Agreed I liked both of them. Not as good obviously but still decent. The last two though I would never try and watch again.
Film RedCafe's Favourite Movies Of All Time Contest (THE RESULTS)
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4 was Salvation and 5 was Genysis (sp?) which I hated.
Hang on... How many are there?
The Terminator
T2
Terminator 3
Terminator Salvation
Terminator Genisys
Is that them all?
Apparently there is also Terminator Dark Fate.
There was a 6 as well they brought back Linda Hamilton
well said.
OMG I completely forgot about that shitThere was a 6 as well they brought back Linda Hamilton
I would rank them as:
T2
The Terminator
Terminator Salvation
Terminator 3
Terminator Dark Fate
Terminator Genisys
Agreed! Although if the original didn't look so shit at the end it would be close depending on mood.OMG I completely forgot about that shit
I would rank them as:
T2
The Terminator
Terminator Salvation
Terminator 3
Terminator Dark Fate
Terminator Genisys
Yeah that final scene aged horribly.
Genisys so bad... The trailer has the plot twist in it
Monster drop off between the first 2 and the rest! I honestly couldn't tell you which ones I've seen outside of the first 3. And I barely remember 3. Female terminator? Emo John Connor? Maybe?OMG I completely forgot about that shit
I would rank them as:
T2
The Terminator
Terminator Salvation
Terminator 3
Terminator Dark Fate
Terminator Genisys
Yeah that's the one.
I don't mind the Bale one. It was a step in the right direction.
The only thing I really know about the Bale one is him losing his shit at the crew haha
Yeah that was horrible. I've been on set and know what that would have done to the atmosphere.
It was a decent action movie.
I mentally checked-out at this point in T3:
Then Salvation was too serious. Never saw Genysis, primarily due to the spelling.
Dark Fate was watchable.
Dark Fate was watchable.
You're so lucky.I mentally checked-out at this point in T3:
Then Salvation was too serious. Never saw Genysis, primarily due to the spelling.
Dark Fate was watchable.
No. 8 - The Shawshank Redemption
Total Points: 115
Number Of Lists: 18
Highest Position: 1
Voter Of Highest Position: @Edgar Allan Pillow @pauldyson1uk @SalfordRed18 @sherrinford @Corey
Total Points: 115
Number Of Lists: 18
Highest Position: 1
Voter Of Highest Position: @Edgar Allan Pillow @pauldyson1uk @SalfordRed18 @sherrinford @Corey
IMDb best ranked movie of all time in at number 8 on our list.
If I remember correctly, Frank Darabont was offered $3m dollars to hand the studio the script and walk away or forego that money and direct... He chose the latter.
T3 has one of the worst moments in movie history in it...
Luke Skywalker brushing off his shoulder is the other one that comes to mind.
Luke Skywalker brushing off his shoulder is the other one that comes to mind.
I don't particularly consider it the best movie of all time but it was imo the best on the list and should be higher.No. 8 - The Shawshank Redemption
Total Points: 115
Number Of Lists: 18
Highest Position: 1
Voter Of Highest Position: @Edgar Allan Pillow @pauldyson1uk @SalfordRed18 @sherrinford @Corey
The Raid should've been on here somewhere. Surprised to see Shawshank ahead of T2
Agree with all of that.
I used to absolutely love this film, but somehow I can't rate it as much now. Not sure why. Maybe I've just seen too many better films, I'm going for something else now - or maybe I should just see it again!No. 8 - The Shawshank Redemption
Total Points: 115
Number Of Lists: 18
Highest Position: 1
Voter Of Highest Position: @Edgar Allan Pillow @pauldyson1uk @SalfordRed18 @sherrinford @Corey
But so why didn't it work for you? I'm not trying to criticize, obviously not everyone is going to share my preferences; I'm just curious what put you off.Still never got through it despite multiple attempts and still don't get the almost-universal love. Different strokes and all that, I guess. So I probably voted for it at some point
It's a nice film and probably goes to show how important a feel-good story can be. Casting and performances are very good, too, and that certainly helps it.
Yeah, it is - and that's probably also part of why it has dropped a little in my estimation: it's 'just' a feel-good film, there's not much else to get out of it. I personally wouldn't be able to put a romcom in my top-whatever either, they're just too light-weight to me - as much as I do enjoy watching them (especially when I'm tired or otherwise drained). And kinda similarly, as I've been saying in the review thread, I prefer Jordan Peele's Nope over Get Out as I think the latter is too obvious in terms of its themes and messages.
I'm not sure I really agree with myself on this (why would art have to have meaning, messages, and/or references beyond what's obvious at face-value?), but then I don't care enough about rankings to figure this out in detail and I'll just go with my feeling.
At least we were served two great Terminator movies. The Predator is a different story though. From Arnold to Adrien Brody
.Yeah, it is - and that's probably also part of why it has dropped a little in my estimation: it's 'just' a feel-good film, there's not much else to get out of it. I personally wouldn't be able to put a romcom in my top-whatever either, they're just too light-weight to me - as much as I do enjoy watching them (especially when I'm tired or otherwise drained). And kinda similarly, as I've been saying in the review thread, I prefer Jordan Peele's Nope over Get Out as I think the latter is too obvious in terms of its themes and messages.
I'm not sure I really agree with myself on this (why would art have to have meaning, messages, and/or references beyond what's obvious at face-value?), but then I don't care enough about rankings to figure this out in detail and I'll just go with my feeling.
I was going to reply to you saying that. The ending for me is too simple, like it feels so hollow and simplified when the rest of the movie is really well-crafted and often quite tense. It kinda sucks out any debate you can have about the film.
Edit - Specifically the epilogue-y bit where he's driving down the beach or whatever (been years since I saw it).
