posted by Nigel Borrington:
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The PLC are getting the wind because they can see us stuck with assets that no one will take, this is what SAF is talking about when he says the market is dead, yet at the same time the CExec is macking big statment about our finance power in the market place.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yep, thats the different between the PLC and us, the manager and the fans. We want plays to come and stay for years and years, we don't see them as assets who we have to think of their later sales, like they're a car or something.

 

[Nigel Borrington]

Originally posted by Amir:
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Yep, thats the different between the PLC and us, the manager and the fans. We want plays to come and stay for years and years, we don't see them as assets who we have to think of their later sales, like they're a car or something.</strong><hr></blockquote>


Yep! totally agree, we have informed players that they can look else where, yet they could end up playing for us again in August, will they be committed?, did we judge the state of the current market correctly?, if we can not who can?


Anyway we will have to wait an see what takes place today. 24 hours for the club to show there true placing in the Market, is the Cexec full of words and nothing else, time to play your hand PK!

 

[Tomo]

from optasoccer

LEEDS UNITED'S wantaway captain Rio Ferdinand has revealed why he wants to leave the West Yorkshire club. The England international has revealed that the lure of Champions League football is the reason he wants to quit Elland Road for Premiership rivals Manchester United. The Red Devils are now thought to be in talks with Leeds, in the hope of agreeing a fee for the 23-year-old.

"I have told Mr Ridsdale why I feel I have to leave and I think he understands," said Ferdinand.

"He told me if an acceptable offer came in for me, he would consider it."

"There is no animosity on either side. I just feel I need Champions League football to help my career. I played in it once with Leeds and it was brilliant and I feel I need more of it now to make me a better player."

"A footballer has a short career and you have to make the most of your opportunities.

"The chance to get back in the Champions League is too good to miss. It is a natural progression in a footballer's career to want to play at the top in Europe."

"Being at the World Cup didn't make me think like that, I felt that way before I went."

"I want to play against the best all the time, that's what I'm striving for. It's important to me."

"The meeting with the chairman was perfectly amicable. He made his points, I made mine."

"I really hope if I do leave, it's on the best terms possible. I appreciate what the club has done for me and the fans have been first class."

"I've thought long and hard about them every day since I made this decision because I owe them a lot. It was not an easy decision to make."

"It is not like I have done it without thinking but this is what I believe will benefit me as a player. "

"I can appreciate why the Leeds fans want me to stay. I just hope deep down they understand my reasons for putting myself on the list."

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Rio will become a red, it's just the matter of time

 

[Nigel Borrington]

Ferdinand seeks move 'for the good of career'


Rio Ferdinand says he has asked Leeds to allow him to leave for the good of his career.
Ferdinand handed in a transfer request in a bid to hasten a move to Manchester United.

And he believes a transfer across the Pennines - for a fee of around £30million - would be beneficial to his development as a player.

How much more do's Rio have to do before we just send a car over to Leeds and get the poor lad, he is gagging for it, come on PK! send the money book the car and get him for god sake!

Or should we let Arsenal or Liverpool have him?

 

[Amir]

Sky News say an announcement should be made today regarding Rio's future. Not sure if it's something they were actually told or just an educated guess.

Come on United... Get the cheque book out...

 

[uranushk1]

Originally posted by Nigel Borrington:
<strong>Or should we let Arsenal or Liverpool have him?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Do you think they can afford any single player cost more than 20m? Either he joins us or he stays in Leeds. And even if he stays in Leeds it's not the end of the world. He is not the only world class defender and he is not even the best defender in the world. There are other opinions available and we can even save some money to buy one more player.