RAWK Goes Into Meltdown | 2013/14

Topic: Louis Van Gaal is the Manager of Manchester United
I think he'll be a disaster personally.
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Having Giggs as his assistant is liking United fans holding a knife to his back ready and waiting for if things don't go well.
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So from United's perspective, Van Gaal gets them back to top four/title contention, while bringing on Giggs to succeed him, being unlikely to want to linger more than 3 or 4 years at the most. The marriage of an egotistical Dutch control freak with the dynastic ambitions of the Twats of '92, overseen by lingering, brooding presence of Ferguson. Surely nothing can go wrong...
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He's mad obviously, but also a very, very good manager. He probably wont be there for long (he never seems to last in any job), but they are going to be much better next season.
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Tough first day for Rooney under Van Gaal. (stolen from @_Empique on Twitter)


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3 months max, before he gives a halftime teabaging to the white pele.
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Sacked by Christmas
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A lot of 'em rate van Gaal and feel he is exactly what we need in order to compete again. They also feel he is a lunatic and will at least be entertaining.
 
Amethyst said:
RAWK on van Gaal:



How many titles does Gerrard have?
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And it's 4 titles in 16 years, only 11 of which were spent at clubs. 4 in 11(with 4 of those years at AZ Alkmaar!). Not too shabby.

If you want to extend it out to 20 years, it's 7 titles in 15 years of club management. Again, with 4 years at AZ Alkmaar. SAF achieved 13 titles (with us) in 27 years. So they have around the same rate of league wins.
 
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If history has shown us anything it's when Madrid make someone their main target they inevitably get their man. Figo from Barca, Zidane from Juve, Kaka from Milan, Ronnie from us and Bale from Spurs. I can't remember them ever missing out. If they make a run at Suarez he's gone.
 
Lu Tze said:
And it's 4 titles in 16 years, only 11 of which were spent at clubs. 4 in 11(with 4 of those years at AZ Alkmaar!) and a WC final. Not too shabby.

If you want to extend it out to 20 years, it's 7 titles in 15 years of club management. Again, with 4 years at AZ Alkmaar. SAF achieved 13 titles (with us) in 27 years. So they have around the same rate of league wins.
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Whatever the stats are, it's hilarious how unaware he is of the irony of using titles to judge someone, when they haven't won the league in 24 years and counting. These are the same people who no doubt think that starfish Steve is a better player than Scholes.
 
goin4glory said:
If history has shown us anything it's when Madrid make someone their main target they inevitably get their man. Figo from Barca, Zidane from Juve, Kaka from Milan, Ronnie from us and Bale from Spurs. I can't remember them ever missing out. If they make a run at Suarez he's gone.
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Yep.

Maybe if Benzema wins them the Decima with a goal they'll back off and sign a youngster for rotation and the future instead, like Draxler?
 
KiD MoYeS said:
Topic: Louis Van Gaal is the Manager of Manchester United
A lot of 'em rate van Gaal and feel he is exactly what we need in order to compete again. They also feel he is a lunatic and will at least be entertaining.
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One poster made a point that having giggs would be a bad influence if things go wrong and i would agree.
 
goin4glory said:
If history has shown us anything it's when Madrid make someone their main target they inevitably get their man. Figo from Barca, Zidane from Juve, Kaka from Milan, Ronnie from us and Bale from Spurs. I can't remember them ever missing out. If they make a run at Suarez he's gone.
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They'd have to break the transfer record again..

Liverpool are under no obligation to sell given he's signed a new contract, and Suarez has less reason to want to leave than he did last summer. He's going nowhere.
 
Dominos said:
They'd have to break the transfer record again..

Liverpool are under no obligation to sell given he's signed a new contract, and Suarez has less reason to want to leave than he did last summer. He's going nowhere.
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Last season it was Arsenal doing the chasing. A completely different proposition to Real Madrid. I wouldn't be so hasty in ruling it out.
 
Dominos said:
They'd have to break the transfer record again..

Liverpool are under no obligation to sell given he's signed a new contract, and Suarez has less reason to want to leave than he did last summer. He's going nowhere.
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Correct.

Mrs Smoker said:
In what way would he be a bad influence?
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I'd guess they mean that if things go badly there will be cries for Giggs to take over.
 
Dominos said:
They'd have to break the transfer record again..

Liverpool are under no obligation to sell given he's signed a new contract, and Suarez has less reason to want to leave than he did last summer. He's going nowhere.
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The new contract could easily have a release clause. After the problems last summer I would be surprised if he signed a new deal without exact terms for a clause. Doubt Madrid would care about breaking the world record again either since they've been breaking their own record for more than decade now.
 
Lu Tze said:
And it's 4 titles in 16 years, only 11 of which were spent at clubs. 4 in 11(with 4 of those years at AZ Alkmaar!) and a WC final. Not too shabby.

