RAWK Goes Into Meltdown | 2013/14

Lowkey said:
Knock knock
Who's there?
Steven
Steven who?
Gerrard.
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It's funny because Gerrard is a joke. :)

Incidentally, people who are moaning about this thread going OT: You're right, of course, but if you want to get it back on topic, you have to go and find something funny on RAWK and post it here. Hard to stay on topic when there's no topic. That means you @C.M.P and you @verminater.
 
From the 'welcome back to the champions league' thread

You know somewhere out there in Europe, other top clubs are clapping their hands - "Welcome back, Liverpool. See you next year"
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northbynorthwest said:
Yea but you wouldnt replace them with someone held in such regard. Its assistant manager so its not a deal breaker. ferguson had mike phelan who was the polar opposite of ferguson. When Brian kidd started questioning ferguson on who he was buying, he was out the door pretty fast. Its just my opinion but i would have went for someone like nicky butt as assistant. Someone who is inconspicuous and stays quite.

You are inferring as well that things go bad and then giggs starts questioning the manager. I am saying that things go bad the minute giggs questions the manager and thats when it goes downhill.

What happened with moyes was he lost the support of key people. Scholes, giggs and the senior players. Its a bit like the roman senate in that when the emperor lost the support of key allies within the senate, he lost his job usually. The class of 92 were great players but they are a bad influence. It bears similarities to how liverpool went, in that all these footballers retired and went into the media and started questioning what subsequent managers were doing. The man in charge simply cannot run the club with these voices.

And the fans as well hold them in high regard. If paul scholes came out tommmorow and said Van Gaal was a bad choice as a manager, Van gaal may as well get a new job straight away. The presence of these guys, scholes and giggs in particular carry so much weight, and when they are not happy the players, fans and board of directors feed into it.
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Sorry but that's not how Rome during the time of the Emperors worked.
 
C.M.P said:
From the 'welcome back to the champions league' thread.
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:lol:

Last time Liverpool were in Europe the Debrecen keeper was paid off to let in more that 2.5 goals and they still only won 1-0. One of the more underrated funny Liverpool moments from the last few years.
 
Conrad said:
Moyes lost the support of key people because the players quickly came to the conclusion through his coaching and the results they brought that he wasn't up to much. If Van Gaal suffers the same then the problem will be his coaching (not likely to happen) or the results not the fact that he hasn't been surrounded by yes men who will back him no matter what.
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Jose mourinho at madrid had players who criticized him and it was detrimental to that madrid team. Sergio Ramos was not happy. Casillas was not happy.

Ancellotti at chelsea, had a club owner questioning him. Turned out bad.

Van Gaal himself at both Barca and Bayern, fell out with players.

Brian Clough at leeds.

Pep said one of the reasons he left Barca was that the board were involving themselves too much.

My point is not that you need to be in the company of people who back you. My point is that when you have influences that undermine the manager, that club isnt going to do well. All im saying is that giggs has to back Van Gaal unconditionally for the system to work.

So if danny Welbeck says he wants to play up front or else he will leave. Well Van Gaal says off you go and giggs agrees. Now i question whether giggs will agree with Van Gaal 100%, given how he has played with these players and is friends with these players.

The ability to make tough decisions is how ferguson worked. So hed know players for years and then get rid of them promptly. I hope giggs can do that, but i dont think he can.
 
The Mitcher said:
Sorry but that's not how Rome during the time of the Emperors worked.
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"With the Gallic Wars concluded, the Senate ordered Caesar to lay down his military command and return to Rome. Caesar refused, and marked his defiance in 49 BC by crossing the Rubicon with a legion, leaving his province and illegally entering Roman territory under arms.[6]Civil war resulted, from which he emerged as the unrivaled leader of Rome."

Civil war huh!!!
 
northbynorthwest said:
"With the Gallic Wars concluded, the Senate ordered Caesar to lay down his military command and return to Rome. Caesar refused, and marked his defiance in 49 BC by crossing the Rubicon with a legion, leaving his province and illegally entering Roman territory under arms.[6]Civil war resulted, from which he emerged as the unrivaled leader of Rome."

