So now all of a sudden it's £60m, which will turn into €75m, which will turn into £75m, which will become €95m, repeat until satisfactory bashing of the club is achieved.
(But yeah, even the touted €60m up front sounds absolutely ridiculous)
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(But yeah, even the touted €60m up front sounds absolutely ridiculous)
FFS Martial??? £57 million? we really do need to put Woody in a straight jacket and get a DOF ASAP ICI UB40 C3P0
Not worth it at all!
Is he better than Neves, Tielemans, Bazoer? And what happen with midfielders like Carvalho, Kondogbia, Bender? I remember the caf used to talk about them a lot. I still believe that Gundogan is our best choice, but a young talented CM could be a good option.
STFU Martial cost £38m, anyhow another £20m we could get Pogba!
Go back to the thread and check for yourself.
The thing that worries me about this one is...yes, he's very good for his age...but...a lot of this is down to the fact that he's very physically developed for his age - obviously this means that other players, who are not, will catch up in this aspect
AKA the lad in school who was awesome because he was bigger / stronger than everyone else (and had a beard probably)
AKA the lad in school who was awesome because he was bigger / stronger than everyone else (and had a beard probably)
Isn't he playing for the first team though?
Yeh this is certainly a factor when playing in the under 21s as you can bully the less physically developed players, but as he's playing for the first team, it shows that that power is able to dominate men as well as boys and that's what makes it more impressive. To be fair too lad, he does also show good positional awareness and has decent technique. I think he is just the sort of player we should be looking at.
From the few games I've watched, he has pretty good technique too. If we are willing to spend €60m on him we must have seen something. The report from Portugal is we've been watching him for two years.
No.
We've all turned into accountants overnight.
I think it's a positive step to attract talent considering our current league position and no CL football next year.
Is this the attraction on Mourinho? The BBC claim we beat RM to the deal.
I think it's a positive step to attract talent considering our current league position and no CL football next year.
Is this the attraction on Mourinho? The BBC claim we beat RM to the deal.
I like him. Take Carvalho with him while we are at it.
Where?
Yes, but I mean it's impressive that he's holding his own in the first team at a young age, but that's partly because he's physically fully developed - and that part of his game doesn't really have room for improvement. I.e. If a physically small player is doing well in the first team then this must be because of their technique / skill and you can pretty much guarantee that they will also improve further when they "fill out".
I agree when we are talking about the price for the player, thats insane, but the football world is insane.
I dont agree if its worth it or not with the player. For all we know, he will be a footballing god in the future.
Weird arguement. If he's already holding his own physically then that's a good thing, he won't need to work on that. Just because he's hit his physical peak early doesn't mean he won't get any better as a player. His technique is already very good, passing with both feet and shooting with power at range.
He also seems tactically discliplined at a young age, but also capable of covering every blade of grass if required.
They weren't reporting it themselves. They cited Record as their source so it's nothing new.
I think the confusion comes from their headline which says 'Man Utd have agreement for Renato'.
What I'm getting this;
Everyone is aware that the PL and most especially United are bracing themselves for a big payout. Other clubs are alert and want a piece of the action via player sales. Benfica have a history of throwing the odd youth player in the squad to boost their transfer values, every one loves a young player breaking into the first team. Now add in the fact that this player is a Jorge Mendez client, you have hit the jackpot. You have to wonder why United arethe only club "genuinely" interested in him. Sanchez is like the fourth young Benfica player that has been hyped like this in recent months. From what I've seen from the guy, he is good but not this good. He was probably thrown into the first team because of injuries, or he was just better than the reserves (which doesn't mean much if the reserve side is nothing to write about) or just for transfer reasons. I know which it smells more like.
I'd rather focus on Pereira or spend that money on Alli
I'm not saying your wrong but everyone said the same thing about the martial transfer and look how that has turned out. If there's one area I still think Utd are one of the best it's scouting young players
I'm sorry guys, no 18 year old is physically fully developed or has hit their physical peak.
Agree with this but there's also nothing to say he's actually hit his physical peak just because he's already well developed, he only turned 18 last August so could continue to develop physically and be a complete beast
He's probably still got spots and only shaves once a week.
Is "gentlemen agreement" between "considering to make a bid" and "preparing to make a bid"?
If this is true - It is bad news for the anti-lvg brigade. There's absolutely no way that mourinho would be coming & the first thing we do is buy a young midfielder. LVG on the other hand, its the most obvious next step.
If there is news on a young left footed RW coming in aswell then you might as well put bets on LVG staying.
If there is news on a young left footed RW coming in aswell then you might as well put bets on LVG staying.
Yes, not a chance at all Mourinho would ever play a young player. He's never ever done that. Van Gaal on the other hand has developed every good young player in the last 20 years.
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There's no way we are keeping LvG and Sanches is a Mendes client and pretty much a typical Mourinho type of CM in temrs of attributes.
Mourinho has a poor record with academy players, but he's used quite a number of young players. Robben was 20 when he signed for Chelsea. Mourinho played Varane quite often and was a big fan. Furthermore, Sanches is Mourinho type CM. Technically good, strong as an Ox, good at running so the ball and a tremendous engine. He also has a good passing range. I've only seen him about 5 times though.
Thats not what im saying; I'm saying for it to be the first player he buys is a bit anti-mourinho. I.e it shows a lack of urgency to get things running.
This. We are still very good at scouting young players and we must sometimes take calculated chances. Even though we did the maths, some young players dont live up to the expectations and thats life.
He may have a man's head, but he has a boy's body.
Very true but Martial was clearly a talent and caught my eye before the Arsenal game but I must admit that he has exceeded my expectations. Martial didn't just appear from nowhere and he wasn't touted about like Sanchez has been. It is also common knowledge that Martial was also wanted by a few other clubs before we stepped in. That said, the case of Martial is a one off and we are lucky and privileged to him him here.
Besides, it's Benfica, until we have put in a bid I refuse to believe we are that interested in him.
He looks fairly built to me there.
It's still hard to believe that pic isn't a manip.
Rooney was built like a brick shit house when he was 16.
I think the reported fee just shows near impossible it will be for us to get the quantity of quality players we need to bring in to have a title challenging squad.
We are so far behind, that £200m wouldn't do it. A third would already be gone on this lad.
We are so far behind, that £200m wouldn't do it. A third would already be gone on this lad.
That isn't true. Leicester are the fecking best team in the country!
We have the best goalkeeper, best left-back, one of the best right-backs, some of the upper tier of midfielders, the best young player in the world up front. It isn't as simple as us necessarily needing a whole new side. We need about three new players for the first XI, maybe four. We need fresh impetus and ideas more than anything else, but this side is definitely better than we are showing.
De Gea, Darmian, Smalling, Shaw, Schneiderlin, Martial - these are all good enough to start for a title winning side. We then have the likes of Mata, Herrera, Memphis who can also impact well either from the start or as squad players.
We need one or two to lift the attack, some drive in midfield (which Sanches may provide), and a centre-half to partner Smalling.
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