The new Heinze-Evra partnership maybe? That didn't end too well though.
Ricardo Rodriguez
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
Maybe Van Gaal wants Rodriguez to be his wing back on the left side, he'd more more suited to it with his superior attacking abilities (I think Shaw had 1 assist all season). Shaw could learn a new position of wing back in Carling Cup and when Rod is rested.
We won't have spent £27m on Shaw and given him £100k p/w to sit on the bench.
Rodríguez is a great talent, but why are people so keen to downplay Shaw? It seems to be popular to dislike the English players, regardless of their ability. Shaw is 3 years younger and also hugely impressive.
Wouldn't have thought that it's so hard for United fans to accept that many players are not as romantic but just after trophies.
Rodriguez stated countless times that he wants to play CL now, not just in the future.
Offers from such clubs are reported.
Wolfsburg has shitloads of money. He has no exit clause.
Sounds a like a very realistic deal ...
You would think that but £100k a week isn't a whole lot, we're already paying the likes of Young and Fellaini that and we don't expect them to start every game.
He's still a young boy who will need time to adapt to the club and to Van Gaal's preferred formation if we try the 3-4-3 wing backs.
The fee is no great concern, we stopped him joining any of the clubs ahead of us and we have him signed up for 5 years.
No he won't. Wolfsburg have a lot of money behind them, he's one of the brightest left back prospects around as is coming off the back of a good World Cup aswell as a great season. No way would they sell him for £10m.
Well it is, not all of our squad players are on anywhere near that, DDG who's one of our best players isn't even on that. Rodriguez is only 21, is Shaw gonna be happy playing back up to him for years? No.
3-4-3 isn't LvG's preferred formation at all, the only reason he's using it at Holland is because he has no natural left back. It's unlikely we'll play that going off what we know.
Maybe he simply wants to double-up on each side in a 3-5-2 or 3-4-3 where the strains on our wide players will be big. This guy and Shaw taking turns on one side - and for instance Valencia and Rafael on the other side.
Probably not a bad idea as all 4 have a tremendous engine and all of them are significantly better going forward than defensively.
He's a great player and is better than Shaw, but he'd be a baffling signing.
Correct. IIRC, Wolfsburg paid already more about €12m for him, and that was long before RR had a single Bundesliga match under his belt.
This guy reminds me of Bale. Maybe LVG will convert him into a left winger? He definitely has more going forward than Luke Shaw, not sure about the defending part though
If he does go for this guy I'm 100% certain it'll be 352 next season with Shaw playing as the LCB.
Just like people were saying Kroos wouldn't got for £20m (which he will for around that amount to RM) and Fab would cost way more then £27m (the fee he signed for Chelsea for). When he finally leaves we shall see the transfer fee it wont be £20m I will bet it will be less.
Any concrete sources other than Allgemeine?
Would definitely be a weird one.
Would definitely be a weird one.
Kroos has 1 year left on his contract and he wasn't going to get what he wanted from Bayern so it was either sell for £20m or lose him on a free a year later, they're not similar situations at all.
Rodriguez has years left on his contract and went to Wolfsburg for £10m-ish straight from the Swiss league, after his development, the season he's had & the world cup, they're not gonna sell him for the same price they paid.
Kroos: Contract expires next year, the fee reported is 25-30 Million Euros atm.
Fabregas: He had a clause in his contract that if he leaves for a certain amount or more (33 Million or something) Arsenal would get a significant amount of that sum.
RR is a whole different story, Wolfsburg don't need to sell and they already bought him for more than 10 Million a year a go.
Sounds plausible but looks impossible, has Shaw even played at CB before? He'll be murdered there
Its my understanding they bought him for around £7.5m so maybe the 10m or so your heard is in EUROS?
Anyway I would expect they would double their money on him, which means around £15m I said £10-£15m
Will?
It's a transfer rumour.
He had a good world cup and looked a great player, but it would seem unlikely we buy him having spunked so much on Shaw.
