You're doing a pretty good job of acting daft you know...I hope you actually aren't like that really.I'd hate to be your parent or close relative...no fecking brains.UNITED_OG said:
feck off.
Right then, Pak v India
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feck off.
amolbhatia100 said:
England dream of batting haven pitches in Pakistan.
But don't let facts get in they way of your stand-up routine, you're doing good.
Before this test thread dies its natural death, I think its only right to go out with a song:
We are the champions my friends,
And we'll keep on fighting 'til the end,
'Cos we are the champions, we are the champions,
No time for losers,
'Cos we are the champions........
......of the worlllllldddd!
I thank you. :takesabow:
We are the champions my friends,
And we'll keep on fighting 'til the end,
'Cos we are the champions, we are the champions,
No time for losers,
'Cos we are the champions........
......of the worlllllldddd!
I thank you. :takesabow:
Dumpstar said:
Or at least the subcontinent.
Dumpstar said:
A couple series wins at home on rubbish pitches.. you should be proud!
Proud? Proud doesn't describe the half of it mate.
I'M EFFING ECSTATIC!!!
I'M EFFING ECSTATIC!!!
Now you know what we felt beating you last time around..Dumpstar said:Proud? Proud doesn't describe the half of it mate.
I'M EFFING ECSTATIC!!!
Except that we beat you in your own back yard and all three tests had result oriented pitches.
Every one of your post is becoming more bitter than the previous. This is what rivalry is all about.
I'm loving it.
I'm loving it.
Dumpstar said:Every one of your post is becoming more bitter than the previous. This is what rivalry is all about.
I'm loving it.
I hinted that much when they started having a go at Shoaib, the English did not complain about his action, nor for that matter any Indian posters when Shoaib had a great series against England.
Yes it was only brought to light by Chappel. He was daft to bring it up after the series loss and it does look bitter. Doesn't mean it is not an issue.Sultan said:
English and Australians have been guilty of same bitterness with Murali on loads of occassions.
Infact English coach at the time when Murali took 9 wickets, rasi questions about his action during tea time only.
Chappel is a cnut anyway so I am not surprised
Funny it happened almost exactly like Inzy predicted didn't it? I don't remember the precise words but didn't he say the series would be decided in one or sessions in Karachi?
Respect to the Pakis, they outplayed us on what I thought was a pretty good pitch in Karachi but i'm not admitting defeat. The first innings showed the teams were a lot closer than the match result turned out. It would've been interesting to see 3 matches on good pitches. The question of which team's better is not answered by any means. I'm shelving it for next time.
Respect to the Pakis, they outplayed us on what I thought was a pretty good pitch in Karachi but i'm not admitting defeat. The first innings showed the teams were a lot closer than the match result turned out. It would've been interesting to see 3 matches on good pitches. The question of which team's better is not answered by any means. I'm shelving it for next time.
Red-Indian said:
I still think India are a better side talent wise, the difference being the coaches and Inzi's relaxed attitude.
Woolmer has been a revelation everywhere. what's really been different about Pakistan since Woolmer and Inzi took over is the discipline and calmness which has always been Pakistan's downfall. Inzi along with I would say Mushtaq and the now retired Saeed Anwar have gotten rid of the demons which plagued Pakistan cricket for generations.
Sultan, I don't understand how India are better talent wise when:
a) they got their a**es royally whooped, and
b) don't have a bowling lineup to scare Montgomery Burns at the crease?
If there was one Indian bowler to be afraid of, just one, then I'd say talent wise they stood somewhere near Pakistan. But even Pathan seemed more concerned with having a good batting record from this series than a bowling one! The first over hattrick was great and all that but in the overall picture meant very little.
Talent wise India had batsmen like Dravid, Sehwag and Tendulkar with Pathan and Dhoni doing apt stand ins. But Pakistan also had Younis, Yousef and Akmal coupled with Razzaq and Boom Boom.
Bowling wise India had zero talent minus some brief moments of magic from Pathan.
