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feck them. They got to see the greatest snooker player of all time at close to his best. Just because they didn't get their maximum doesn't mean they have a right to whinge and moan. He isn't morally obligated to the crowds whims and feelings.
Yeah feck the people who have paid the money that has allowed O'Sullivan to be able to turn something down because it's not enough money. He's a ball bag and the way people defend him being so is baffling.
 
Yeah, 10k for hitting balls with a stick is rubbish.

Hitting the balls perfectly. Yeah it probably is.

Somebody deliberately being a dick isn't something special at all. They didn't exactly gasp in awe at what they were seeing.

Because they were shocked. Bet you're the kind of miserable arse who would have moaned about Pele feinting the keeper, Messi's penalty yesterday or Best taking his boot off.

Sport is supposed to be fun, the people there more than got their monies worth.
 
Yeah feck the people who have paid the money that has allowed O'Sullivan to be able to turn something down because it's not enough money. He's a ball bag and the way people defend him being so is baffling.

It's Ronnie ffs. People will be talking about this 146 far more than another 147 to his name. You always get the unexpected with him and I'm sure people will not be that disappointed. If I was there I wouldn't be too much sad.
 
It's Ronnie ffs. People will be talking about this 146 far more than another 147 to his name. You always get the unexpected with him and I'm sure people will not be that disappointed. If I was there I wouldn't be too much sad.
Maybe they will. Personally I'd still be talking about how much of a dick he was.
 
Hitting the balls perfectly. Yeah it probably is.



Because they were shocked. Bet you're the kind of miserable arse who would have moaned about Pele feinting the keeper, Messi's penalty yesterday or Best taking his boot off.

Sport is supposed to be fun, the people there more than got their monies worth.
You could bet all you want but you would've lost. What is more entertaining him deciding to take a different colour? What he did is more equivalent to somebody deciding not to stick the ball in an empty net.
 
Maybe they will. Personally I'd still be talking about how much of a dick he was.

It's not the first time he asked about 147 money. I recall he did it during an earlier 147, stopping the match till Jan Verhaas confirmed it to him.
Still, that was a sublime break. He looked like he was bored with the colors. So effortless. Brilliant!
 
It's not the first time he asked about 147 money. I recall he did it during an earlier 147, stopping the match till Jan Verhaas confirmed it to him.
Still, that was a sublime break. He looked like he was bored with the colors. So effortless. Brilliant!
This is what makes him a dick in this instance. If it had been enough he would've went for it. Never mind the people with much less money paying to watch.
 
Yeah feck the people who have paid the money that has allowed O'Sullivan to be able to turn something down because it's not enough money. He's a ball bag and the way people defend him being so is baffling.
The reason they support him so much is because of shit like this. He does stuff that shocks people and people love him for it. They cant then moan when he does something that they have applauded him for in the past.
 
You could bet all you want but you would've lost. What is more entertaining him deciding to take a different colour? What he did is more equivalent to somebody deciding not to stick the ball in an empty net.

That's fine then, my second bet was you were a hypocrite so I'm covered each way. Not at all, because a 146 is still a frame winning break and even rarer. That was his second ever 146 break.
 
So what if United are 3-0 up, last minute, we start going on a quick counter but stop in the middle as the players decide not to bother with all that running because they haven't got a goal bonus in their contracts?

I'm sure we'd love that, wouldn't we?

I'd be lenient with O'Sullivan because he's mental, simple as that, but otherwise not trying your best is disgusting.
 
If Man Utd were winning 3-0 and left the ball on the opposition goal line with 1 minute to go it would be hilarious.
 
As I said, people who think it was actually about the money are missing the point. He's doing it because when you make perfection so routine you have to start thinking outside the box to impress people. This has generated 10x as much news as a 147 would have.
 
That's fine then, my second bet was you were a hypocrite so I'm covered each way. Not at all, because a 146 is still a frame winning break and even rarer. That was his second ever 146 break.
What in this scenario makes me a hypocrite exactly? Do you understand the word? Pele's was a piece of skill that benefitted him getting round the keeper. I never seen Messi's penalty so can't comment. Explain what is entertaining about refusing to go for a maximum because it's not enough money?
 
As I said, people who think it was actually about the money are missing the point. He's doing it because when you make perfection so routine you have to start thinking outside the box to impress people. This has generated 10x as much news as a 147 would have.
Then why ask about it? Had it been ten times as much would've he have done it? I don't see how his fans can't see he's a dick.
 
As I said, people who think it was actually about the money are missing the point. He's doing it because when you make perfection so routine you have to start thinking outside the box to impress people. This has generated 10x as much news as a 147 would have.
 
What in this scenario makes me a hypocrite exactly? Do you understand the word? Pele's was a piece of skill that benefitted him getting round the keeper. I never seen Messi's penalty so can't comment. Explain what is entertaining about refusing to go for a maximum because it's not enough money?
Then why ask about it? Had it been ten times as much would've he have done it? I don't see how his fans can't see he's a dick.

And there weren't safer ways to get around the keeper that would have put him in a better position to score and not rob the fans in the stadium of seeing a goal?

And it's part of the show.
 
And there weren't safer ways to get around the keeper that would have put him in a better position to score and not rob the fans in the stadium of seeing a goal?

And it's part of the show.
Probably. Ultimately he was trying to score and actually got round the keeper so it worked aside from him missing the empty net. It was a piece of skill that generated excitement for paying fans. Nobody can explain to me what is so exciting about him choosing an easier shot because he wouldn't get enough money for it. And you won't be able to either.
 
Not like Ronnie to get everyone talking about how much of a frustrated genius he is.
 
