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There is as good of a chance of United winning the league than getting relegated.
 
Why? Some of us aren't bullish enough to assume that it isn't a possibility. This would have been a ridiculous thread two seasons ago, not so much now. We get worse every year.

No, it is plainly ridiculous. Christ almighty, people have lost the plot.
 
I don’t get how anyone could think relegation is a possibility, this over dramatic nonsense is tiresome.
 
Is there any possibility of a points deduction for failing PSR? That would be the only way relegation would be possible.
 
Love how OP thinks the league is basically winning/CL places or relegated. Were a plucky mid table team these days, no threat of relegation.
 
The R word..

I’m not seeing any significant improvements on the field and the players are lacking belief. Our forwards simply aren’t good enough and we look vulnerable at the back. If the keeper also loses confidence then we’re in the shit for the rest of the season. If we get less than 3 points over the next 3 games, then I think we’ll be in a relegation battle for the rest of the season, this is how these things work from my experiences because you end up in a downward spiral which is very hard to get out of no matter how good the players or coaches might be.
Or do you think I am over dramatizing things ?
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City (A)
Bournemouth (H)
Wolves (A)
Newcastle (H)
Liverpool (A)

I see maybe one win in that. There is two almost guaranteed losses to City and Liverpool. Newcastle regularly do us these days. Might win one of the Wolves/Bournemouth matches.

We're into the new year then and the gap to the bottom three will be closer. These things can snowball.

I reckon we'll take 7 points from that. Liverpool away is the only game where you can almost guatentee we'll get nothing.

As disappointing as the start under Amorim has been... we've not been that bad. Scored more goals and the ones we've conceded have been so soft surely they can be fixed in training. If Onana turned up on Saturday we'd have won and the threads on here would be discussing top 4, not bottom 3.
 
We've been utter all shit all season and are on 19. How fecking shit are Southhampton that they are only on 5 :lol:
 
I'm a relative newcomer to the caf, but one thing I've noticed is how bipolar the fanbase is.
Every time there is a win, there's talk that 'we're only x points off top 4!'
Every time we lose, the depression sets in and the doomsayers come out of their caves.
The truth is somewhere in between - we are a mid-table club.

Having said all that, it is entirely possible the club will go into to freefall *if* Amorim doesn't build some momentum.
ETH had the luxury of starting with a clean slate. He had two shocking matches, then won against the odds against Liverpool, and carried that momentum until around February that season. He was also carried by Rashford's purple patch.

Amorim has been given a really raw deal.
 
I'm a relative newcomer to the caf, but one thing I've noticed is how bipolar the fanbase is.
Every time there is a win, there's talk that 'we're only x points off top 4!'
Every time we lose, the depression sets in and the doomsayers come out of their caves.
The truth is somewhere in between - we are a mid-table club.

Having said all that, it is entirely possible the club will go into to freefall *if* Amorim doesn't build some momentum.
ETH had the luxury of starting with a clean slate. He had two shocking matches, then won against the odds against Liverpool, and carried that momentum until around February that season. He was also carried by Rashford's purple patch.

Amorim has been given a really raw deal.
I miss the days when I'd look at RAWK and laugh at how clueless and reactionary they were. 15 years later, it turns out redcafe is actually worse.
 
I miss the days when I'd look at RAWK and laugh at how clueless and reactionary they were. 15 years later, it turns out redcafe is actually worse.
Liverpool were never this bad.
 
There's no chance we finish below Ipswich or Southampton.

I think we'll finish ahead of Leicester, Wolves, West Ham Everton and Palace too so no lower than 13th.
 
I miss the days when I'd look at RAWK and laugh at how clueless and reactionary they were. 15 years later, it turns out redcafe is actually worse.
Yep if the results on the pitch are depressing enough, coming on here is a different level.
I think everyone knew we would struggling once SAF retired, but I never thought we'd reach such lows.
I also think a few years ago, most teams still treated us with a bit of respect, because of the club's name and standing, but that veneer has all but disappeared.
 
Silly thread isn’t it. We’ll be nowhere near relegation.
 
With all of the shit threads you churn out, it's quite amazing that you've managed to top them with an actual, genuine football opinion.
 