Pakistan beat India BECAUSE of talent as well as stickability.
a) they got their a**es royally whooped, and
b) don't have a bowling lineup to scare Montgomery Burns at the crease?
If there was one Indian bowler to be afraid of, just one, then I'd say talent wise they stood somewhere near Pakistan. But even Pathan seemed more concerned with having a good batting record from this series than a bowling one! The first over hattrick was great and all that but in the overall picture meant very little.
Talent wise India had batsmen like Dravid, Sehwag and Tendulkar with Pathan and Dhoni doing apt stand ins. But Pakistan also had Younis, Yousef and Akmal coupled with Razzaq and Boom Boom.
Bowling wise India had zero talent minus some brief moments of magic from Pathan.
Pakistan beat India BECAUSE of talent as well as stickability.
Dumpstar said:
If you analyze each player from the two teams in their respective positions I would have to choose more Indian players to take the plaudits. I would not base my opinions on the last series as Pakistan only got better of India for two days out of fifteen.
Pakistan beat India granted...but talent is not the only criteria for being successful, you just need to look back at the European champions trophy last year to realise that.
What the hell are you on about?? As iv already said, i started that thread thread just to start a discussion on Chucking. And i included Harbhajan as well, so i wasnt targetting Shoaib or anything.Sultan said:
This my friend is called jumping to conlusions. When did we have out 'asses whoooped'? lol.. You prepared two rubbish pitches, so we actually lost a one off test match, im which you did play very well, but it can happen to any team.Dumpstar said:
Again question are raised against Pathan. A young 21 year old takes a fecking hat trick on his rival teams soil in the very first over, in the series decider, and eventually a 5 wicket hall. That was just as magical as things get.. we didnt build upon what Pathan gave us and suffered the consequenses. For all his hype Shoaib didnt do anything close to that in the final test.
As for talent, IMO were better, but that debate is pointless. I think we have technically and from a talent point of view, a far far superior batting line up. And theres little to choose between the bowling attacks. You have to consider the fact that on turning tracks wed easily be favourates. Spinners DO exist.
amolbhatia100 said:
You lost away from home. Again.
So did you.Slabber said:
amolbhatia100 said:
We've won some series away from home. South Africa last winter. The West Indies too.
Wel do that soon.. no doubt wev been terrible away from home always.. it has been getting better of late and im confident wel soon break the jinx. But then again, we have been better at home over the years than England.Slabber said:
amolbhatia100 said:
You're not good enough. . . away from cheating spinning wickets.
Spoony said:
Yes Our overseas record was rubbish under Azharuddin. But after Ganguly took over the overseas record has improved a lot. We were the first team not to lose against Australia in their own backyard and beat them 2-1 on genuine wickets. Last time when India toured England it was 1-1 draw with India dominating the series and 1-0 win at home.
Except for some featherbeds prepared in some parts of the subcontinent also to some extent in Sydney/Trent Bridge/CapeTown/Antigua/Auckland the vast majority of wickets are result oriented.
Minefields or the seaming tracks in England or the green tops or the once lightning fast wicket in WACA... what ever it may be - they generally test the fortitude of batters/bowlers across different conditions. It makes cricket a sport of glorious uncertainities. Cheating spinning wickets.....
. There is no text book definition for an ideal wicket. Its up to the players to apply themselves and earn their runs or wicketsvijay said:Yes Our overseas record was rubbish under Azharuddin. But after Ganguly took over the overseas record has improved a lot. We were the first team not to lose against Australia in their own backyard and beat them 2-1 on genuine wickets. Last time when India toured England it was 1-1 draw with India dominating the series and 1-0 win at home.
Except for some featherbeds prepared in some parts of the subcontinent also to some extent in Sydney/Trent Bridge/CapeTown/Antigua/Auckland the vast majority of wickets are result oriented.
Minefields or the seaming tracks in England or the green tops or the once lightning fast wicket in WACA... what ever it may be - they generally test the fortitude of batters/bowlers across different conditions. It makes cricket a sport of glorious uncertainities. Cheating spinning wickets.....
Vijay...class post mate.