Richard Dunne
Richard Dunne...
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Who? Kolo Toure? Andy O'Brien?
Nah we could do better than them too.
On a serious note Thomas Dunne would make my team of the year I'd have put him with Thomas Vermaelen, but I think Terry will probably nudge into the back four particular if Vermaelen is out for a sustained spell.
The little guy, whatshisface, Smalling is it.
With all due respect comparing Smalling to Dunne at this stage is like comparing Nani to Cristiano Ronaldo.
Had him in my fantasy team all season and he's bagged me a shedload of points. Good job, Richard Dunne
Which actually happens quite often but yeah it's silly to do so
Roger Johnson has been better than both of them.
It really isn't.
Nani is a good player whereas Cristiano is world class, Dunne is merely a good player as opposed Smalling who is unproven at this level.
The step up from good player to world class is a huge one, the step up from unproven to good is alot less steep.
So now you're comparing Nani to... Dunne?
You think Smalling could reach Dunne's level in one season then?
So now you're comparing Nani to... Dunne?
No mate, you need to learn to read. Allow me to simplify it for you.
You compared Nani and Ronaldo and likened that to comparing Dunne and Smalling, Iam telling you that there is a big difference between comparing a world class player(Ronaldo) to a Good player(Nani) and comparing a Good player(dunne) to a unproven one in Smalling.
In other words Cristiano is streets ahead of Nani whereas Dunne is clearly better than Smalling but not by the same margin.
You think Smalling could reach Dunne's level in one season then?
No seeing as a young player does not become proven at premiership level over the space of a season. I would say that if Smalling could hold a place in our starting lineup for 2 seasons or so then he should be somewhere near Dunne's level. However I'm not expecting that to happen for quite sometime and that wasn't my point.
You may not hold Dunne as world class, but Vidic IS World Class, and frankly Dunne in my opinion, is closer to Vidic's level than he is to Smalling's level at the moment. I think if Vidic goes and Smalling is expected to replace him, we'll see a lot of centreback rotation at United next season. Not that Dunne is a realistic alternative, he's probably worth a lot more than £12 million to Villa at the moment.
By the way you called Nani good, Dunne good ... that's a comparison of how I read the word "good" means to you.
You've REALLY got a issues over the Smalling signing, haven't you?
Moreso with Vidic going, he's "Dunne minus pace" after all!
Rio, Vidic, Vermaelen, Kompany, Terry, Carvalho. They are the benchmark.
how the feck did wenger get a class 24 year old CB with superb pace for 10 million euro? i like the potential of smalling however. (hope he makes us forget about ever having pique on our books).
How? Dunne is "old", Smalling is "young." Nani and Ronaldo are a couple years a part. More like comparing Nani to Giggs. The real difference is experience.
Probably a more accurate comparison.
Dunne's performance today - fantastic, he should be in the team of the year at the moment.
Such a great defender.
Such a great defender.
Dunne is twice the player they are
But he isn't as comfortable on the ball or as competent a passer so he's a level below them.
In his mind at least.
That's where you come across as mental.
Vidic is still at the club. Blaming Smalling for his (alleged) departure is spastic in the extreme.
As Im currently pissed Im gona take a moment and appreciate to my mind the real Irish Captain. Easily one of the signings of the season and based on current form one of best defenders in england.
As a player and a captain hes a massive loss to City. As a centre half in terms of bravery I think he's as good as it gets. A leader whos development over the years has been remarkable. From humble beginings at home farm, his formative years at Everton winning a youth cup and his subsquent development at Man City. Their player of the year 4 times in 8 years tells its own story.
Under Hughes Dunne he suffered somewhat, his last 18 months were very underwhelminging. Not a big fan of O Neill personally but his faith in him has been richly rewarded.
As a player and a captain hes a massive loss to City. As a centre half in terms of bravery I think he's as good as it gets. A leader whos development over the years has been remarkable. From humble beginings at home farm, his formative years at Everton winning a youth cup and his subsquent development at Man City. Their player of the year 4 times in 8 years tells its own story.
Under Hughes Dunne he suffered somewhat, his last 18 months were very underwhelminging. Not a big fan of O Neill personally but his faith in him has been richly rewarded.
Villa don't concede many with Cuellar, Dunne and Collins especially hard to get past.
i forgot about pique. and i dont miss him.
now when we have evans and we know what is he capable of, i cant think of a better cb at his age.
Villa's defence is tough that's for sure
I must admit to feeling pleased when Collins got clattered.
Villa have the most in form central defence in the league.
Villa have the most in form central defence in the league.
I don't think there's enough between Pique and Evans to say who's better.
Pique was never gona make it at United. Listening to him speak about his time with us he was always gona leave. A Barca lad through and through. Speaks very highly about United though.
Both players are arguably the most promising centre halfs around at the moment.
Can someone jinx him again, he's become one of the best defenders in the league again.
'twill be a great matchup between the Villa defence and Rooney.
He'll find them a completely different proposition to Arsenal's short-arses, that's for sure.
Anyone else notice that he took advantage of Gallas' shitness in the air by hanging out on his side of the pitch? There's no such obvious aerial weak link in Collins and Dunne.
Pique never convinced in a United shirt, whereas Evans took his chance when it came my way.
I've been surprised at how well he's done at Barca - but I'm going to go out on a limb and say that his performance has been inflated by being in an absolutely exceptional side. Good player, though.
I always thought he was a bit too slow and pondersome to really make a big impression in our side.
Yeah, he won't be getting any change out of them aerially. The signings Villa have made in the defensive area have been brilliant. Aren't they the most parsimonious backline in the league? Great achievement.
Nearly as great as squeezing the word 'parsimonious' into this thread.
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