I love our resident Gunners. You've gone so native I honestly never knew you were one, oates.
Religion, what's the point?
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I love our resident Gunners. You've gone so native I honestly never knew you were one, oates.
Heh heh.So much for your birthday present from me
It's beautiful, isn't it? It almost brings a tear to my eye.
Wicked old She-Devil, you!
But it's someone who probably wasn't even born when we were under Big Ron! It's like being mean to a kitten.
I think I first learned who Ron was after his racist remarks about Desailly, when I was about 15. Not the best introduction.
Obviously you know more about his church and its teachings than he does.
Love how this thread devolved from questioning the value of religion existing at all to intra religious sectarian babble.
A bit like arguing about which colour of unicorn is the correct one.
Do animals have souls?
Just like real life. Perhaps the general is our peace line? The CE is out 70's Derry and this thread is potentially our Bloody Sunday.
We should sell tickets.
Cheap and distasteful.
Is now an appropriate time to post the picture of me dressed as Jesus?
In what way?
No.
Like other animals such as us.
If however they did it would be blue with purple stripes.
I am confident we've arrived at that point, yes.
To answer the question of the thread: to control the masses and answer questions we didn't understand a few thousand years ago.
Now we have answered the questions, we don't need them.
For the remainder of the questions, we'll use science.
Now we have answered the questions, we don't need them.
For the remainder of the questions, we'll use science.
Make it more interesting; did dinosaurs have souls?
A lot of it is clearly psychological: primitive people around the world invented similar stories to combat their fear of death and the caprices of nature. There is a clear path from primitive sympathetic and contagious magic to religion. See Frazer's 'The Golden Bough'
Agreed with that. Shame more religious types don't.
Very true.
I think that if the human race was born a thousand times over, on other planets, we would always come to the warped primitive conclusion that there is a God. It's a reason why I don't think religion will ever die. We naturally fear death and naturally want to combat the notion. Something other animals simply can't do.
The belief in a God, though absurd to me, I can live with. I understand where it comes from.
This structured and highly detailed fantasy though? Absolutely mental. The institutions that support them? Ridiculous. And they keep on creating them. Newfrontiers? Heck, I was almost sure Humprey was Catholic, from reading a few posts. He smells like a Catholic, moves like a Catholic, argues like a Catholic. But apparently they're shit. So he joined a cooler clique, with a more hipster leader.
Lol, come on now. There's no need to accuse me of being a Catholic. That's a low blow.
Religion poisons everything.
Even Christopher Hitchens' book!
Religion truly is the root of much evil.
It boggles my mind that anyone religious isn't labeled as mentally ill anno 2014.
It boggles my mind that anyone religious isn't labeled as mentally ill anno 2014.
And there's insane, wicked, incredibly thick, and ignorant, too. What mental illness are we calling it? Tell you what, you could be fiendishly witty at this point and say, "Christianity." That'll win you some style points.
Why do you apparently mock Catholicism more than anything else, including atheism? I hate it, since I was surrounded by it - and still am - but it's confusing. Is it in the sort of way football fans tend to hate their closest rivals more than their distant ones? If so, it makes me even more inclined to look at it like a puerile thing (the institutional side of religion).
Christianity.
I don't care about Christianity. To me all the religions are insanity.
Religion is an easy cop out to avoid taking responsibility for once actions. And I hate the political correctness about religion.
Religion shouldn't be treated with gloves, shouldn't be exempt from scrutiny and it should be opposed everywhere and at any time. It has done no good to the World. Christianity in the past, Islam in the present.
No, I don't mock Catholicism more than anything else (I really don't like it, though). I do criticise heretical versions of Christianity because I believe that the judgement of God begins with the house of God. Essentially, I am demanding that Christians be more like Christ as a priority, rather than trying to please the world.
It really is mental. In my honest opinion, it's no different from the highly detailed fantasy of films/books such as The Lord Of The Rings, or Star Wars. The only difference is, the fear of death is attached to it. The unknown. That's what reels people into actually believing religious fantasy.
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It's a divine North Korea.
I can't say I personally met him but you don't look like Christ any more than most people I met. Is it because I was given a warped version of Christ in my Catholic environment? Or is Christ an unanimous figure?
Granted I don't know you and this might be an unfair assessment, but if I could imagine Christ posting in an internet forum I'd imagine him with a very different style than yours. Less argumentative, more sympathetic, a lot more humble, etc. And boring. You're funny, he's not.
Sorry what?
Well, apart from the fact Christ is better in every way than I am (and I can really be a bit of a scoundrel), he really isn't the hippy figure many have made him out to be. The Christ of the gospels is at times quite terrifying if you pay attention to what he says. He preached on hell more than anyone else, for example, and he fashioned a whip at one point to drive the money lenders out of the temple (essentially his Father's house). Funnily enough, he also had a very dry sense of humour. In fact, even though the Bible is a theological book, so there really isn't that much place for humour, one of the parables he tells of the wedding guests (if you were familiar with Jewish culture and how they arranged events well in advance) was effortlessly humorous, while conveying a profound truth. There's also a really funny story in Numbers 22, off the top of my head, involving a talking donkey (the angel of the Lord is described as opening its mouth and OT references to the Angel of The Lord are often what is to believed to be the pre-incarnate Christ).
Jesus was definitely not this boring character who wouldn't say boo to a goose. better in humility than me, by a landslide, but not without righteous anger.
Just a quick addition, when a Canaanite mother of a sick child asks for him to help her sick daughter, Jesus ignores her initially. But then he says in Matt 15:26: "It is not right to take the children's bread and throw it to the dogs."
Now, the full story is that he does heal her daughter and he commends the woman eventually, but his initial comment would be incredibly offensive to you or anyone else because what he essentially told her was that her religion wasn't fit for consumption. I am told by a Biblical scholar that the Greek term used there means a diminutive dog, sort of like our equivalent for puppy. The history of the term "dog" in this context was that the Jews often used it of gentiles as an insult. And Jesus did that so the woman could demonstrate her faith and humility.
Jesus certainly has a razor-sharp wit.
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