They wouldn't go for £65m. Even Mahrez who's been immense this past year wouldn't go for more than £45m imo. £60m+ is what players like Benzema, Lewandowski, Pogba would go for.
Right Winger... Who do we go for?
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No I honestly think he's bang on, Mahrez will cost between £50-60 million and Pogba between £80-100 that's the mental world we live in now. The market has exploded and I expect that to be the norm over the next few seasons.
How about we give the likes of memphis a chance, along with lingard who scored a devastating winner. A attacking trio of memphis martial and rashford has got so much potential, we need to start seeing investments start to pay off more in Herrera, Morgan, Memphis, Martial, because there is so much these players can give, we should concentrate on strengthening the midfield and the defense, not positions which could easily go from strength to strength under the right manager
The market is crazy right now! I know how much it is. We are a Big Club in the PL, clubs know that they can milk us out atm.
He'll be expensive, but £65m is a bit steep. Suarez was £70m?
I suspect this too especially since Martial and Shaw are expected to be the more offensive wing. I'm sure Valencia and Darmian/TFM can make up the more conservative wing that contributes to team solidity with Valencia being tucked in as more of a right sided midfielder.
81.72 Million Euro according to transfermarkt. Prices are crazy...
Which reports? Every transfer rumor article I read states Mourinho is targeting a CM, RW, CB and Striker
A Darmian - Valencia duo on the right would be absolutely terrible even despite the fact Van Gaal isn't manager anymore. If that's the alternative, I'd rather stick with Lingard.
Noooooooooo
Valencia is even more predictable than Lingard and that's saying something. At least Lingard is capable of contributing with a few goals here and there and has a better understanding with the likes of Rashford and Martial.
Anyways, I'm pretty sure we'll sign a new winger. There have been some links with Joao Mario and that's a good start considering the fact it's not even June yet.
Valencia can't play right wing anymore, and in any case, he's pretty decent at full back now... we need one of those fancy inverted wingers to compliment him or Darmian on that side
Really interested to see what Jose has up his sleeve for right wing. Would love Mahrez but Mane would be decent imo. I don't think Sane is ready for a big move.
Really interested to see what Jose has up his sleeve for right wing. Would love Mahrez but Mane would be decent imo. I don't think Sane is ready for a big move.
You are living in 2013 if you think the liked of pogba or Lewandowski would go for £60m.
Mahrez will be over £50m for sure.
What suggests that they'd go for any more than £70-75m?
Most of the latest ones only mention a striker, centre back and midfielder. Hopefully we'll sign a right winger though, it's one of the top priorities and Jose's understanding of football is closer to ours than Van Gaal's, who lived in his own world.
I'm certain Jose will sign a right winger. He's been watching us for the last 6 months there is zero chance he hasn't figured out we desperately need one.
I hate this idea that because we have Martial on the left our RW has to be a trudging workhorse, when Jose was at Real he had Ronaldo and Di Maria, and at Chelsea the first time he had Duff and Robben.
Mourinho will be under a lot of scrutiny regarding Rashford so that might mean we avoid spending a fortune on someone like Sane, as the question would be why we paid a fortune instead of playing our own young gun. Hopefully we get in a more established player like Joao Mario, Mkhitaryan or Mahrez.
Mourinho will be under a lot of scrutiny regarding Rashford so that might mean we avoid spending a fortune on someone like Sane, as the question would be why we paid a fortune instead of playing our own young gun. Hopefully we get in a more established player like Joao Mario, Mkhitaryan or Mahrez.
if I remember correctly both ADM and Duff used to do a lot of donkey work . I have no idea what happened at Inter so can't comment.
When Pogba moves it will be for a new record.
Lewandowski won't be going anywhere IMO.
Just wait and see the market in 2016. Did you not see the fees for Martial and Sanches?
