RAWK Goes Into Meltdown (2012/2013)

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Meh. I don't buy the conspiracy. I think you do get more calls in your favour than we do, but I don't think there is any concerted conspiracy or corruption behind it.

And Suarez is definitely a dirty player, or at best carelessly clumsy. I actually think this part is worse than his diving, which tends to get way overplayed. He doesn't actually dive that much these days.

Adam, when he was still here, was much more cynical than Luis in that regard. But Chad is an old-fashioned hardworking Scot and Luis is a theatrical South American, so they get a different story spun for them.

I do think he dived for the penalty claim, but he probably didn't see it that way. Reckon most latin players think that as long as there is contact, they are justified in throwing themselves to the ground. There might have been, but not enough to cause that tumble.

Another player might have gotten the penalty and I think we are slowly moving towards a state of affairs where dives like that become seen as legitimately drawing the foul, but we shouldn't be. Contact doesn't and shouldn't automatically equate to "foul."
I'm not saying you do personally, but on rawk it seems they believe in it when certain acts by your own players have been completely forgotten about, or acts of Suarez personally where they feel it is him who is being victimised by the refs in this league. He does himself no favours. Ronaldo had a reputation when he was here, Drogba had a reputation, and the more Suarez goes to ground with minimal contact the more he will be shown a yellow card, and whether it's right or wrong he will only have himself to blame.

I don't believe how anyone can sit there with a straight face and claim Suarez isn't a dirty player, I can only imagine how much Liverpool fans would despise him if he played for us, and vice versa, much like Ronaldo. Ronaldo didn't have a dirty side to his game other than the dives and the childish acts on the pitch, Suarez always has done as shown with the ear biting incident.
 
Reckon most latin players think that as long as there is contact, they are justified in throwing themselves to the ground. There might have been, but not enough to cause that tumble.

Those pesky Latin players eh?

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Those pesky Latin players eh?

I am not saying Latin players dive and Brits don't. In the very same post you thought you'd get a dig in, I had a go at Adam for being a more cynical diver than Suarez. And yes, Gerrard is a cynical diver as soon as he gets close to the penalty area.

What I said was that I reckon a lot of Latin players don't see it as gamesmanship if there is contact.

Sometimes, I do wish posters would actually read posts instead of just picking out something out of context and thinking "this looks like something I can have a dig at" as soon as they see a Liverpool fan posting. But I know it's asking a lot.
 
Oh go wash the sand out of your fanny will you.....

Latin has nothing to do with it, its the modern game, players feel contact and they go down.... we've our share of them aswell, Young will go down if he suspects the opposition player has thought about him in the 3 weeks before the game.....
 
I am not saying Latin players dive and Brits don't. In the very same post you thought you'd get a dig in, I had a go at Adam for being a more cynical diver than Suarez. And yes, Gerrard is a cynical diver as soon as he gets close to the penalty area.

What I said was that I reckon a lot of Latin players don't see it as gamesmanship if there is contact.

Sometimes, I do wish posters would actually read posts instead of just picking out something out of context and thinking "this looks like something I can have a dig at" as soon as they see a Liverpool fan posting. But I know it's asking a lot.
don't worry, it's the same whether you're a United fan, Pool fan, Chelsea fan, etc.
People on here tend to quote one measily part of your post while completely disregarding everything else you wrote in the hopes of them "making a point"
 
I am not saying Latin players dive and Brits don't. In the very same post you thought you'd get a dig in, I had a go at Adam for being a more cynical diver than Suarez. And yes, Gerrard is a cynical diver as soon as he gets close to the penalty area.

What I said was that I reckon a lot of Latin players don't see it as gamesmanship if there is contact.

Sometimes, I do wish posters would actually read posts instead of just picking out something out of context and thinking "this looks like something I can have a dig at" as soon as they see a Liverpool fan posting. But I know it's asking a lot.

So Suarez diving with every little minimal contact and not thinking of that as cheating is a cultural thing now? Like calling someone 'negro' not being regarded as racist...

Poor Suarez is just so missunderstood in all aspects of his game... Biting someone is how they hug someone in South America, right?
 
Sometimes, I do wish posters would actually read posts instead of just picking out something out of context and thinking "this looks like something I can have a dig at" as soon as they see a Liverpool fan posting. But I know it's asking a lot.

Remember that love-letter B19 wrote about Suarez and his cheating being ok because he wasn't Ronaldo or something.

That was funny.

