Right Winger... Who do we go for?

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What's Herrmann like from Moenchengladbach?
 
Has Alexis Sanchez been mentioned in this thread? I reckon he could be tempted away from Arsenal and be deployed on our right wing . He was absolutely " electric " in that position for Udinese
 
If I remember correctly, in his last (and best) season a Udinese he played centrally
He had a lot of joy there , but Barcelona were signing him primarily for his ability to play on the right
 
Interested to see if this "Emre Mor" plays against England for Turkey today. Had never heard of him before todays snippet in the sun. Its only youtube and even from the clips on there you can see there is no end product he is nowehere near the finished article. BUT, the balance he seems to possess running with the ball at speed looks simply incredible!
 
Assuming we cannot sign players playing in team better than us... Mahrez and Sane are the best options.

What do you prefer to see on the right wing: skills (Mahrez) or pace (Sane)?
 
What is happening here? Why is Sane being mentioned so much? He hasn't been that good for Schalke and there are definitely many better options.

Are people mixing Mane and Sane?
 
What is happening here? Why is Sane being mentioned so much? He hasn't been that good for Schalke and there are definitely many better options.

Are people mixing Mane and Sane?

Like?
 
Does Mourinho not set up with one winger being more conservative?
 
Riyad Mahrez
James Rodriguez
Alexis Sanchez
Douglas Costa
Karim Bellarabi
Hulk
Antoine Griezmann
Antonio Candreva
Willian
Arda Turan
Lucas Moura
Carlos Vela
Domenico Berardi
Bernardo Silva
Kevin Volland
Hatem Ben Arfa
Yannick Bolasie
 
Does Mourinho not set up with one winger being more conservative?
Robben and Duff, Di Maria and Ronaldo. Not so conservative. :) Although he does like his players to be able to contribute defensively as well. I remember at Inter Eto'o just didn't track back at the start. He quickly learned that he needs to contribute to every part of the game if he wanted to succeed at Inter under Mourinho.
 
Robben and Duff, Di Maria and Ronaldo. Not so conservative. :) Although he does like his players to be able to contribute defensively as well. I remember at Inter Eto'o just didn't track back at the start. He quickly learned that he needs to contribute to every part of the game if he wanted to succeed at Inter under Mourinho.
We won't play like that under Mou. He knows about the legacy and will be given a warchest big enough to prevent playing underdog football like he did at Chelsea/Inter.
 
If so then Saul would fit nicely.
Dont really see it working in the prem for whole season..
Robben and Duff, Di Maria and Ronaldo. Not so conservative. :) Although he does like his players to be able to contribute defensively as well. I remember at Inter Eto'o just didn't track back at the start. He quickly learned that he needs to contribute to every part of the game if he wanted to succeed at Inter under Mourinho.
Duff and ADM.. They were both more conservative and responsible for most of the crossing as well, it's was one of reasons ADM pissed me off here.
 
Saul isn't a winger.
Yeah but he can play there can't he? Has been playing right mid a lot this season for Atletico IIRC. He is obviously not a 'winger' though but if Mourinho wants a wide player who can defend, he could be the one.

But let's pray to god we won't play with such defensively minded players in attacking positions.
 
For me, Hulk is the best option.

He's pacey, powerful, can score long shots, take on players and as a bonus, he can play up front as a striker if we need it. He's world class on his day and has proven it in the Champions League.

If that's not possible, I'd like to see the obvious "big" names... Hazard would be amazing here. James Rodriguez would slot right in but I rate him more as a CAM. Mane would be the best "cheap" alternative, he looks like a United player to me. But maybe the likes of Hermann, Schurrle, Shaqiri could be worth a shot. They are better than what we have currently.
 
For me, Hulk is the best option.

He's pacey, powerful, can score long shots, take on players and as a bonus, he can play up front as a striker if we need it. He's world class on his day and has proven it in the Champions League.