Way to high on both
I don't get this? I personally found NOPE as a heavy handed movie. Couldn't stand it.Yeah, it is - and that's probably also part of why it has dropped a little in my estimation: it's 'just' a feel-good film, there's not much else to get out of it. I personally wouldn't be able to put a romcom in my top-whatever either, they're just too light-weight to me - as much as I do enjoy watching them (especially when I'm tired or otherwise drained). And kinda similarly, as I've been saying in the review thread, I prefer Jordan Peele's Nope over Get Out as I think the latter is too obvious in terms of its themes and messages.
I'm not sure I really agree with myself on this (why would art have to have meaning, messages, and/or references beyond what's obvious at face-value?), but then I don't care enough about rankings to figure this out in detail and I'll just go with my feeling.
Same.
I thought that Brody movie actually starts really well... Then Morpheus appears and it completely shits the bed. It's certainly better than that one directed by Shane Black...At least we were served two great Terminator movies. The Predator is a different story though. From Arnold to Adrien Brody
Prey was a decent entry into the franchise though.
Yeah - but then isn't it nice to watch a movie that ends well and the stories all come full circle? Like, I watched Judas and the Black Messiah the other day, and it just left me angry and frustrated. I suppose that wouldn't have happened if I had known Fred Hampton's story beforehand, but a lot of supposedly quality films are like that: the ending is sad, heavy, or otherwise dramatic. I actually kinda agree that this adds gravitas to stories and it pushes them up in my estimation - but when I take a step back and look at that statement, I'm not sure why it would have to be true. Certainly movies that end well are much more fun and satisfying (at least in the immediate sense).
I think for me it was partly the impression it made on me I was only about 12 when I watched it and it seemed pretty menacing back in those days. I also loved the music and the acting, it was the first film of that kind I ever saw.
I could rewatch it any number of times. That, GF2 and Goodfellas are all great films.
I'll have to watch Goodfellas again. When I saw it some 20 years ago, I couldn't really appreciate it: a story of a violence- and drug-fuelled descent to ruin, with all the usual mafia/gangster clichés. I'm sure it's extremely well done, but it just really didn't appeal to me - much like I disliked The Wolf of Wall Street, which I found tiring and off-putting (as well as far too long). As such, Goodfellas can't hold a candle to The Godfather in my mind, which I find to be so much more interesting narratively, and which is just exquisite in the way it's shot (put it on pause anywhere, and if you an almost perfectly framed picture).
But given how everyone extols Goodfellas, I guess that's another one for the watch-again list! (It's even on Netflix, so I've now added it to my list already.)
I think giving the viewer the full range of their emotional catharsis is what tends to make an instant positive impression but it's not always one that extends beyond the film itself. Your term 'full circle' is a good one as it sort of implies that we leave the film feeling full so don't need to do much else afterwards - which is perfectly fine really as some movies just want to do that.
Re: bold. I haven't seen it but there's been loads of movies I've watched and thought they were crap because they left me feeling frustrated. However, usually I'm still thinking and trying to make sense of them for days afterwards. Sometimes it can add an unexpected level of appreciation when I end up realising something that wasn't immediately apparent.
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There is no Al Pacino in Goodfellas.
I love both, but to me there is more depth to Godfather. It desdribes not only mafia but society in general. Goodfellas is a proper mob movie, more than Godfather.
Yeah, the catharsis one is the usual point - it allows you to live through emotions without them affecting you directly, and get different perspectives on life and circumstances. Feel-good films are actually unsatisfying in that sense, just like eating only dessert doesn't usually leave you feeling good beyond the very moment where you're eating them.
(And just so I'm not misunderstood: I am not necessarily disagreeing with the idea that more dramatic stories are better. There's a reason this has been thought since the ancient Greek distinction between tragedies and comedies - and probably earlier and elsewhere as well. But it's something I'm kinda interested in examining from different angles.)
Actually, this one is probably not a great example, because it's a historical movie and a quick Wiki will tell you that Fred Hampton died through a police assassination. So it's not a case of a story coming together in a dramatic sort of way that you might not get or appreciate until later ('why didn't the scenarist just let the protagonist just walk away and avoid this crap?!'), it's rather a story coming to its inevitable conclusion - and it's thus really much more about the voyage than the famous conclusion (just not famous enough for me
) in this case. But yeah, it's the same kind of idea, and I do agree with what you're saying here.I thought Get Out managed the balance of satire and entertainment much better than Nope. And the pacing was better. I enjoyed parts of Nope but came away underwhelmed tbh.Yeah, it is - and that's probably also part of why it has dropped a little in my estimation: it's 'just' a feel-good film, there's not much else to get out of it. I personally wouldn't be able to put a romcom in my top-whatever either, they're just too light-weight to me - as much as I do enjoy watching them (especially when I'm tired or otherwise drained). And kinda similarly, as I've been saying in the review thread, I prefer Jordan Peele's Nope over Get Out as I think the latter is too obvious in terms of its themes and messages.
I'm not sure I really agree with myself on this (why would art have to have meaning, messages, and/or references beyond what's obvious at face-value?), but then I don't care enough about rankings to figure this out in detail and I'll just go with my feeling.
It's hard to put in words but I just find The Godfather has more gravitas. It really strikes a chord as a series about the delicate balance between personal ambition and family/community values.
Arguably being a series gives it that because I suppose Goodfellas does the same thing but needs to wrap itself up much quicker.
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Godfather is a margherita pizza from Napoli and Goodfellas is a NYC slice with pepperoni.
Both are great in their own right: the latter you can pick up and consume anytime, whilst the former you could also do the same but is something to be savored and considered. Or…something like that…