How come we are paying dividends then? In the quarter ending on 31 December we paid just over £4.8m i dividends to our shareholders and this is something that will continue quarterly from now on. At the end of said quarter our cash balance was £121m, add to that the income from the new TV deal and the Adidas deal and you will get an idea what kind of money we have available to spend.
Renato Sanches
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
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If Champions League is considered as a shit league then...
meant portugese league use your head
I saw him vs Bayern and that was enough to convince me. But if we were to sign him I would hope he wouldn't be our only central midfield signing. I would love Sanches and Kroos.
They don't take more money when the club don't splash it on the market, that's the bs I'm talking about, that money goes in the club bank account. As for the dividends United are a company not a charity, the club is too big for sugar daddies.
Pretty sure he won't be our only midfield signing. Carrick and Fellaini will probably go, Schweinsteiger can't be trusted. We will bring at least two in.
If the league with the 5th highest UEFA coefficient is shit then.... Just because a league isn't the best in the world doesn't mean its automatically shit then.
He played in the q-finals of CL, and held his own against Bayern at the age of 18. Use your head for a bit and you'll realize maybe he is quite good.
Ah intent, yes you might be correct on that. But I'd argue that we seriously overrated Memphis and underrated Martial's readiness. IMO he'd be a starter whether under SAF in 2004 or under LVG in 2014. So its more a case of how good he is than how shit the rest have been. A player of this calibre has to start unless you have a top player in his position. He'd start for City as well had they signed him instead of Sterling. My point was regarding quality and calibre rather than intent.
A Bola have once again said everything is in place for him to come here. Hope it doesn't go the way of Gaitan
But my point was that money in the accounts don't win you games, talented players does.
I really hope it's a done deal because I think there might be a lot of clubs interested in him come the summer. Especially if he gets playing time in the Euros.
Spending stupidly don't win you games, spending wisely and effectively does.
It gives you a better chance than not spending at all though.
Why should we not spend at all? He isn't the only player around.
PS: I would like to see him wear United's shirt.
What is this nonsense? Discriminated for age?
We paid 27m for an 18 year old Rooney in 2004, about 50m for 19 year old Martial last year. If player is that good, you go out and pay whatever it takes to get him. This is what the club has traditionally done. Who gives a flying feck if he costs big money? The entire caf thought we had spent sensibly last last summer except for Martial. Guess what? Martial was the only good buy in a sea of utter horse shit.
If Sanches is good, we go out and buy him. For 60m if that's what it takes. It's really that simple.
If we think he's the best talent, or we think he's the best talent who would fit in at the club, I don't give a flying feck how much he costs. We've got more money than anyone else in the world outside of perhaps the 2 Spanish clubs and the Qatari ones, might as well spend it rather than watch it disappear off to the states.
There are probably a lot of clubs interested but I doubt anyone is willing to pay what we seem willing to. Even the English journos say we haven't denied we are in negotiations with Benfica. I reckon it will happen.
I believe the only way for us not to overpay this summer is if we don't buy at all. We got huge amounts of money and our revenues will grove a lot in the coming years and everyone knows this. Every club with a talented player will be hoping that United will become interested in him since they know we have the most money to spend and prices will be set accordingly.
It won't matter if we are buying Sanches from Benfica, Tielemanns from Anderlecht, or any other player, the selling club will know that we are loaded with money and will ask for prices according to that.
That's not the subject of my post.
You seem to think we should only sign him if the fee is 'sensible'
What happened to old Willy Carvalho? Is he still rocking that Carlton Banks tash?
Rooney and Martial had years of professional football behind them and even Monaco said that the price was unreal, so yes in the case of Sanches we shouldn't pay 50m€, there isn't a single CM that has been sold at +50m€.
As for the second paragraph, it was about the fact that if we buy Sanches, he should be fairly judged, if he is the best option he should play.
Seems to be getting back on track from what i read on here. Of course he is.
Doesn't really matter. Martial was a fantastic buy because he's really fecking good. If Sanches is in the same boat, we should do the same for him. 50m€ isn't really all that big a deal these days especially not a club like us. Besides, this is not his first season of professional football. He played in the second division last season and the year before that as well if wiki is anything to go by.
Hopefully the club sees sense and our days of scrounging around and missing out on players are over.
It's not about scrounging, I'm saying that because you can buy Dembélé and Adama Traoré for a little bit more than that, that's what bothers me. There are players in his bracket who are half as expensive. But like I said earlier the 50m are only his clause, he could be sold for far less than that.
The comments on SerBenfiquista after the match doesn't sound promising, but it's not a surprise.
Bad game. Like I've been saying lately he needs to learn a lot defensively.
He needs to pass the ball faster.
He's lost again.
Nulity.
He lacks too many things to be a top player. But just passing the ball faster it would be an upgrade.
One of the worst players on the field.
He misplaces a lot of passes, it's infuriating.
He needs to improve a lot without the ball. He plays with intensity, runs too much and all that, but he's rarely where he needs to be.
Always the same thing, always the same mistakes.
Porto, Academica and Bayern now. 3 goals where he's looking at the ball and he doesn't cover the box well.
At this age you can fix your flaws. If he keeps doing mistakes when he passes the ball, and trying to dribble against several players, then he's never going to improve.
