Muppets gonna muppet.
Seems like a classic early transfer rumour to me. Not going to happen.
Renato Sanches
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Muppets gonna muppet.
Seems like a classic early transfer rumour to me. Not going to happen.
- The new Ronaldinhohttp://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...-chiefs-agree-40million-fee-with-Benfica.html
The "new Ronaldinho"
- A great box-to-box
- A replacement for Carrick
And all of that in the same article
I guess he is our first choice to replace De Gea with too.
Everyone is desperate to be the one that signs the next Neymar but I only see United being the ones getting ripped off for kids with everything to prove. Juventus, when they were stuck in the cesspit like us, managed to sign Vidal for peanuts and built a very strong team for a little more than we spent on Di Maria, Shaw, Martial and Fellaini. Even if this kid turns out to be Keane reincarnate paying £40m for him is still bad deal thay reflects poorly on those in charge.
Of course Bayern, Barcelona and Real Madrid outgun us for the absolute top players but how have Atletico competed with them when they have less money than us? The truth of the matter is that those three can not buy everyone and there is enough talent they haven't signed up, that doesn't interest them that can be signed. We have to face up to the fact that something is extremely wrong in the way United identify and go about acquiring players.
Some of our opponents already made their transfer moves and employed new managers.
Nothing unusual if United doing something similar. Muppet mode ON.
Nothing unusual if United doing something similar. Muppet mode ON.
When our opponents get their business done early everyone moans why we can't get thing done early, when we get business done early everyone moans about us getting ripped off and not being smart enough like our opponents.
He's the best player ever.- The new Ronaldinho
- A great box-to-box
- A replacement for Carrick
And all of that in the same article
I guess he is our first choice to replace De Gea with too.
Has Di Marzio ever been wrong when it comes to Mendes' clients?
Some might say almost every window but this Nicolas Gaitan thing is probably Mendes having too much spare time on his hands.
Basically an Edwards reincarnation (with dreadlocks)
Indeed. Much like that time I hailed an 18 year old Jonjo Shelvey as the next Jaap Stam.
Of course it wouldn't, because that would mean we'd managed to sign one of, if not the, best midfielders on the planet and would have him for over a decade, all going well. Keane himself cost a lot for his age when we signed him, as did Ronaldo, as did Rooney. Ferdinand was thought of as an absurdly expensive signing for a defender from a Leeds in financial disarray. The amount of shit written about De Gea's fee now looks absurd. If the player turns out good enough, the fee is a footnote - no-one cares.
When Shelvey broke into the Liverpool first team, I just thought to myself: "This kid is the next Duncan Castles".
- The new Ronaldinho
- A great box-to-box
- A replacement for Carrick
And all of that in the same article
I guess he is our first choice to replace De Gea with too.
Well Ronaldinho was a great box-to-box renown for his great positional and covering skills, while Carrick is obviously one of the greatest dribblers in United history, so it makes sense to compare Sanches with them.
Nice summary from this journo who covers Portugese football.
Fergie recommended signing him according to that, is he like a Director of Football or something now?
DDG as future el capitan
The money paid for Rooney and Rio then is still a lot pf money now. Correct me if I am wrong but if we pay £40m for this kid won't that be the highest fee ever paid for a CM? If not then it will be in the top three and all of that for half a season? Relative to what other clubs are paying for more established CMs ready to deliver this is a shit deal.
I dont know why many are so worried about a 40M deal (including all the perks and bonus) for a player who has been identified as a talent. Utd are super rich and are in a poor position to attract big players, given recent performances and positions in the league. So the only other option is big money and get a player.
Besides we went ahead with deals like 30M for Shaw, when he was an upcoming talent. Obviously given the crazy market in last 2 years and he being a midfielder, he will cost more.
Besides we went ahead with deals like 30M for Shaw, when he was an upcoming talent. Obviously given the crazy market in last 2 years and he being a midfielder, he will cost more.
It is only a shit deal if he doesn't deliver long term. Based on your principle, Martial was also a shit deal.
So the next Phil Jones?
The market has gone absolutely bonkers.
been bonkers for a while
Hasn't it been like that for some years now..
English players went for crazy money in PL for quite some time now. Besides City bought Mangala for 42M, PSG bought Luiz for 45 or 50M
Not for talents with potential though. Established players, especially ones in the PL, have gone for ridiculous money for a while now but 60mil or whatever it is close to that for talents is insane.
I understand where we are coming from btw. We have tried to get genuine tier 1 players in the last couple of years and failed. Think we've realised that us or the PL in general isn't as attractive anymore and certainly not attractive enough to poach players from the other top guys and as a result, we are now targeting players expected to reach that level in the coming years.
I'm glad if we sign him but...
Which CMs have cost €60m or more?
Which CMs have cost €60m or more?
Noone. It may come from the fact central midfielders are important. Noone let their prime first choice CM go. You either bet on potential or aged, or not up to task wash off. Hot prospects often attract lot of clubs. No more Pogba regret please
Should have taken the punt on Gundogan last summer. Oh well
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Lol, we might as well go for Carvalho who is going to cost nothing close to that or even Ruben Neves who's had a great season so far, but both are different players to Sanches.
Edit: Neves even has a 29m release clause. Much more gettable.
Edit: Neves even has a 29m release clause. Much more gettable.
must be a Mourinho signing then?
Pogba will.
I am basing my criticism on what our peers pay for similarly talented players. Did Atletico pay obscene amounts for Griezman, Juve for Dybala or Bayern for Coman? Its only us who are being taken to the cleaners and we both know why. We don't have enough experts in this particular field working for us and we are playing catch up due to years of underinvestment but seemingly doing it the wrong way since after spending £300m in two summers we still fighting for a top four position.
On Martial I love the player but we overpaid massively then as we are doing now. These type of deals only neutralize our financial muscle and allow the likes of Spurs to catch up and overtake us because we spend four times more on Memphis than they do on Delle Alli who is four times better.
Ruben Neves has not had a great season. He's been crap and spent most of the time on the bench.
Juve paid €44m for Dybala with only a year left on his contract. City paid €65m for Mangala after his first break out season in Portugal.
Who is a young, proven and highly rated forward then ready to contribute from the word go whilst we are paying €60m for a defensive box to box midfielder with just six months of first team action on his back.
44m is a normal price for an attacker and Mangala was the stupidest deal ever something that I said before it happens.
Does anyone think he's as talented as Pogba?
Dybala had one good season in Palermo and some on this board did not want us to spend huge amounts on him for the same exact reason you are talking about.
I am not here to argue whether we have overpaid or not. Ofcourse we have.
But you can only call a deal a bad deal after the player has spent some time playing for his new club.
No, but it doesn't mean much.
From a guy I follow on twitter who follows every single game in Portugal (not just Benfica games)
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