Sachin looked a lost soul against Shoiab...never seen a batsman hit so many times.
Right then, Pak v India
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Lara is better than Tendulkar.
I'm better than Tendulkar.
I would've hit Shoaib for six every ball.
I would've hit Shoaib for six every ball.
Dunno *** Hindu PaksitanisPlechazunga said:
As far as Muslim in India goes, a minority still feels they should have left for Pakistan in 1947 and hence support Pakistan. As Sultan said mostly the illiterate.
He is well and truly in twilight of his career. Has played cricket for about 16 years now and played during one the most busiest schedule of cricket in late 90's till now.Sultan said:
Probably will call it off after 2007 WC.
The best hat-trick I have ever seen today. Classy swing bowling...
Who's signing him as their overseas player next year in England ?
Who's signing him as their overseas player next year in England ?
Bendulkar
Brilliant.
I was pretty pleased with it I must say
amolbhatia100 said:fecking shit.. i could not be more pissed off.. after all the wonderful work done by Pathan early on.. these retards have thrown it away.. some really awful batting.. and gutless cricket.. A chance to take the advantage in the series decider and they come up with that appauling display..
Once again our hopes rest on the youngsters Dhoni and Pathan to save us.. a loss to Pakistan here is just going to be unbarable.
Retards? Surely not. Here's what crappyperson had to say about some of these 'retards' in this very thread:
Yes average increasing pitch indeed
Why don't you go and check the record of likes of Dravid, Sachin and Sehwag away from home in Australia, SA , England etc.
Great hattrick by Pathan, I take my hat off to him. Getting 5 wickets is also a great achievement in any cricket.
However, Waqar (yes listen to Waqar, now there was a genius!) said that Pathan is great with the new ball on a bowler assisted pitch but he needs to add variation to survive on flatter pitches. I agree with him.
I also think Pathan is a precocious talent that will be wasted in batting if he doesn't stop being an all-rounder and starts concentrating on his bowling full-time, i.e. starts to bowl faster again and varies his deliveries.
As much as I'm a Pakistani fan, I am also a cricket fan and love to see talent come out and flower in this sport. Maybe that's why I'm being harsher with Pathan than any other bowler.
However, Waqar (yes listen to Waqar, now there was a genius!) said that Pathan is great with the new ball on a bowler assisted pitch but he needs to add variation to survive on flatter pitches. I agree with him.
I also think Pathan is a precocious talent that will be wasted in batting if he doesn't stop being an all-rounder and starts concentrating on his bowling full-time, i.e. starts to bowl faster again and varies his deliveries.
As much as I'm a Pakistani fan, I am also a cricket fan and love to see talent come out and flower in this sport. Maybe that's why I'm being harsher with Pathan than any other bowler.
wow you showed me eh?Dumpstar said:Retards? Surely not. Here's what crappyperson had to say about some of these 'retards' in this very thread:
Yes average increasing pitch indeed
Why don't you go and check the record of likes of Dravid, Sachin and Sehwag away from home in Australia, SA , England etc.
crappycraperson said:
Just don't go jinxing your players again, is all.
True.. but people have to realise hes just 21, i think. On pitches that have something for the pace bowlers hes quite awesome.. he isnt as effective when the ball isnt doing much, but hel learn.. hopefully hel get a little faster and with experience learn the art of swing bowling more.. but TBH hes getting better and better as a batsman.. and its hard for a supporter of Indian cricket to critisize someone like him.. doing so much and at the heart of really everything we do.Dumpstar said:
That hatrick was phenominal, great way to silence critics, but sadly it looks like we may well have thrown away the advantage he gave us in this test.
Why is his age of 21 used as an excuse by Indians over and over again? He was only 18/19 when he first came on the scene and he was actually BETTER than he is at 21!!! So at this rate, he won't improve by 24, he'll be even slower and less effective.
The only way he can improve is by going back to his daal-roti. He must concentrate on his bowling again and if he has some spare time after his bowling practice to get some batting in....he should do some more bowling instead!
He was only 18/19 when he first came on the scene and he was actually BETTER than he is at 21!!! So at this rate, he won't improve by 24, he'll be even slower and less effective.The only way he can improve is by going back to his daal-roti. He must concentrate on his bowling again and if he has some spare time after his bowling practice to get some batting in....he should do some more bowling instead!
I was puzzled by your statements so I went and had a look at the stats and guess what, I found out you were talking crap. Pathan's played 20 tests before the Karachi test. I'm removing the Pak tests because they were pointless so before that he'd played 18
After his first 9 tests, his bowling record was
Overs Runs Wickets Best Ave 5 10
326 961 32 6/51 30.03 2 1
After 18 tests, his bowling record was
Overs Runs Wickets Best Ave 5 10
604.1 1908 73 7/59 26.13 6 2
So for his second 9 tests, his record has been
Overs Runs Wickets Best Ave 5 10
288.1 947 41 7/59 23.09 4 1
Tremendous by any standards. He's actually improving, not declining. So how about you adjust your opinions to the facts?
