So your post is wide off the mark. Who cares about Jose, my post was about Pep.
Renato Sanches joins Bayern
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So your post is wide off the mark. Who cares about Jose, my post was about Pep.
Martinez extended his contract till 2021, Thiago extended his till 2019. Doesn't seem to be that bad over here. Still, you are owing me a sound explanation why Utd and only Utd will be his next career move, if he should leave at some time.
Bayern fans are a sensitive lot here. No criticisms of Bayern allowed.
Yeah that is very obvious. We have excellent Bayern posters here and then we have few who post nothing but negatively about ManUtd, sort of like WUM mission.
How sad. Let's hope they have a more meaningful experience there going ahead.
You are trolling, right? We haven't lost any player to the Prem since Hargreaves. And even that's debatable since there are ongoing rumours we just cashed in on a known crock.
We are in tier 1 in regards to wages and players don't seem to be concerned about the league as long as there is Champions League and a shot at winning it.
Raoul cares about Jose, implying he'd stay long enough to get Sanches over to Utd. On that basis, one claim that about Pep, too. That is the point of my post.
That was ancient history. The trend is clearly towards England or Spain now.
Raoul said "at some point" not immediate next move.
Not that I agree with him as I don't see us signing him at all in the future for various reasons. 1 being if he is flop then we don't care, 2nd being if he is a big hit then we don't have chance.
Cut your evasion tactics. Why Utd and no other club?
Makes perfect sense - World's best manager over the past 15 years, Portuguese, world's biggest club (or thereabouts). Any young and learning Portuguese player worth his salt would want to play for Mourinho.
I'm sure other English clubs would be interested as well.
Well, that sounds different than
I didn't say United wouldn't persevere above other English clubs, just that there would be multiple clubs interested. Is it clear ?
Clearly you're not understanding this.
What I understand is, that you've leaned yourself a bit too far out of the window, and now you're trying to backpedal without admitting the obvious. You didn't say he *might* be a Utd player, you've said he *will* be. That is as clear as it gets.
It's fine though.
Clearly our discussion is getting lost in translation - as in your English isn't good enough to understand what I'm saying. Now let's jog on shall we.
I'm sure my english is serviceable enough to get the distinction between might and will. But yeah, let's jog on.
No, you didn't get it. I'll have to get my banter fix in elsewhere. But please continue to enjoy posting here at Red Cafe.
But you are not understanding what he wrote. He said other English clubs will be interested but United will trump their offers, thus he will be a United player in the future.
I refuse to put Deisler on the same level as Sosa and Breno. Shame!
I don't deserve shame. That's too harsh.
Sporting Lisbon president Bruno de Carvalho has even gone as far as calling on the hospital that he was born to confirm his birthday once and for all.
Portuguese newspaper Jornal de Noticias conducted an investigation claiming that their was documentation confirming the player's birth date of August 18th 1997, but that the birth wasn't registered until August 22nd 2002 - a full five years later.
The report says that Sanches' father left his mother when the boy was five months old, emigrating to France - returning five years later to register the birth of his son.
Bizarre if true..
Portuguese newspaper Jornal de Noticias conducted an investigation claiming that their was documentation confirming the player's birth date of August 18th 1997, but that the birth wasn't registered until August 22nd 2002 - a full five years later.
The report says that Sanches' father left his mother when the boy was five months old, emigrating to France - returning five years later to register the birth of his son.
Bizarre if true..
Bayern like PSG don't really sell their best players as they don't need the money.
If he turns out to be class,he'll stay at Bayern for most of his peak and then they will move him on to some sucker knowing full well they are selling a far inferior player.
The only big name to really leave at his peak was Kroos ,and Bayern simply refused to meet his wage demands.
It's a few months old already, but still funny. Reanto Sanches threatened to sue Bruno de Carvalho (don't know if he went forward with it).
The most funny aspect was the amount of dumb fecks in facebook and blogs that read that as supposedly claiming he's 23 years old.