Probably. Ultimately he was trying to score and actually got round the keeper so it worked aside from him missing the empty net. It was a piece of skill that generated excitement for paying fans. Nobody can explain to me what is so exciting about him choosing an easier shot because he wouldn't get enough money for it. And you won't be able to either.
It put him in a far more difficult position because it was unnecessary.

Nobody has ever dared do it before, that's the point. And it was the easier shot because he played for it, either was a formality at that point.
 
It put him in a far more difficult position because it was unnecessary.

Nobody has ever dared do it before, that's the point. And it was the easier shot because he played for it, either was a formality at that point.
In what way did it out him a difficult position? It was an open goal. He was also still trying to score. Nobody has done it before because it's utterly pointless.
 
Who really gives a feck. The 146 will be more remembered than any of his 147s. Crowd were lucky to see it.
 
In what way did it out him a difficult position? It was an open goal. He was also still trying to score. Nobody has done it before because it's utterly pointless.
In the way that the ball ran way wider than if he'd taken it round the goalkeeper himself and forced him to shoot from a difficult angle.

So is getting a 147 when the money doesn't mean anything to you, how is potting the exact 36 balls you want, in the order you want to not impressive? You need 67 to win a frame in most cases, when you've already made a dozen maximums anything more is just polish.
 
In the way that the ball ran way wider than if he'd taken it round the goalkeeper himself and forced him to shoot from a difficult angle.

So is getting a 147 when the money doesn't mean anything to you, how is potting the exact 36 balls you want, in the order you want to not impressive? You need 67 to win a frame in most cases, when you've already made a dozen maximums anything more is just polish.
Being able to compile a big break in snooker is always impressive. I'm yet to see anyone say how deliberately not playing for a black was more entertaining though. Playing a difficult positional shot on that red would be more impressive.
 
Being able to compile a big break in snooker is always impressive. I'm yet to see anyone say how deliberately not playing for a black was more entertaining though. Playing a difficult positional shot on that red would be more impressive.

Either shot was trivial for him, there was no difference in difficulty. It's still a ridiculous break to watch, possibly his most effortless as well.
 
I don't think the people who paid to be there should mind too much. They got to see something memorable and really in terms of the spectacle an intentional 146 isn't any worse than a 147 is it? It's disrespectful to the competition organisers though I guess.
 
All the people weeping about being disrespectful to the paying fans or even the 'spectacle' can lump it and get a life. He's just played out of his skin and given a 146 whilst laughing and all this just after battering all the top players at the Masters!!

And as others have said, this will go down as one of Ronnies legendary moments so all those fans can go home and tell their mates they saw the day when he purposely refused a 147 instead of saying "yeah I saw number whatever of Ronnies long list of 147's".

Oh and every time I read one of acnumber9's upset posts about this or Ronnie I think of O'Sullivan rolling about the table laughing whilst doing this, this was for Hearne and for him lol. Ronnie is the best player ever, one of the best sportsmen ever, he does what he wants!
 
Rushing around the table to make a 147 in less than five and a half minutes is brilliant show-boating. Opting not to attempt one, just to make a spectacle of your disinterest in what you deem a pitiful prize offering, is just silly.
 
Rushing around the table to make a 147 in less than five and a half minutes is brilliant show-boating. Opting not to attempt one, just to make a spectacle of your disinterest in what you deem a pitiful prize offering, is just silly.

He did the 146 though, it's basically the same thing in terms of difficulty and spectacle if you do it intentionally.
 
I don't see why anyone is bothered about this. At the end of the day it's Ronnie's decision what balls he pots on the table during a frame. Not his opponent's, not Barry Hearn's, just his own. The same with Messi's penalty, there is no rule that states he has to shoot directly at goal. Personally I don't think anyone has a right to complain about it because the only person it has affected is Ronnie by missing out on the £10K (plus guaranteed share of £2K highest break although he will probably get that anyway).
 
All the people weeping about being disrespectful to the paying fans or even the 'spectacle' can lump it and get a life. He's just played out of his skin and given a 146 whilst laughing and all this just after battering all the top players at the Masters!!

And as others have said, this will go down as one of Ronnies legendary moments so all those fans can go home and tell their mates they saw the day when he purposely refused a 147 instead of saying "yeah I saw number whatever of Ronnies long list of 147's".

Oh and every time I read one of acnumber9's upset posts about this or Ronnie I think of O'Sullivan rolling about the table laughing whilst doing this, this was for Hearne and for him lol. Ronnie is the best player ever, one of the best sportsmen ever, he does what he wants!
You have a weird love for O'Sullivan.
 
And for all the people who say do it and give it to charity, the money isn't going anywhere. Chances are someone who needs the money a bit more than Ronnie will make one this season, he didn't just turn around and burn a pile of £20's.
 
Take a look at BBC's video on their page and freeze at 1min21 when he's on the last red, look at the crowd behind him, all smiling away at what's going on and even before at 1min18, loads laughing, looks like they had a great time for "their money". If only people spent half as much time getting into a frenzy over the so called peoples government sneaking in extra laws, more violation or taking more of their money away instead of trivial issues like what sportsmen are doing then maybe we'd have a lot better country/world for ourselves.Its ok though people, forget about 4 people lined up in the rich streets of London sleeping with a piece of cardboard dividing each one between their sleeping bags whilst the benefit scrounger Royal family roll down the road in their gold carriage, bigger issues at hand here because Ronnie is going for the pink, oh no! Who's better everyone, Ronaldo or Messi...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/snooker/35578152


You have a weird love for O'Sullivan.


I know mate, maybe I should post about 20 posts over the next couple of pages to prove that love... :lol: Ronnie trolled you good!