After his first 9 tests, his bowling record was
Overs Runs Wickets Best Ave 5 10
326 961 32 6/51 30.03 2 1
After 18 tests, his bowling record was
Overs Runs Wickets Best Ave 5 10
604.1 1908 73 7/59 26.13 6 2
So for his second 9 tests, his record has been
Overs Runs Wickets Best Ave 5 10
288.1 947 41 7/59 23.09 4 1
Tremendous by any standards. He's actually improving, not declining. So how about you adjust your opinions to the facts?
crappycraperson said:
hahahaha, calm down son, are you trying to deny these players dont play on shitty average improving wickets after the first two tests?!?!?!
feckin gangully and the rest of them have averages way above 40 some in the 50's who are nothing more than decent players....why? because they playing on shitty wickets always!......dravid is class no doubt, i never said he isnt.....but i mean when you playing alot of games in india, pakistan and sri lanka, no to mention bagladesh, your averages will look pretty good!
by the way, im pretty sure pakistan as a team are better away from the subcontinent than india.....but than again they are the better team, even though some of their batsmen are shocking..........
gotta give it to pathan he did very well in this match though
whos gonna win in the india vd england series?.....c'mon england!!
whos gonna win in the india vd england series?.....c'mon england!!
Dravid and Tendulkar both average above 50 away from the subcontinent ie playing on piches in Australia, England, SA etc.UNITED_OG said:
Ganguly is shite.
Sehwag is class but still has to prove himself on bouncy wickets.
Laxmax is incosistent, he has perfomed very well in Australia and England though.
I am not sure what point you are trying to make emphazing "average increasing pitches" everytime?
BTW England don't have a chance.
u reckon? i think engand will prove to be a real test for india......im bettin the series will be a draw.....but if theirs gonna be a winner, i think it wil be england
Away from home Pakistan is indeed better than India but that's because of the wealth of bowling talent we keep producing. Bowlers win you games.
As for England v India, I can only see India winning this one on Indian tracks. England STILL do not know how to play spin or the 'slower ball'. That will cost them again.
As for England v India, I can only see India winning this one on Indian tracks. England STILL do not know how to play spin or the 'slower ball'. That will cost them again.
Red-Indian said:
What source did you use for these numbers?
I said average of over 28 because I saw it on ARY Digital this morning. And here are the stats from Cricinfo (though it may be before the Pakistani series):
http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/india/content/player/32685.html
UNITED_OG said:
UNITED_OG said:
Go watch some cricket before you shoot your mouth off on it.
What an idiot.If you want to check the batting averages of Sehwag Dravid Laxman and Tendulkar outside the subcontinent you're most welcome to.
Ganguly is and has been shit for quite a bit.He was in the team solely because of his leadership earlier and would've been chucked out of the team much earlier, captain or not, if he were playing for Australia.
Again, I suggest you try watching some cricket.
Maybe in the past, but in recent times Pakistan have been awful away from home i think.. i want to see the stats of this, if you can find them. But atleast wev gone to Australia, gotten a draw, in the end looking like the only team that could win it.. got a draw in England, and beat Pakistan in Pakistan. Dont remember Pakistan doing anythng of significance away from home in ages.. maybe im wrong..Dumpstar said:
UNITED_OG said:
India 2-0
Pakistan should declare after the first session tomorrow.
Pakistan on top taking two early wickets...,,,
Shoaib.... the clever cheating chucker.... He spastic action often gets way unnoticed. He should be banned.
I will dedicate a separate thread for his pyrotechniques when I less preoccupied
Shoaib.... the clever cheating chucker.... He spastic action often gets way unnoticed. He should be banned.
I will dedicate a separate thread for his pyrotechniques when I less preoccupied
Well they'll wrap this up now..
vijay said:
Have a read of the cricinfo article on the website right now. Fool.
He'd pass the current 15 degree test no problems!
nealn said:
England 3-0.
Easy.
Well done India.
Another away series bottled.
Another away series bottled.
Congratulations Pakistan, clearly the better team won.
Slabber said:
I've started a thread Slabbs.
Go for it.
you too and all, Sheikh Dubs.
DONADO said:
Go watch some cricket before you shoot your mouth off on it.
What an idiot.If you want to check the batting averages of Sehwag Dravid Laxman and Tendulkar outside the subcontinent you're most welcome to.
Ganguly is and has been shit for quite a bit.He was in the team solely because of his leadership earlier and would've been chucked out of the team much earlier, captain or not, if he were playing for Australia.
Again, I suggest you try watching some cricket.
shutup dude, i got more cricket knowledge in my testicals than u will ever have........indians gettin the panties in a twist now that pakistan won...i never said anything bad about indian batsmen dravid or tendulkar, both are class..though lara is better than both, i jus said, indian batsmen aswell as pakistan and srilankan are way overrated simply cuz they play on so many shitty wickets, now go cry thinking shoaib throws the ball
Congrats Pakistan
Absolute rubbish.. Indian pitches in the last 5 years or so have usually produced results, unlike these sub standard pitches wev seen in Pakistan.UNITED_OG said:
is not pakistan the subcontinent lasttime i checked???
and?UNITED_OG said: