Another gem from Andy @ allerton
Well travelled eh Andy, you muppet!
You really are a bitter fecking idiot
He's definitely on a WUM there.
As if a Liverpool fan would have a job, let alone more than one.
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He's definitely on a WUM there.
As if a Liverpool fan would have a job, let alone more than one.
Who managed to maintain an account over there long enough to have that one posted? Own up!
Steve is A@A and I claim my five pounds. The part about "queing to throw verses of delight and wonder at him" puts it more or less beyond doubt.A@A said:
They are obviously not familiar with Sir Alex's trade union/shop steward background, you would think the tossers would do some research before spouting their bile.
Another gem from Andy @ allerton
You really are a bitter fecking idiot
You should find the shite he spouted about the Smith/Ambulance incident saying that he watched the Ambulance cause he was working as a steward or some tripe, only to be shot down by one of the other posters who was actually there and gave a stoner account of it actually happening..
he's such a Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime.
Nah! I imagine Ass@A has been ever so insulted before now.
God, they are such Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime. I think they actually believe the conspiracy bollox they spout. From the SAF thread from steveeastend.
Yeah Alan Wiley, that little known referee
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/7922069.stm
Yeah Alan Wiley, that little known referee
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/7922069.stm
He's always going on about conspiracies, SAF only being successful because the league is bent etc.
I can believe it. We focus on A@A, but steveeastend and LondonRedMan are far worse.
steveeastend
Legs it, grabs the popcorn and enjoys the downfall of Man Utd, beginning in Europe.
Could there anything better?
They ALWAYS were only based on the indivual class of some players, Giggs, Scholes, Rooney, Ronaldo and Teves lately, now we see the class of Mr. Alex Slurgeson which is very average as soon as the money and for that the big signings are taken away from him.
This is exactly how the Bundesliga started.
But he's the funniest troll ever! And I've been online since the early 90's and stumbling on 'My butt in tights!' back in '94 while looking for vintage Melchior performances on usenet.I've never been so insulted! And neither has Andy, I imagine.
Of course.
Another season Tottenham and us getting stronger?Er, yeah OK steveeastend. Are we sure he is not a Caf WUM? Those guys must give themselves stomach ulcers over this shit...
He has a point, when has Sir Alex ever built up a small team without giant funds? The man has done his homework...
Even the argument that 'yeah he just spent a lot' should be balanced against Andy Carroll, Charlie Adam, no assists Downing etc...Amazing they forget that it is not always a fast track to success.
'One must have a heart of stone to watch that without laughing.'
how much weight did the guy put on from the time he joined them till he left?
That is the only statistic that matters.
That is the only statistic that matters.
another loss and they will have the Rafa banners at the kop.
I have to admit at the start there was a fair bit of intrigue and genuine fairy tale magic there. Football was different 6 years ago imo. More fantasy.
But have a look at the state of him by the end. He looks like a deranged mental patient. Clinging to any solitary hope of a trophy. No wonder they absolutely lap it up.
It's very clever corruption really when you think about it. Knowing to let Blackburn, Arsenal, Chelsea and City have a title now and again so as to not make it so obvious.
It's just a coincidence that those sides were better than us in those seasons and deserved to win the league. Genius stuff from Fergie and his brown paper bags stuffed with fifty-pound notes.
The basic mentality is that unless Liverpool win it, it must be corrupt. It starts from the flawed fan premise that "Liverpool are the best team in the world" akin to "my child is the prettiest child in the world" and ends with "the league is corrupt" rather than accepting Liverpool aren't amongst the best four or five sides in the country right now.
Cognitive dissonance.
It's just a coincidence that those sides were better than us in those seasons and deserved to win the league. Genius stuff from Fergie and his brown paper bags stuffed with fifty-pound notes.
The basic mentality is that unless Liverpool win it, it must be corrupt. It starts from the flawed fan premise that "Liverpool are the best team in the world" akin to "my child is the prettiest child in the world" and ends with "the league is corrupt" rather than accepting Liverpool aren't amongst the best four or five sides in the country right now.
Cognitive dissonance.
At least most of them acknowledge his achievements but I really don't get them saying he is a cnut of a man and a horrible human being. Sure he's acted the arse to many people in order to get the club where it is but imo he's also a cracking person. I've said it before and I'm sure you can ask anyone in the game, even his greatest rivals and they'd say what a gent he is. So many stories about him helping people out in the past but they get forgotten.
I've always said that Ferguson's legacy will be impacted negatively by the way he treats the media.
Everyone knows he's probably the best manager of the last 25 years, everyone knows he's willing to help other people in the game, but he kicks journalists out of press conferences for no reason whatsoever.
It's a minor thing, but given they're going to be the ones that write about him for evermore, it is going to have an effect on how he is portrayed as a person.
Everyone knows he's probably the best manager of the last 25 years, everyone knows he's willing to help other people in the game, but he kicks journalists out of press conferences for no reason whatsoever.
It's a minor thing, but given they're going to be the ones that write about him for evermore, it is going to have an effect on how he is portrayed as a person.
Didnt he suppose to control the media?
Only some journalists of today might write him a sour review. Years down the line journalists will revere him as the best manager and one who took a non-nonsense approach when dealing with journalists of the past who stepped out of line. They won't hold any personal grudge themselves.
He also has a great rapport with certain journalists and is very media-friendly when he wants to be. He and they know that it's often a game of cat and mouse. Additionally you'd imagine that after he retires he will spend a couple years making appearances in the media which will help too.
In fairness to RAWK, I read that thread and there were only two/three deluded muppets in the comments(the decline and retirement idiot being the biggest one). Even A@A was reasonable in the thread. Most of the comments were fair and called Fergie's record spot on and had United down as in the hunt for the title at the least(which is my assessment of United this season).
There won't be newspapers "for evermore".
The reality is that the legend will only grow after he's gone. Rather than the usual "United lost their latest game, Fergies shit" stuff, his entire career will be looked at all together. And the achievement will be impossible to knock. What journalists there are still knocking about will be quick to tell tales of their dealings with the great man, to associate themselves with the legend.
alastair getting it wrong again. Hardly surprising
No, obviously in the future no journalists will take a personal grudge. You make the point that some journos step out of line - that used to be the case for him banning them, but he's started to ban journalists for getting things right as well now, as referenced by the Everton match.
I highly doubt after Ferguson retires he's going to lower himself to being a guest on Super Sunday, but we'll wait and see.
A final point - it's a lovely little story too.
Last year when I worked in France, I managed to get work experience with L'Equipe for a couple of weeks. I was speaking to one of their feature writers who told me that he once attended a Ferguson press conference in order to get some quotes for a piece he was writing. His English isn't the best, apparently, and when he begun to ask him a question from the floor, Ferguson didn't understand his accent and said 'I don't understand you, we're moving on.' Cue laughter from the rest of the room. Needless to say, this bloke told me that the article he wrote up on Ferguson that went out to their 2m readership was a hell of a lot more negative than it otherwise would have been.
Maybe Ferguson doesn't care, maybe you don't care. I'm just speculating on how this will affect how he is considered. The fact that he's a brilliant manager has never been in question.
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who cares what journalists or even neutral fans think of Ferguson?
His record will speak volumes, I am quite sure Fergie wont give a rats ass about anything else.
His record will speak volumes, I am quite sure Fergie wont give a rats ass about anything else.
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