If that's not possible, I'd like to see the obvious "big" names... Hazard would be amazing here. James Rodriguez would slot right in but I rate him more as a CAM. Mane would be the best "cheap" alternative, he looks like a United player to me. But maybe the likes of Hermann, Schurrle, Shaqiri could be worth a shot. They are better than what we have currently.
Ah, finally someone who acknowledges Hulk. He has been my favourite player for years and he is the perfect inside forward. Just look at his numbers.

But it's a wet dream that is never hoing to happen. He'd be bloody expensive.
 
Karim Bellarabi
Carlos Vela
Domenico Berardi
Bernardo Silva
Kevin Volland
Yannick Bolasie
Antonio Candreva

Those aren't better than him or wouldn't improve us. Berardi is probably as talented, but had an underwhelming season (Sane's wasn't that good either). Bellarabi works for Leverkusen, but wouldn't cut it for a club, where there's more pressure IMO. Based on last season Candreva was worse.

Alexis Sanchez
Douglas Costa
Antoine Griezmann
Willian
Arda Turan
Lucas Moura

Probably not available. Which leaves:

Riyad Mahrez
James Rodriguez
Hulk
Hatem Ben Arfa

Can't say I'm keen on Ben Arfa or Hulk. James is at his best as #10, but works on the right. Mahrez is probably the best option, otherwise you have to look to younger players with talent. I won't pretend I watch everyone on that list regularly, just the impression I had, when I saw them and looking at their stats compared to Sane's.
 
Ah, finally someone who acknowledges Hulk. He has been my favourite player for years and he is the perfect inside forward. Just look at his numbers.

But it's a wet dream that is never hoing to happen. He'd be bloody expensive.

a front 3 of Martial-Rashford-Hulk would be a force to reckon with. Rival defenders would need to be on their toes for 90 minutes running after this guys.

but yeah, way too expensive. Martial-Zlatan-Rashford could work as well.
 
Yeah but he can play there can't he? Has been playing right mid a lot this season for Atletico IIRC. He is obviously not a 'winger' though but if Mourinho wants a wide player who can defend, he could be the one.

But let's pray to god we won't play with such defensively minded players in attacking positions.

Saul and Koke are more LCM and RCM than wingers because more often than not Atletico plays with 3 CMs in midfield while the fourth player runs on a side. Their real winger is Carrasco when he is on the field he plays like a winger, the others are hybrids.
 
Riyad Mahrez
James Rodriguez
Alexis Sanchez
Douglas Costa
Karim Bellarabi
Hulk
Antoine Griezmann
Antonio Candreva
Willian
Arda Turan
Lucas Moura
Carlos Vela
Domenico Berardi
Bernardo Silva
Kevin Volland
Hatem Ben Arfa
Yannick Bolasie

Few of them aren't options this summer unfortunately.
 
We won't play like that under Mou. He knows about the legacy and will be given a warchest big enough to prevent playing underdog football like he did at Chelsea/Inter.
SAF used to with Giggs and Beckham. Don't confuse the players ability and their instructions. It's quite common in football, one wide player being more advance and the other in the second row.
 
Yeah but he can play there can't he? Has been playing right mid a lot this season for Atletico IIRC. He is obviously not a 'winger' though but if Mourinho wants a wide player who can defend, he could be the one.

But let's pray to god we won't play with such defensively minded players in attacking positions.

When has Mourinho ever used that kind of player in a wide role? Maybe Pandev at Inter? Mostly though from Willian and Hazard, back to Duff and Robben, Mourinho has preferred pace and power in wide areas.

Yes he likes his wide players to work back, but he likes countering with pace and you can't do that with converted centre midfielders.
 
For me, Hulk is the best option.

He's pacey, powerful, can score long shots, take on players and as a bonus, he can play up front as a striker if we need it. He's world class on his day and has proven it in the Champions League.

If that's not possible, I'd like to see the obvious "big" names... Hazard would be amazing here. James Rodriguez would slot right in but I rate him more as a CAM. Mane would be the best "cheap" alternative, he looks like a United player to me. But maybe the likes of Hermann, Schurrle, Shaqiri could be worth a shot. They are better than what we have currently.

