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I grew up watching Ebdon, so anything is an improvement :lol:

Agree on Higgins, though. Guilty as sin.
 
Higgins and Liang both looking decent thus far.
 
Been getting into Snooker a bit this week. Was around my grans for no reason and my uncle was there watching the Snooker, thought I'd join in and him being an avid snooker fan, he taught me a bunch of the terms and how it works and stuff. I learned it wasn't just a game of potting, but there's a certain tactical aspect about it and I've been really enjoying watching it. Also I really like O'Sullivan and Trump.
 
He bored his way to a world championship. Hate watching his games. Even when he scores high he doesn't excite.

Such bullshit.

Actually, never mind. If he bores you, he bores you. Can't do much about that. He's San Antonio Spurs of snooker.

Fan of his.
 
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Wow so little love for Selby on here! Unfortunately not everyone can play like O'Sullivan and Trump! I don't particularly mind anyone in the top 16 but Selby is one of my favourite players along with Robertson and Murphy. I watched him at the Crucible last year in his first session against McGill (a match he went to lose in the evening session) and 5 minutes after the match ended he walked past us in the street on the way in to town! You wouldn't catch many sportsmen doing that.
 
Trump, O'sullivan and Robertson are the only guys around who I really enjoy watching. The rest either annoy me or I find boring and scrappy.

I don't think I have watched a Selby match that wasn't scrappy.
 
Warning: Great match ahead.
 
Imagine Ronnie at the top of his form. He'd barely drop a frame. These guys are good but he's just so much better.
 
Spanking the world #1 having not played a major tournament for 9 months is an incredible feat for a mortal, but for an in-form Ronnie, it's just standard.
 
Ronnie doing what he always does at his best. Plays so smoothly and easily. It's so repetitive snooker. I've lost count of how many times I've head John parrott say ronnie is unstoppable over the past few years.

I really like Selby though. He's a great math player but crumbles under pressure quite alot. People say he is boring but i think he is far from it. His safety play is very entertaining imo.
 
Work sucks when I could be at home watching Robertson v Trump! Watched first frame on dinner hour but now have to do some work, should be a tasty match!
 
Odd match, thought Ronnie was going to blow it. Some amazing stuff in spells. He aint half a miserable git in his interviews though...
 
Love watching Ronnie when he's flying around the table like this. He looks a lot more focused and sharper than he did last night.
 
Wow just seen the score. Hope he doesn't go to sleep for a bit, like he did in the semi.
 
I'm sorry, it reads like you called someone diagnosed with depression a "miserable git"
Its a shame really as he missed a good ten years of his prime because of it.
 


He is pissing those two off so much there. It must be belittling for them to hear him say that when he is playing snooker as good as any they have played.
 


He is pissing those two off so much there. It must be belittling for them to hear him say that when he is playing snooker as good as any they have played.


I think they realise as much as anyone that Ronnie compares himself to himself only and there's no point in getting offended when he talks like that. The truth is that you can count on your fingers and toes the amount of times someone has beaten O'Sullivan in his whole career. The number of times he's beaten himself is far higher.


I can kind of understand his mentality in a way. I used to play a lot of pool and snooker myself and to be honest I think it's fairly unique in that I personally couldn't care less about winning or losing. I cared more about how I played and the personal goals I'd set myself during a game. If I felt there was a 30 or 40 break on and I fecked it up, even if I went on to win I'd feel a bit flat about it. If I managed to get that break and still lost I'd be in a better mood than if I'd won. The same goes for pool, if I look at the table and see a clearance, I beat myself up if I don't get it and couldn't care less for a scrappy win if I got another chance.

I think it comes from it being quite a lonely game. You put so many hours in practicing on your own, challenging yourself that when it comes to playing someone else you still have your own standards to uphold and if you don't hit them a win feels a bit hollow. I don't think there's any pleasure to be had from playing against someone you think you should easily beat either.