If you want to extend it out to 20 years, it's 7 titles in 15 years of club management. Again, with 4 years at AZ Alkmaar. SAF achieved 13 titles (with us) in 27 years. So they have around the same rate of league wins.
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Van Gaal wasn't managing Holland then. Are you referring to the 2010 World Cup?
 
Regards Suarez, it's simply a case of how badly Real Madrid want him. Liverpool have no pressure to sell and it appears Suarez won't force a move but if they really want him, they'll get him.
 
I think Suarez will stay one more year. He doesn't really have an excuse to leave this year, and being worshiped in the way that only the Scouse can has got to feel pretty good.

It's patently obvious LFC won't have everything go their way again next season. They'll have the CL to deal with, and City/Chelsea/Us/Spurs/Arsenal should all be better. Plus I can't see Stevie G having as good a season again. This felt like he was squeezing out the final drops of energy left in his career.

I think Suarez will stay, LFC will have a very 'normal' year, but won't win anything of note, and that will be the natural point for him to leave to Madrid.
 
Beachryan said:
I think Suarez will stay one more year. He doesn't really have an excuse to leave this year, and being worshiped in the way that only the Scouse can has got to feel pretty good.

It's patently obvious LFC won't have everything go their way again next season. They'll have the CL to deal with, and City/Chelsea/Us/Spurs/Arsenal should all be better. Plus I can't see Stevie G having as good a season again. This felt like he was squeezing out the final drops of energy left in his career.

I think Suarez will stay, LFC will have a very 'normal' year, but won't win anything of note, and that will be the natural point for him to leave to Madrid.
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The one way I could see Suarez leave, and of course this is without knowing him at all, so pure conjecture out of my posterior. If he has a fantastic World Cup, makes an even bigger name for himself, etc. Then you have an already interested Real Madrid thinking that no matter what they pay for him they get it back fairly quickly in shirt sales. Then you have his agent thinking, gee that contract with Liverpool is nice and all, but now I can get even more if I just shop him around a little. Next thing you know Suarez is having his head turned by huge offers, seeing Real Madrid fans all over the place talking about how much they want him to come, etc. Suddenly Liverpool is getting a large transfer fee, Suarez is getting an even fatter new contract, and every player in Spain is getting a rabies vaccination.

Not saying it will happen, just that I could see it playing out like that.
 
JustAFan said:
The one way I could see Suarez leave, and of course this is without knowing him at all, so pure conjecture out of my posterior. If he has a fantastic World Cup, makes an even bigger name for himself, etc. Then you have an already interested Real Madrid thinking that no matter what they pay for him they get it back fairly quickly in shirt sales. Then you have his agent thinking, gee that contract with Liverpool is nice and all, but now I can get even more if I just shop him around a little. Next thing you know Suarez is having his head turned by huge offers, seeing Real Madrid fans all over the place talking about how much they want him to come, etc. Suddenly Liverpool is getting a large transfer fee, Suarez is getting an even fatter new contract, and every player in Spain is getting a rabies vaccination.

Not saying it will happen, just that I could see it playing out like that.
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You never ever ever make a transfer fee back in shirt sales.
 
Twigginater said:
You never ever ever make a transfer fee back in shirt sales.
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I don't think you can say that.

I wonder how many shirt sales a free Lewandoski will shift for Bayern this coming season.

United and Madrid sell on average 1,400,000 shirts a season worldwide claimed by some reports. It's technically very possible. Though I wouldn't say a £30m player would cover the cost in shirt sales, there isn't any reason a sub £15m player wouldn't cover his fee if it was the right player.
 
Ady87 said:
I don't think you can say that.

I wonder how many shirt sales a free Lewandoski will shift for Bayern this coming season.

United and Madrid sell on average 1,400,000 shirts a season worldwide claimed by some reports. It's technically very possible. Though I wouldn't say a £30m player would cover the cost in shirt sales, there isn't any reason a sub £15m player wouldn't cover his fee if it was the right player.
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The shirt manufacturer makes the money, not the club.

The shirt manufacturer pays for the chance to earn that money by paying the club to make its shirts.
 
Just realised, when they last won the league I was in the first grade. (Ups just discovered my age :) )

Lets play a game, what were you doing or where were you when Liverpool last won the league. :D
 
Mali_Zeus said:
Just realised, when they last won the league I was in the first grade. (Ups just discovered my age :) )

Lets play a game, what were you doing or where were you when Liverpool last won the league. :D
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I was in the 3rd year of secondary school.

In that time since Liverpool last won the league-
I finished school.
Worked at my first place of work for 13 years- I finished there in 2005 and have had various jobs in the last 9 years.
Met my first wife who I was with for 11 years.
Got married again,I've been with my second wife 7 years.
I have a 17 year old son who has never seen Liverpool win the league, Liverpool last won the league 7 years before he was born.
 
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