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Bayern got a fantastic player.I think that his game against Poland was what impressed most in the Euro
Guy Roux questioning his age now
Didn't Bayern make Breno take a bone test to discover his real age cos he was huge and looked like a 30 year old?
And Bayern have paid pogba-esque money to purchase Renato whilst we buy pogba .
Not quite as big as the 4th place trophy, I agree. Maybe you'll win that one next season again.
He played for 10 years in Benfica's academy. Surely they would have noticed if they had a 9 year old or a 15year old at the start of his playing time there? Also, how does Guy Roux know how much older he supposedly is? Even if it's true that he wasn't registered until 2002, do they have any proof that he was 11 instead of 5 at the time? Or do they just randomly throw numbers around?
It's also a bit weird if a player suddenly at 24 makes a massive step forward from looking like a youth player to being a regular starter for Benfica and then making a big impact at the Euro. That's a really atypical development for a footballer, who in his decision making also looks quite immature and young and perfectly fitting to a 18year old.
It's an entirely different situation to a much older looking player with a questionable record before moving to Europe. Renato's career over the last decade is well documented with appearances for Portugal's youth nationalteams as well. A player who was part of a highly respectable European academy for such a long time can't hide his true age.
Not the slightest bit worried in his case.
It's also a bit weird if a player suddenly at 24 makes a massive step forward from looking like a youth player to being a regular starter for Benfica and then making a big impact at the Euro. That's a really atypical development for a footballer, who in his decision making also looks quite immature and young and perfectly fitting to a 18year old.
It's an entirely different situation to a much older looking player with a questionable record before moving to Europe. Renato's career over the last decade is well documented with appearances for Portugal's youth nationalteams as well. A player who was part of a highly respectable European academy for such a long time can't hide his true age.
Not the slightest bit worried in his case.
Salty, I like it.
What would it change anyway?
Have you ever seen that picture of Lukaku when he was playing in the U12s though? He could have easily been 18 based on physical development.
He's special due to his physicality and maturity on the field and having all this at 18. It implies a large scope for improvement that he can reach elite level and this ties into his transfer fee.
He isn't so special anymore if he's 24.
Look at Lingard last season. If he were 17/18 we would be creaming ourselves over him ala Rashford.
So far the fee paid should be around £ 30 mil. It'll certainly go up a bit but the fee will never be anywhere near of what United will have to cough up to get Pogba. For that to happen Sanches would need to be voted among the top 3 in the ballon d'or, something Pogba has yet to achieve and is almost impossible to accomplish for any defensive midfielder these days. And I won't even start debating the difference in wages.And Bayern have paid pogba-esque money to purchase Renato whilst we buy pogba .
So far Sanches looks a decent midfielder with power to go full throttle for 90+ minutes but not much more tbh. He's still raw though and might develop into a true monster.
Pogba is a different tier atm. No need to compare the two because that would be a bit unfair to Sanches. Pogba is the finished article which is exactly what United needs atm and he will immediately lift United's midfield up to being in contention for "best in the league" imo.
True enough.
Looking at the late birth registration detail of the story, it seems conceivable that he might be one or two years older but him being 24 seems a stretch.
Dunno, but 'accused of being 24' somehow makes me laugh. It's just a funny sounding thing to say.
How could anyone believe he is 18?
Just look at him FFS, he looks 28.
He is a good player but people expecting him to improve like a normal 18 year old player are deluded, he is at his physical peak now.
Why would Roux of all people know something about such a thing? And it's also not like the kid is from some super corrupt/poor/underdeveloped country, he was born in Lisbon according to Wiki.
I would rolling on the floor laughing if that turns out to be true. Imagine Rolex-Kalle looking on the passport of Renate and make his wellknown beautiful dumb face.
Thomas Müller has looked like 30 the last 10 years. Schweinsteiger looks 50 since he joined United.