I don't see him during the training sessions but match after match I don't see any improvements.
http://serbenfiquista.com/forum/index.php?topic=56177.12195
So he doesn't know to defend, loses balls for fun and he's not showing improvements during these months. I think it would be better for him to stay there for one more year (at least) so he can start every week and get experience, learn about the game, start defining himself as a player and polish his first touch, this one urgently. And if he shows he can improve his weak points then we can start talking about numbers and his future role here. At the moment he's not ready for big adventures and his progress is unknown. It would be a stupid transfer on the paper unless he came for peanuts, which won't be the case.
Bad game. Like I've been saying lately he needs to learn a lot defensively.
He needs to pass the ball faster.
He's lost again.
Nulity.
He lacks too many things to be a top player. But just passing the ball faster it would be an upgrade.
One of the worst players on the field.
He misplaces a lot of passes, it's infuriating.
He needs to improve a lot without the ball. He plays with intensity, runs too much and all that, but he's rarely where he needs to be.
Always the same thing, always the same mistakes.
Porto, Academica and Bayern now. 3 goals where he's looking at the ball and he doesn't cover the box well.
At this age you can fix your flaws. If he keeps doing mistakes when he passes the ball, and trying to dribble against several players, then he's never going to improve.
I don't see him during the training sessions but match after match I don't see any improvements.
http://serbenfiquista.com/forum/index.php?topic=56177.12195
So he doesn't know to defend, loses balls for fun and he's not showing improvements during these months. I think it would be better for him to stay there for one more year (at least) so he can start every week and get experience, learn about the game, start defining himself as a player and polish his first touch, this one urgently. And if he shows he can improve his weak points then we can start talking about numbers and his future role here. At the moment he's not ready for big adventures and his progress is unknown. It would be a stupid transfer on the paper unless he came for peanuts, which won't be the case.
You only looked at the negative posts and ignored the rest?
He didn't have a good game against Bayern, probably the worst game I have seen him in and showed that he is still just a boy and not on the level of Vidal and Thiago but that doesn't mean he's not a big talent. You can't expect a 18 year old to go in against the best midfield in the game and dominate them just like that.
Having seen alot more of this kid in recent months.. I'm more in the lets take a punt option. He seems like he could potentially be quite special with the right coaching.
Yeah, a lot of posters are positive and understand that he is still developing.
I don't expect him to do a brilliant performance against Bayern, but he's not consistent in any aspect of the game. And comments like "he's lost again", "it's always the same with him", "I don't see improvements match after match" suggest me that he wasn't just bad against Bayern, but he's playing like a headless chicken many times, which has been my impression too.
To be honest all I see is a strong kid with a brave personality, running and putting effort. He asks for the ball, tries things, nobody denies his personality and his attitude is really good. But at the moment everything is yet to be built, he's not reliable in any aspect of the game. And for me it's curious how his own fans remark his weaknesses and bad matches with naturality, but then I come here and it seems we are talking about Pele or Maradona. All his games are excellent and people here is always impressed. If we were that positive with our own players this forum will be a joy to read, with all that enthusiasm and positivity.
There are lots of more positive posts in that thread on SerBenfiquista that you just ignored, in fact I'd say most people on that forum seems to think that he is a very special talent and there have been people on there even saying he might the best talent to come out of the club since Eusebio. Now I don't claim to know how good this kid will get or even to know how good he is currently but a bad game against the best midfield around doesn't really say anything about his long term future. I have seen a fair bit of him and wouldn't call him inconsistent if anything hes consistently been one of Benfica's best players this season.
Everybody is positive and understands he's still developing, even the ones who criticize him. It would be absurd to close the door to a 18 years old kid. But the flaws are there and some of them are painful to the eye. If we are going to make a big investment (and we know something about the portuguese clubs) he has to show something more, not necessarily in terms of performances, but at least showing capacity to fix his weak points and defining himself a bit more as a player, so we can mould him in the future.
If he keeps sending the ball to the stands after a first touch pass, he's permanently caught out of position and getting dispossessed in critical zones, nothing suggests he's going to change and improve during his time here. He's an undefined player who needs to learn everything yet, and personally I wouldn't spend a fortune if then we have to teach him how to cover his zone, and where you can dribble and where you can't. It would be better if he learns how to play football first, and then his agent can call us asking for a fortune if he wants. That's the logical process.
But that's not what he is doing, he just sometimes has a little problem in terms of timing offensively and defensively. And in my opinion sometimes he isn't aggressive enough in his passing.
I don't know what games you have watched him in but the player you are describing in this post is nothing like the Sanches I have watched for the last couple of months.
So you are basing this on one occurrence?
Well thats that. No doubt is this the conclusive evidence that Sanches is overrated and will never be good enough to play for United. Thank you @Phil Osophy for showing us the truth about him.
I'm asking is he good or is he one of the many players in the last number of years to look good in portugal, the papers are quoting 40-50m, and then nothing happens and they fade out to just being a portugal level player
Like saying shit is relative, it is a league that is a lot easier for 18 year olds to compete in than the premiership
Nah dont back out of it, you are commenting on an 18 year old who hasnt stopped physically developing let alone technically.
Still butthurt? stay commited.
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