I think this Summer could see Us/City/Chelsea come mightily close to the 100 million mark
When West Ham are opening bidding of 31 million for Lacazette you know it will be a crazy summer
Rachid Ghezzal plays for Lyon and Algeria, recently turned 24. Very left-footed, but usually plays on the right wing. Has a remarkable stat of 6 MotM in 16 appearances in Ligue 1, in only 1588 minutes played. 8 goals and 8 assists in that time too. His MotM stat has him 5th on the European list behind: 1. Zlatan Ibrahimovic, 2. Lionel Messi, 3. Henrikh Mkhitaryan, 4. Wahbi Khazri. Warning: That MotM stat is very similar to Wahbi Khazri's at Bordeaux. Since moving to Sunderland Khazri has only 1 MotM.
Think he's only got 1 year left on his contract as well. If we went for anyone from Lyon, it would have to be Fekir though; even after the injury I think the'd be great.
What do you think about Gabriel Barbosa?
I may be off base but I don't see us buying an under 21 winger because the scrutiny regarding Rashford will be on Jose and I think he'll utilize on the RW at times this season.
Was great on Championship manager
Little I have seen of him he reminds me a bit of the fat ROnaldo more touch than tricks though, small an dpowerful. Think he is going to be a top top player.....but a young striker from South America when we have Rashford and Martial I am not sure fits....sadlyI've heard great things about Fekir. Not sure who else is established out there though.. Mahrez is probably our best bet. I reckon we can get him for £25m and it would be worth the money.
Here's list of 49 advanced midfield players, sorted by whoscored Rating. I excluded some from the list such as anyone (a) over 28, (b) 'creative' players who can't average an assist or goal at least once every 270 minutes!, and (c) who clearly normally play as a #9.
Looks to me like Gabriel Jesus is another right-footed left-winger. He's pretty two-footed so should be good on the right too. I'd say go for: Riyad Mahrez, Ousmane Dembélé or Rachid Ghezzal, with Gabriel Jesus as the wild-card (fans will love him). Not for Sadio Mané or Leroy Sané, because they're either too expensive or not currently highly rated (both stat-wise and in terms of goals/assists per minute).
Note:
Mahrez is 9th best player in the world (according to whoscored stats), just above Pogba who's 10th.
whoscored : whoscored order (e.g. Lionel Messi = 1, with top rating = 8.5)
Players with name highlighted in green are some linked to United.
MotM : green highlight shows player gets a MotM every 8 matches, or better.
Yellows : Only 1 player is highlighted as a potential issue because AM style players generally have a good ratio of games played to yellows.
Looks to me like Gabriel Jesus is another right-footed left-winger. He's pretty two-footed so should be good on the right too. I'd say go for: Riyad Mahrez, Ousmane Dembélé or Rachid Ghezzal, with Gabriel Jesus as the wild-card (fans will love him). Not for Sadio Mané or Leroy Sané, because they're either too expensive or not currently highly rated (both stat-wise and in terms of goals/assists per minute).
Note:
Mahrez is 9th best player in the world (according to whoscored stats), just above Pogba who's 10th.
whoscored : whoscored order (e.g. Lionel Messi = 1, with top rating = 8.5)
Players with name highlighted in green are some linked to United.
MotM : green highlight shows player gets a MotM every 8 matches, or better.
Yellows : Only 1 player is highlighted as a potential issue because AM style players generally have a good ratio of games played to yellows.
Who the feck has suggested Valencia? He's nothing more than a filler player. We shouldn't need him to start anywhere but I'd be happy for him to share RB with Darmien for another season as it's unlikely we'll improve that position this summer. After that maybe keep him as backup or move him on.
In no particular order:
Mahrez
Mkhitaryan
Nabil Fekir
Leroy Sane
Adam Ounas
Emre Mor
Embolo
Mahrez
Mkhitaryan
Nabil Fekir
Leroy Sane
Adam Ounas
Emre Mor
Embolo
Embolo is a striker I thought (could be wrong)? Mkhik's best position is behind the striker as well.
I think it was suggested in a way of "Jose might fancy him for work rate" rather than he's the man to solve all out problem lol
I'd love Embolo, he's young with a lot of potential. He can beat a man and has good pace, you just know whatever the fee this summer he will be worth more in 3 years time. Sign him up!
Mahrez - Rashford - Martial would Sound good to me.
Take Griezmann, offer them Mata as a sweetener.
I wouldn't want us to. Varela and Darmian have shown enough under Van Gaal to suggest they can be excellent under a proper manager. Looking around the market, I don't see many better options, particularly when we have Valencia as an adequate if uninspiring 3rd choice.