Just seen that he was "only" 8.5 Million € apparently. But he was already bought in 2012, and he developed in a way not many expected him to.
And Wolfsburg simply don't need to sell their players, they are building up their squad to become one of the top sides in Europe. A few years a go, maybe, but now I simply can't see it unless Real comes knocking.
I'm not saying they have to sell or will sell for that matter. I was just deputing the fact he would cost £20-£25m. I think the Shaw transfer has confused everyone, he won't cost that much.
Wouldn't have thought that it's so hard for United fans to accept that many players are not as romantic but just after trophies.
Rodriguez stated countless times that he wants to play CL now, not just in the future.
Offers from such clubs are reported.
Wolfsburg has shitloads of money. He has no exit clause.
Sounds a like a very realistic deal ...
Honigstein is that you ?
Maybe LVG may think his best position is at CB?
Ducker now reporting we are interested.
Mad, Ted.
Mad, Ted.
Great player but what a strange signing this would be.
This is the article:
Manchester United are considering Ricardo Rodríguez, the Wolfsburg and Switzerland left back, as a replacement for Patrice Evra, with the Frenchman on the verge of joining Juventus.
Evra, 33, is likely to complete a move to the Italian champions within 72 hours, with United resigned to losing the defender. Juventus are thought to have bid around £1.5 million for Evra, who has been offered a two-year contract in Turin, although United are holding out for about £2 million.
Although Evra, who signed a one-year contract extension at Old Trafford in May, would be happy to remain at United, his wife, Sandra, is eager to leave Manchester and the club are loath to stand in his way given his eight and a half years at the club.
United signed Luke Shaw, the England left back, from Southampton in a £28 million deal last month, but with Fábio Da Silva having moved to Cardiff City in January and Alexander Büttner recently joining Dynamo Moscow, Evra’s impending departure will necessitate the arrival of another left back.
Rodriguez is believed to be a leading candidate to replace Evra. The 21-year-old, who joined Wolfsburg from Zurich in 2012, played in all four of Switzerland’s games at the World Cup finals in Brazil.
Evra joined United from Monaco in January 2006 and overcame a poor start to establish himself as an integral figure in the defence, helping the club to win five Barclays Premier League titles and the Champions League in 2007-08.
Evra’s imminent exit will be keenly felt and follows the departures at the end of last season of Rio Ferdinand and Nemanja Vidic, two other long standing bedrocks of the defence.
Although Shaw is expected to become the first choice left back under Louis van Gaal, the new United manager, Evra’s experience, strength of character and popularity in the dressing room are greatly valued and will be sorely missed. Van Gaal had also hoped Evra would help to smooth Shaw’s transition.
If Rodriguez follows Shaw to Old Trafford, it will leave United with two young and inexperienced left backs.
United are continuing to monitor developments surrounding Arturo Vidal, although they have so far balked at Juventus’s €45 million (£36 million) starting price for the Chile midfielder.
Manchester United are considering Ricardo Rodríguez, the Wolfsburg and Switzerland left back, as a replacement for Patrice Evra, with the Frenchman on the verge of joining Juventus.
Evra, 33, is likely to complete a move to the Italian champions within 72 hours, with United resigned to losing the defender. Juventus are thought to have bid around £1.5 million for Evra, who has been offered a two-year contract in Turin, although United are holding out for about £2 million.
Although Evra, who signed a one-year contract extension at Old Trafford in May, would be happy to remain at United, his wife, Sandra, is eager to leave Manchester and the club are loath to stand in his way given his eight and a half years at the club.
United signed Luke Shaw, the England left back, from Southampton in a £28 million deal last month, but with Fábio Da Silva having moved to Cardiff City in January and Alexander Büttner recently joining Dynamo Moscow, Evra’s impending departure will necessitate the arrival of another left back.