Ah, finally someone who acknowledges Hulk. He has been my favourite player for years and he is the perfect inside forward. Just look at his numbers.

But it's a wet dream that is never hoing to happen. He'd be bloody expensive.

Hulk is at his best when he is not restricted to one role - in Zenit he is a free-roaming support striker with an absolute freedom. He has some amazing stats this season, even considering the dip of form when Zenit refused to sell him to China.

But when he is forced to play on a wing he is pretty average - look at his NT performances for example.

And yeah, he is bloody expensive.
 
a front 3 of Martial-Rashford-Hulk would be a force to reckon with. Rival defenders would need to be on their toes for 90 minutes running after this guys.

but yeah, way too expensive. Martial-Zlatan-Rashford could work as well.
I think Rashford is a bit of a waste on the wing.
When has Mourinho ever used that kind of player in a wide role? Maybe Pandev at Inter? Mostly though from Willian and Hazard, back to Duff and Robben, Mourinho has preferred pace and power in wide areas.

Yes he likes his wide players to work back, but he likes countering with pace and you can't do that with converted centre midfielders.
Willian.

Obviously he wants his wide players to be good attackers as well, but Willian is a really defensive winger. Look at his latest Chelsea side. Every fecking player were defensively minded except for Hazard and Costa. Prime example is the disgusting Oscar who is bang average in everything besides tracking back.

Saul is a deep lying central midfielder I know, and I wasn't being serious in my suggestion of us playing him on the right wing, I'm not mental. I just mentioned him as he'd be a perfect fit in a wide role in a Chelsea&Mou side.
 
Any Dutch league followers - How was Anwar El Ghazi’s season? Seems to have started the season well, scoring 8 goals in the first 9 league games, made the full international debut in October, too. An injury mid-season, only 3 more goals after that. A tall, young & relatively cheap winger, scored 11 goals total for Ajax in the Eredivisie. Oh and a client on Mendes.
 
I think Rashford is a bit of a waste on the wing.

Willian.

Obviously he wants his wide players to be good attackers as well, but Willian is a really defensive winger. Look at his latest Chelsea side. Every fecking player were defensively minded except for Hazard and Costa. Prime example is the disgusting Oscar who is bang average in everything besides tracking back.

Saul is a deep lying central midfielder I know, and I wasn't being serious in my suggestion of us playing him on the right wing, I'm not mental. I just mentioned him as he'd be a perfect fit in a wide role in a Chelsea&Mou side.

Willian isn't "really" defensive, he is really good offensively but also happened to be good and disciplined defensively.
 
Hulk is at his best when he is not restricted to one role - in Zenit he is a free-roaming support striker with an absolute freedom. He has some amazing stats this season, even considering the dip of form when Zenit refused to sell him to China.

But when he is forced to play on a wing he is pretty average - look at his NT performances for example.

And yeah, he is bloody expensive.
Not really, he was superb on the wing for Porto.

His bad NT performances is first of all a bit exaggerated, as he didn't have a very good world cup, but I remember how good he actually was for Brazil in the two games before they met Germany. He did everything but score, which was mostly due to poor luck and insane GK performances.
 
I mean I'm sure Rashford won't be complaining if he gets a shot in the wing rather than the bench. We also haven't seen him play there much I actually think his attributes currently make him better suited to the wing then ups top.
 
I mean I'm sure Rashford won't be complaining if he gets a shot in the wing rather than the bench. We also haven't seen him play there much I actually think his attributes currently make him better suited to the wing then ups top.

I think this will depend a lot on whether he is playing on the right of a front 3, where he and Martial are encouraged to come inside and support the centre forward while the full backs provide the width; or if he is playing as a more traditional winger.

I don't see the traditional winger role getting the best out of Rashford. He could probably do a job there, but it hardly the best way to nurture his talent.
 
Is there any player out there remotely similar to Willian? Because he is the perfect right winger for us.
 
You never know. I've seen Van Persie sign for United, which was more surrealistic than what any of those would be.

Well, I meant considering Volland has already signed for a new club this summer.
 
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