So Suarez diving with every little minimal contact and not thinking of that as cheating is a cultural thing now? Like calling someone 'negro' not being regarded as racist...

Poor Suarez is just so missunderstood in all aspects of his game... Biting someone is how they hug someone in South America, right?


Jesus. It's like posters took it as a challenge to come out of the woodwork. Starting to think this is an elaborate WUM or something.
 
It's not just the diving issue with Suarez, it's other parts of his character too.

He cheats, moans, pulls hair like a big girl, bites people etc. Regarding the race issue last season, I don't believe he's a racist but I believe he wanted to rile Patrice Evra up and unfortunately, the only way he knew how was through the colour of his skin.

Suarez' problem is that he'll use anything he can to gain an advantage on the pitch. It's pretty disgusting that he chose a person's colour to do this.

Liverpool fans moan that he should be given a break, but can you blame fans for reacting the way they do to him?
 
Oh go wash the sand out of your fanny will you.....

Latin has nothing to do with it, its the modern game, players feel contact and they go down.... we've our share of them aswell, Young will go down if he suspects the opposition player has thought about him in the 3 weeks before the game.....
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Jesus. It's like posters took it as a challenge to come out of the woodwork. Starting to think this is an elaborate WUM or something.

It's just funny seeing you in here defending Liverpools honour in the face of laughing at the massive RAWK bell-ends.
 
What I really love about the never ending Suarez saga is how every time there is an incident with him filming or doing something else more dispicable, possibly, the manager or a teammate will go on record to say they never saw the incident, but he is such a great character and works hard, and he is also a very gifted footballer. OK...
 
Probably. I believe this has been discussed at length regarding NJred. Who tried to claim that this wasn't a United forum. Despite being a sub category on a forum predominately made up of United fans under the banner of "A Manchester United Forum". Or 'The Leading Manchester United Forum"
 
Probably. I believe this has been discussed at length regarding NJred. Who tried to claim that this wasn't a United forum. Despite being a sub category on a forum predominately made up of United fans under the banner of "A Manchester United Forum". Or 'The Leading Manchester United Forum"

Really? :wenger:
 
Why the feck is B19 even in this thread in the first place? Is B19 a RAWK member?

Since 2003. I don't go there anymore though. The lunatics have taken over the asylum.
 
It's not just the diving issue with Suarez, it's other parts of his character too.

He cheats, moans, pulls hair like a big girl, bites people etc. Regarding the race issue last season, I don't believe he's a racist but I believe he wanted to rile Patrice Evra up and unfortunately, the only way he knew how was through the colour of his skin.

Suarez' problem is that he'll use anything he can to gain an advantage on the pitch. It's pretty disgusting that he chose a person's colour to do this.

Liverpool fans moan that he should be given a break, but can you blame fans for reacting the way they do to him?

My view exactly.
 
It's a tug of the hair. An utterly trivial act. Speaking of petty, there is some irony in your lot repeatedly bringing it up more than a year after it happened.

I don't think Rafael was too bothered. It's amusing to see how it still riles your lot. I hope he pulls it again next week.

You're just jealous because you'll never get that treatment from him.
 
Why the feck is B19 even in this thread in the first place? Is B19 a RAWK member?

Because this is a football forum and we welcome fans from all teams as long as they are polite.

Get the hint?
 
Based on the I want your pics thread, I wouldn't expect B19 to understand why a hair-pull would rile someone.

Heh
 
Oh go wash the sand out of your fanny will you.....

Latin has nothing to do with it, its the modern game, players feel contact and they go down.... we've our share of them aswell, Young will go down if he suspects the opposition player has thought about him in the 3 weeks before the game.....

You are right that it is now part of the modern game but the Latin's have been doing it since the 1950's...

As a consequence, culturally, it is more prevalent in South America and in Spain and Italy rather than the UK.
 
If "as long as they are polite" is the official RedCafe policy, I think it's time to pack it all up.

If you don't want to talk to non MU fans put us all on ignore or feel free to pack it all up and find a new home.
 
This thread has gone massive off-topic.

Lets get back to laughing at the spastic scousers.
 
If you don't want to talk to non MU fans put us all on ignore or feel free to pack it all up and find a new home.

Oh, I'm very happy to talk to non MU fans. Some of them are more reasonable than most people on this site. I just don't understand why B19 feels the need to defend Liverpool in a thread that isn't about Liverpool, but about RAWK.

I also don't know why you're being so aggressive. I have nothing in particular against Leeds fans. Actually, you're the only one I've ever met.
 
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