Rodriguez is believed to be a leading candidate to replace Evra. The 21-year-old, who joined Wolfsburg from Zurich in 2012, played in all four of Switzerland’s games at the World Cup finals in Brazil.
Evra joined United from Monaco in January 2006 and overcame a poor start to establish himself as an integral figure in the defence, helping the club to win five Barclays Premier League titles and the Champions League in 2007-08.
Evra’s imminent exit will be keenly felt and follows the departures at the end of last season of Rio Ferdinand and Nemanja Vidic, two other long standing bedrocks of the defence.
Although Shaw is expected to become the first choice left back under Louis van Gaal, the new United manager, Evra’s experience, strength of character and popularity in the dressing room are greatly valued and will be sorely missed. Van Gaal had also hoped Evra would help to smooth Shaw’s transition.
If Rodriguez follows Shaw to Old Trafford, it will leave United with two young and inexperienced left backs.
United are continuing to monitor developments surrounding Arturo Vidal, although they have so far balked at Juventus’s €45 million (£36 million) starting price for the Chile midfielder.
If we sign him then either Shaw wasn't a Van Gaal signing or Van Gaal doesn't think he's ready to be first choice.
Makes no sense to sign him. He will be surely first choice if we do and I don't think we spent so much on Shaw to have him as backup.
Surely he would have just pulled the plug on the deal then. If he doesn't think he's ready to be first choice then it would surely be better to sign a more experienced left back to start in the mean time.
If this happens, then one of them will almost certainly become a bad signing.
This would be so weird and would have made more sense to sign someone cheaper like Davies along with Rodriguez.
Don't think there's too much danger of Bayern coming in for him which they tend to do with all the best players in Germany. They've just signed Bernat and already have Alaba at their disposal.
Maybe he sees another position for him, I doubt he's going to bench Shaw after spending close to £30m on him.
Well if he doesn't think Shaw is ready to be first choice he'd hardly sign another relatively in experienced LB and go for someone else. I think if we do sign him its because Van Gaal has a place in the starting XI for both of them
Atm seems like a bizarre position for him, but in a 3-5-2 the position of a LCB isn't enitrely the same as the CB in a system with 4 at the back. If Rodriguez would be the wingback, no doubt he'd be playing quite high up, more as winger than as a back and Shaw would then take over his defensive position at the leftflank, which is similar to the defensive role of a traditional leftback.
The only issue with this is that I really don't think Shaw was worth £30m if he were to play that position, but than again I have always objected the move as £30m for an 18 year old leftback was just utter madness, no matter what spin was put on it by some of our fans.
Another alternative explanation is that he sees Rodriguez more as a winger than as back, he does seem to be really very good going forward and has most of the skills you'd be looking for in winger. He could play 4-3-3 or 3-4-3 with both these players in the team and ofcourse it offers us the flexibility of having two very good players in the team that can cover for the leftback or wingback (depends on the system he intends to play) in the team and neither of them would have to benched if both are fit. But when Shaw is injurred or suspended or whatever, you got a very good alternative for the leftback and leftwing can filled up by an other player.
I personally think LVG will have us switch between a 3-5-2 system and a 3-4-3 system next season. The role of Shaw and Rodriguez won't be iron clad but will depend on the situation and the system, both could play together, Shaw as a LB or LCB, Rodriguez as a LW or LWB and both would offer him the squad depth of having two players to fill up the defensive role on the leftside.
I dont see the point in spending £30m on a LB to then go out and spend another £15m.
Rodriguez will be Schweinsteigered by Van Gaal and be our ball playing CB. Remember you heard it here first.
Are you kidding? £100k for a 18 year old full-back is ridiculous. He's getting paid more than say Ramsey for example. I can't believe United would be willing to offer him that much, were any other teams involved that may have driven the price up?
You must be talking about another Schweinsteiger then
This guy is the absolute tits, would be weird given Shaw but if they can get it done relatively cheap (£15m-ish) and have a plan in mind, hell yes