Maybe LVG may think his best position is at CB?
Absolutely agreeSeems we have too many experts on here writing off signing a player as it doesn't make sense to them!
As we don't know what the boss plans for systems & utilisation of players, is it really wise to oppose moves? I can't see any negative in signing a quality player, if the boss has an identified role for him in the squad & it works, what's the issue?
Ricardo is no CB at allAbsolutely agree
I have a feeling he will play CB if he arrives.
Alaba was no LB either and Schweinsteiger wasn't a cm but LVG thought they were.Ricardo is no CB at all
He excells in going forward and crossing the ball, wouldn't be smart move to put him at CB.Alaba was no LB either and Schweinsteiger wasn't a cm but LVG thought they were.
We need a CB who is good at bringing the ball out of defence, maybe he will excell there aswell. I'll leave that to LVG to sort out if we sign him.He excells in going forward and crossing the ball, wouldn't be smart move to put him at CB.
Evans is better at playing the ball out of defence than Rodriguez.We need a CB who is good at bringing the ball out of defence, maybe he will excell there aswell. I'll leave that to LVG to sort out if we sign him.
Evans is not bad technically but Rodriguez has a higher ceiling.Evans is better at playing the ball out of defence than Rodriguez.
In terms of running with the ball, yeah, but that isn't a priority. Evans is very good at passing and he has been our best defender when it comes to reading the game for the last 2 years, he's no Hummels, but he can certainly be classified as a good ball-playing-defender.Evans is not bad technically but Rodriguez has a higher ceiling.
I agree with your assessment on EvansIn terms of running with the ball, yeah, but that isn't a priority. Evans is very good at passing and he has been our best defender when it comes to reading the game for the last 2 years, he's no Hummels, but he can certainly be classified as a good ball-playing-defender.
Should LVG really think about buying Rodriguez, it would make more sense to play Shaw at CB IMO, he's better at headers, tackling and man-marking than Rodriguez, while Rodriguez is the better Wing-Back.I agree with your assessment on Evans
To be honest with you I haven't seen too much of Shaw but you may have a point.Should LVG really think about buying Rodriguez, it would make more sense to play Shaw at CB IMO, he's better at headers, tackling and man-marking than Rodriguez, while Rodriguez is the better Wing-Back.
Should LVG really think about buying Rodriguez, it would make more sense to play Shaw at CB IMO, he's better at headers, tackling and man-marking than Rodriguez, while Rodriguez is the better Wing-Back.
Anyone who thinks Shaw would be the one converted to a winger if we also had Rodriguez has clearly seen Shaw (or indeed Rodriguez) play. In fact the number of people suggesting a Bale-like switch to winger for Shaw makes me worried that a lot of people are going to be a bit disappointed when they see him play.
Shaw is by no means poor going forward but he is an extremely solid defender first and foremost, who needs to develop his attacking game big time in the next few years. I'm not sure has he any assists at all yet in his career. I worry that people think he's going to be bombing forward in the machine-like way Evra has done for years, when in fact they are entirely different players.
He's definitely not small. My mate had a photo with him and he is approx 6'1/6'2 and Shaw was the same height. I know what you mean though he seem's smaller than he is, not sure why.It's hard to imagine Shaw as a central defender to be honest, he looks quite short out on the pitch, according to wiki he's 6'1 though.
I didn't mean it as a criticism at all. But, you just know there are going to be morons who've never seen him play who'll be getting in a panic when they realise we haven't signed Roberto Carlos after his first game.True but being that good a defender at 19 is a great base to develop your attacking instinct, while if a young full back is a defensive liability but excels going forward then they'll be left out for big games which holds back their growth.
Imagine signing a left back with top class potential and playing him at centre back?
Laughable. Imagine the idiot that does that.
No. He didn't buy him to play him at right-back. Try again mate.Essentially the vice versa of what Fergie did with Smalling then.
No. He didn't buy him to play him at right-back. Try again mate.
It's pretty obvious what he meant. Playing a CB at FB, vs playing a FB at CB.No. He didn't buy him to play him at right-back. Try again mate.
Yes but you know what I meant. Some are talking about buying Rodriguez to play him at centre-back. It's different to filling at centre-back if someone is injured.That's not what you said.
It's also pretty obvious what I meant when I said buying a left-back to play him at centre-back.It's pretty obvious what he meant. Playing a CB at FB, vs playing a FB at CB.
Exactly. It's not very hard to understand.Smalling wasn't signed to play at full-back. He played there because we had better options in his preferred position and our first-choice RB was unavailable/injured/out of form. Not really the same thing.
Smalling wasn't signed to play at full-back. He played there because we had better options in his preferred position and our first-choice RB was unavailable/injured/out of form. Not really the same thing.
I guess you're not familiar with Van Gaal then?Imagine signing a left back with top class potential and playing him at centre back?
Laughable. Imagine the idiot that does that.
I guess you're not familiar with Van Gaal then?
Exactly. People better get used to seeing players playing in all sorts of positions they never though possible. Playing a young left back who's defensively sound, well built and comfortable on the ball as an LCb in a back three is way down the list in terms of innovation for LVG. He has converted the likes of Reizeger, Albert Ferrer and as recently as last night, Daley Blind to similar roles.
While this might be true, people assuming he'll convert Shaw to any other position need to take a step back.
He's probably seen little of him, and of course hasn't worked with him yet so I'm not sure how likely it is he has decided "I'll play him elsewhere". It will surely depend on the players skill set whether he can adapt, and obviously whether moving him from his best position is best for the team.
That is absolutely ridiculous. Shaw as a centre half? Must be muppet season.-----------------de gea----------------
--smalling/jones---evans----shaw-----
rafael-----herrera-------carrick-----rodriguez
-------------------mata--------------
----------rooney----------van persie----
might look something like this, does this look okay to you guys?
granted if we didn't sign another CM which certainly we still should.
Nobody is assuming anything but if we are in for Rodriguez, who is young andf currently the better fulback then its not outrageous to think LVG (a manager who has a long history of pconverting players from the new position) would look at playing Shaw (a player with all the attrributes to be a LCB) in a diferent position.