I also think it's fairly unique in that even though you are playing an opponent, you are actually playing the table each time. If you have a shot, technically your opponent doesn't matter as you can finish the game without them getting another go. I can't think of any other game where that applies? So in that sense you are only ever challenging yourself rather than your opponent. I don't know if I've explained it well enough to make sense but you might just about get the jist.
 
Ronnies mostly like that, he's down on himself, negative and overly critical, that's just how he is. He has his demons and battles but if he didn't not only would he be 15 world titles in by now but would be less of a character we love to watch and the antics at the table too, he'd be boring like Davis or Hendry were. On ability alone no way should either of those two, Higgins or anyone else be anyway near him and they know it.

What he did at that masters after being out so long then coming back beating world #1 Selby, beating the last guy to beat him who's World champ in Bingham and owning the final shows just how good he is on his day. Great to watch, just a shame it robs the fans when he doesn't enter, but that's his call.
 
Look on the bright side, if he'd entered every tournament for the last 5 years he'd be absolutely spent. No way is he mentally or physically strong enough to do that anymore.

If he can manage his workload to make sure he's fit for the triple crown every year then thats good for the sport and Ronnie. The fact he can now pick and choose is probably easier on his mental state than having to play the same 6 tournaments every year.

As for his interviews, it's clearly his armour. Nobody wins every time and Ronnie probably honestly expects himself to somewhere deep down.
 
To be fair to Ronnie I don't think we saw the best of him this tournament, he had his moments and his long potting was consistently good but he gave a lot of chances away. At the same time he wasn't really challenged in the end and I was hoping for Judd in the final.

Age catches up with everyone and he's going to decline at some point, that will be interesting how he deals with that. His inconsistency is something that still seems to really bug him.

I don't think he realises how lucky he is to wake up one week and play Snooker getting £200,000 for it.
 
To be fair to Ronnie I don't think we saw the best of him this tournament, he had his moments and his long potting was consistently good but he gave a lot of chances away. At the same time he wasn't really challenged in the end and I was hoping for Judd in the final.

Age catches up with everyone and he's going to decline at some point, that will be interesting how he deals with that. His inconsistency is something that still seems to really bug him.

I don't think he realises how lucky he is to wake up one week and play Snooker getting £200,000 for it.


If he's anything like me he won't handle it well. I was obviously a million, billion miles away from pro standard but as soon as I gave up, coming back to the table and playing below what you're used to just isn't fun at all. In your head you still have high standards and never hitting them is not fun.

As I said above I think he plays to challenge himself rather than to show he can beat others. He gets off on playing a particular brand and quality of snooker and if he can't play that he won't enjoy it, he won't care if it's still enough to beat others. He wants to get down, hit his groove and knock out centuries in 5 minutes. If he can't do that and realises he won't do it again he'll struggle to motivate himself to play at all.
 
146 there. Bound to get some idiots all riled up though.
 
Don't get why you wouldn't do that and then give it to charity or something.
 
Don't get why you wouldn't do that and then give it to charity or something.

I called my dad up to tell him, and he said the same thing :lol: It's ten grand, Ronnie, yer big prat.
 
:lol:Like the way he started laughing after doing it.
 
Yup. People who paid to watch him live must also be a bit disappointed having missed out on seeing a maximum.
Not really, not to anyone who knows about snooker. 146's are much rarer and it's a far better story.

Well that's a bit dicky.
Not really, the prize money for it is a bit crap and the crowd got to see something special.
 
Not really, not to anyone who knows about snooker. 146's are much rarer and it's a far better story.


Not really, the prize money for it is a bit crap and the crowd got to see something special.
Somebody deliberately being a dick isn't something special at all. They didn't exactly gasp in awe at what they were seeing.
 
Somebody deliberately being a dick isn't something special at all. They didn't exactly gasp in awe at what they were seeing.
feck them. They got to see the greatest snooker player of all time at close to his best. Just because they didn't get their maximum doesn't mean they have a right to whinge and moan. He isn't morally obligated to the crowds whims and feelings.