Civil war huh!!!
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Yeah before Augustus became the first true emperor, Caesar made the senate redundant, it was just a symbol.
 
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The Mitcher said:
Yeah before Augustus became the first true emperor, Caesar made the senate redundant, it was just a symbol.
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They still started a civil war, a bit like what happened at our club, not saying moyes should have stayed. What you need to make things work is totalitarian dictatorship. Thats how things get done. Vlad the Impaler, Mao, Ho Chi Minh, Stalin all had total control.
 
That FA post :lol:. Ah, Liverpool. When they're not being praised by the world for being the best super duper tip top team in the history of the universe, their cheats and racists are being unfairly persecuted because of... I'm not sure the reason why. It's usually at this point in a Scouse's lecture that I just drown out their nasally shrieks by going into a fit of laughter.
 
Black Adder said:
He seems to have finally put aside bad temperament and when fully focused on the playing there's no better striker than him in PL.
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Yer'What?... He was as bad as ever, it was just a bizarre and seemingly unanimous decision from the referees to either ignore it or award him everything. He wasn't getting a single thing last season and this season he got everything. One thing that was in his favor is that he didn't complete a cnuts hatty of getting banned for being a scumbag. Which is.. I guess an improvement.
 
Please no, I thought we'd escaped the godawful poetry after they bottled the league and their captain humiliated himself. Hundreds of thousands of pages binned or hidden away in the back of a cupboard just waiting for the day to come. God help us if the unthinkable ever actually happens.
 
goldenstatesplash said:
Yer'What?... He was as bad as ever, it was just a bizarre and seemingly unanimous decision from the referees to either ignore it or award him everything. He wasn't getting a single thing last season and this season he got everything. One thing that was in his favor is that he didn't complete a cnuts hatty of getting banned for being a scumbag. Which is.. I guess an improvement.
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Well he didn't bite anyone or provoke anyone with racist slurs.

Also don't remember him stamping on anyone as he did in previous 2 seasons in PL, esp. last year.

He had some of his antics such as occasional dives, but everyone dives these days so don't see that as such a big deal.

I'm really surprised how he behaved this season, but that's just my opinon.
 
Black Adder said:
Well he didn't bite anyone or provoke anyone with racist slurs.
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That's what I meant when I said 'he didn't complete the cnuts hatty of getting banned third season in a row' so an improvement..
Also don't remember him stamping on anyone as he did in previous 2 seasons in PL, esp. last year.
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I remember one incident of stamping earlier on in the season against .... Someone because I distinctly remember going 'this fecking animal gets away with it again.. amazing..' but I can't remember which game it was and I'd have to go trawling through games to find it but you'd probably find the same amount of antics. Positive press has aided his getting away with everything which also is just plain bizarre as they completely CRUHU HUUUUcified him in the last two seasons. Suddenly everyones lining up to bum him.. Okay then..

He had some of his antics such as occasional dives, but everyone dives these days so don't see that as such a big deal.
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So... Pretty much the same thing as the last two and a bit years really. Diving and skanking around like a slimeball. The one that springs to mind is when he went down clutching his ankle with his arm raised only to spring back up when someone won the ball near him to get on the end of a chance. Inconceivable really.

I'm really surprised how he behaved this season, but that's just my opinon.
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Nothing wrong with that at all. I am surprised that he behaved the same and was rewarded myself. But we don't have to agree on everything :D.
 
Van Gaal will be a disaster. The players will be in full revolt once he gets his claws into them.
 
@ the FA tweet. I can't grasp why they're all so fecking stupid. Seriously, I know Merseyside is a grim place after 24 years but intelligence doesn't just die because you live there. Liverpool fans though...jesus christ.

@ the YAWN bollocks. Why do they persist on adding that to everything they ever fecking do?

I hate them so bloody much.
 
I hate You'll Never Walk Alone, it's just the worst mantra ever. So, so, so embarrassing. Makes me cringe every time I read it.
 
"Hey Caroline, your fiancee ditched you, but don't worry, Y.N.W.A." "We go again."

Mind boggling.
 
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