I'm a relative newcomer to the caf, but one thing I've noticed is how bipolar the fanbase is.
Every time there is a win, there's talk that 'we're only x points off top 4!'
Every time we lose, the depression sets in and the doomsayers come out of their caves.
The truth is somewhere in between - we are a mid-table club.

Having said all that, it is entirely possible the club will go into to freefall *if* Amorim doesn't build some momentum.
ETH had the luxury of starting with a clean slate. He had two shocking matches, then won against the odds against Liverpool, and carried that momentum until around February that season. He was also carried by Rashford's purple patch.

Amorim has been given a really raw deal.
It is the manager's job to steady the ship when needed, yes Amorim inherited a mess in the middle of the season, while ETH inherited a mess in pre-season.
About relegation I don't think we will be that bad, but I see us finishing anywhere between 8th and 14th.
 
The only conceivable way this happens is if Amorim loses the dressing room and we end up panicking and bringing in a (probably shit) interim too late to turn things around and we end up in freefall.

It's not totally beyond the realms of possibility that this happens, but it's highly unlikely.
 
The R word..

I’m not seeing any significant improvements on the field and the players are lacking belief. Our forwards simply aren’t good enough and we look vulnerable at the back. If the keeper also loses confidence then we’re in the shit for the rest of the season. If we get less than 3 points over the next 3 games, then I think we’ll be in a relegation battle for the rest of the season, this is how these things work from my experiences because you end up in a downward spiral which is very hard to get out of no matter how good the players or coaches might be.
Or do you think I am over dramatizing things ?
No, we won't be. Who are we going to be in the battle in place of?
 
The R word..

I’m not seeing any significant improvements on the field and the players are lacking belief. Our forwards simply aren’t good enough and we look vulnerable at the back. If the keeper also loses confidence then we’re in the shit for the rest of the season. If we get less than 3 points over the next 3 games, then I think we’ll be in a relegation battle for the rest of the season, this is how these things work from my experiences because you end up in a downward spiral which is very hard to get out of no matter how good the players or coaches might be.
Or do you think I am over dramatizing things ?
So you're saying next 3 games are the key to the whole season or next 3 games are most important.
 
Silly thread isn’t it. We’ll be nowhere near relegation.
Exactly we need 21 points more and that’s our first target, Amorim needs to learn and learn quickly, SJR has already proven even if he buy s you out of your current contract, if he doesn’t see results he’s an impatient owner, extremely impatient!
 
It is the manager's job to steady the ship when needed, yes Amorim inherited a mess in the middle of the season, while ETH inherited a mess in pre-season.
About relegation I don't think we will be that bad, but I see us finishing anywhere between 8th and 14th.
I think it's generally easier to deal with a mess in pre-season than it is half-way through the season.
As a recent example, look at Potter who had to come in when Tuchel got the sack. Then look at Maresca who got to build on the momentum of Poch's final quarter of the season with a clean slate.

I agree with you regarding your prediction for where we will finish.
 
This has to be worst thread of the year, surely a WUM. Absolutely bonkers that someone would seriously think that we’re in a relegation battle
 
We will finish with 60 to 65 points as the team gets settled under Amorim, so far off from relegation and likely between 6th to 8th.
 
You can currently get odds of around 500/1 for us to be relegated, and for good reason.

Anyone who thinks it's a realistic prospect should ponder how they've managed to watch football for so long without understanding how football actually works.
 
If relegation means that the Glazers and INEOS feck off, then I'm all for it. :lol:
 
So you're saying next 3 games are the key to the whole season or next 3 games are most important.
Well, if we lose to Citeh & Bournemouth, then god forbid lose at Wolves.. then in the best case we’d be only 5 points off the relegation zone at the half way mark. Only saying like..
 
We're obviously not getting relegated but if we did, not sure it would be too bad. Complete reset, get used to winning again, get rid of the big earners etc
Not sure why people say this, if we really wanted to we could do that, no need to get relegated for it.
 
Well, if we lose to Citeh & Bournemouth, then god forbid lose at Wolves.. then in the best case we’d be only 5 points off the relegation zone at the half way mark. Only saying like..
Yeah, but are all the teams below us going to win all three of their games during this time?
 
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