Mkhitaryan. All the way. Go get him now, make it happen
He actually is
Mkhitaryan would be a brilliant signing, arguably ideal for Mourinho as well. Loads of pace, a hard worker, versatile and can counter attack brilliantly. Would be a good balance to having Martial on the left.
You just know Mata would turn into a world beater at Atletico
Embolo is certainly a striker by trade, that much is true. But he's also more than capable of playing as a right forward, or as an attacking right midfielder. As a matter of fact, he's played more games on the right in the 2015/16 season, than he did playing as a striker. And whilst this is partly due to his age, it's also due to his ability of being a great crosser of the ball, a goal threat, and being an explosive dribbler in tight spaces. I'd quite like to see him playing as a right forward in a interchanging fluid attacking trident. When we were playing a 4-4-2 with the likes of Ronaldo, Rooney and Tevez in the same starting berth, it was often Tevez who was part of that "2" and particularly on the right meaning he was essentially playing as a right forward, and in actuality it was more or less a front three as Ronaldo wasn't restrained to playing on the left but rather worked in conjunction with Tevez and Rooney. Concurrently, we would have Park or Fletcher as part of the "4" playing as narrow right sided right midfielders. Despite Tevez having qualities to be used as the primary goal threat as we saw with Man City, and later Juventus, he was a key component for us. Additionally, David Villa was a striker for Valencia, and a rather prolific one at that (scored 21 goals in 32 La Liga appearances and 6 goals in 10 Europa League appearances), but that didn't stop Guardiola from using him as a left forward making him part of a very potent trident, rather than spearheading the attack. One other example being Thierry Henry, who is unequivocally one of the greatest strikers to grace the EPL, but he was also used as a wide forward under Pep, and prior to Pep's arrival, a player with the qualities of a striker was deployed as a left forward in Eto'o. Speaking of Eto'o it was also the case that Mourinho used him at times as an inside forward, so it isn't an issue in my personal opinion.
Mkhitaryan is a versatile player, as our Reus and Aubameyang who make up the front three in Dortmund's 4-3-3 respectively. Given that they're all versatile players, they tend to interchange frequently. With Martial as a left forward, we would have a versatile players and he's certainly capable of playing as a striker, and provided Memphis was deployed on the left, the same principle applies as he's a wide forward by trade who likes to drift into central positions in the pursuit of goals. And Rashford is versatile himself, often showing glimpses of the individual brilliance he showed at U18 level when momentarily going to the right hand side. Moreover, many playmakers tend to play on the right. For instance, our very own Juan Mata has predominantly played as a RW /LW in his career rather than as a no.10, and it was only one season under Benitez when he done well in that position, and for us, playing as a no.10 has been when Juan Mata has been at his worst, and that's saying something, as exemplified by his 6.75 Whoscored rating as a CAM this season.) Given that Mkhitaryan had his best ever season in the 2015/16 predominantly being deployed as a Right Forward, I would be apprehensive with saying his best position is as a CAM. One thing that is certain though, is that he's a play-maker which would complement the directness of Memphis/Martial respectively. It is often the case that teams tend to have a clinical forward, and a creative one. For instance, Neymar in the 2014/15 season was very clinical, Robben-esque type, whereas it would be Messi being the playmaker. At Bayern, during the days of "Robbery" if you will, it was Ribery who was the playmaker. Mkhitaryan comfortably topped the assist charts in the Bundesliga (leading by 5) and as far as the top 5 European leagues are concerned, only Suarez, Di Maria, Messi and Ozil assisted more.
Mkhitaryan is hard working, and a admittedly simplified way of looking at the wide players Mourinho had at his disposal, whilst managing Real Madrid would be a goal scorer on the left (Ronald) and assist machine on the right (Di Maria.) A firing on all cylinders Memphis would be a goal scoring forward. As for Martial, since we stopped playing a 4-3-3 with the point forward, where Martial was essentially playing as a left winger, the change to the 4-1-4-1 system as led to him initially being a left midfielder with the license to ghost into goal scoring areas as a left forward do, and this had led to him scoring 5 goals and 1 assist
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