RAWK Goes Into Meltdown (2012/2013)

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Did Liverpool invent Total football?
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feck knows what they're on about there. Cruyff learned his trade from Michels, one must presume, who brought him to Barca after he took the post as manager there himself. Don't think Shankly - God rest his soul in these Suarezish times - had anything to do with it.

They probably look back at their intensely boring passing game of the 80s and think it was some kind of total football. Totally mind-numbing, it was - I'll give 'em that.
 
In the Auld Arse thread, an older fan speaks sense:

That makes at least two of us.

His gutter rat behavior, while understandable from his background in the barrios of Uruguay, does not translate to the game as it is played in more civilised countries.

He's a 3 time offender and 2 of them have been with us. I don't want to be holding the hot potato the next time he loses it on the pitch.

At this point I hate Suarez for what he has done to us as a Club.

He's a loose cannon and all of ours forgive him anything and blame everyone else because he scores goals.

Imo, no man is bigger than the Club and he's now an in demand liability.

The fact that we may sell and get a load of cash from a bidding war is slim consolation considering we were using him as our main man in an assault on CL position next year.

That's probably all shot to feck now
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Never mind the 'barrios of Uruguay', we didn't even have a street...on the mean streets of South Wales. Nevertheless, I didn't bite people arms and legs off.
 
Chesterlestreet said:
feck knows what they're on about there. Cruyff learned his trade from Michels, one must presume, who brought him to Barca after he took the post as manager there himself. Don't think Shankly - God rest his soul in these Suarezish times - had anything to do with it.

They probably look back at their intensely boring passing game of the 80s and think it was some kind of total football. Totally mind-numbing, it was - I'll give 'em that.
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The thread is pretty incredible. Here's a partial quote:

It's really not debatable. Kenny and Clarke's method of training is based on "Block Practice" and requires a lot of repetitions but has demonstrably less retention and transference to the game. Rodgers' method is based on global integrated training and contextual inference, which puts players continually in situations and near-match pressure with repetitions of the situations they will find themselves in, allied to the principles of play he prefers. This method has a demonstrably greater carryover to the game, and is the method favoured by continental coaches, including Barcelona and Ajax. So yes, training is a big part of why Suarez is scoring more goals this season.
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Other than sounding like some incredibly clichéd management statement in my company with many buzzwords, it misses one huge, huge point: Liverpool are more impressive under Rodgers because he isn't persisting with Carroll, Drowning, Adam and Henderson in the same team. This isn't down to tiki-taka miracles or anything - it's largely down to not using completely useless players.
 
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i for one think he is wholly responsible for this because his action allowed the FA and Media to do what they did, thats not baying for his blood, you cannot defend someone simply because he wears our shirts, he was at fault, the ban is criminally harsh , but he gave them the chance to administer it.
its what we call in my day job Actions and Consequences
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it was the idea that supporters in here are maybe not such great supporters unless they type feck off FA all the time that i was querying, the notion that if you believe Luis is initially responsible for this makes you some shithouse fan. If thats so i am a shithouse fan. He knows the situation with the media and the FA and yet his gives them this opportunity to act against him and the club
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Deluded Scouser #267548675 said:
I dream of the day a South American player publicly refuses to entertain joining the Mancs (or preferably any club than us) and stating it's because of how Luis was treated over the Evra affair.
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Bonkers.
 
Let's wave hankies to show Luis how much we support him. But, wait a minute.... where can we get 45,000 hankies?

It would be good to have something we can all do. Without looking like a wally (silly t shirt etc), without fear of arrest (smoke bombs etc). We are never going to get a mosaic , although that would be good. So, what about this. I have always liked the way the Spanish wave their white hankies in complete disdain when they aint happy. It's symbolic and visible. I’m sure everyone had got an old relative that has one. I know my dad has always got one in his pocket! ?
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Contextual interference eh? What's his thought on ephemeral propensity and how it affects platonic hogwash?
 
I dream of the day a South American player publicly refuses to entertain joining the Mancs (or preferably any club than us) and stating it's because of how Luis was treated over the Evra affair.
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:lol:
 
Some interesting Quotes from Arevalo Rios interview which he gave to Radio Sarandi, He's a Suarez Team mate from National team.


Arevalo Rios: "The papers in England are coyotes. They try to rip Luis' (Suarez) image to pieces. It disgusts our nation."
Arevalo Rios: "I speak to Luis, he feels sadness for the local people admirers, guilt for compatriots. But for those comedians, there is anger.
Arevalo Rios: "They try to run him away, they do not understand that it has only angered him to stay for longer & longer."
Arevalo Rios: "To me Luis says, "I owe debt I cannot repay". The club & people have great kindness. I tell him, honour it."
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I'm liking the cut of Arevalo Rios jib..
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He's pretty much spot on...
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That last line!!
Beautiful
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I want more Uruguayans at our club...
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But it thought the British media said he's considering leaving?

How would a close friend of Luis' know more than the British media?
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I would love it if Cavani put in a transfer request and stated publically that he only wants to join Luis at Liverpool.
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Literally lol'd reading those posts. Especially the one about Cavani. :lol:
 
make him captain. feck the lot of them.
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is fecking right
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love him even more...his like Liverpool in every way, hated by everyone but his own
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No matter what he does he is worth it... I fecking love him
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That Luis Suarez! Most of the gobshites in the after match thread wanting him gone probably never went through a turnstile in their life. This little fella is a gem, non stop work ethic, will to win, hatred of losing. See the state of him when the final whistle went against Zenit?
He's the best player we've had for years and because he loses his rag every now and then we should listen to the shitehawks in the media and turn our backs on him? Bollocks to that, he is our mad little genius and we should treasure him and try and find a few more players with his grit and feck you attitude.
Ps I know it's wrong but I still can't stop laughing at the look on his face as he went for his nibble!
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The best player in the world by the way, let Bacon face and his mates drive him out if you like, but don't get it wrong, he's the best we've had since Kenny.
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Hope he changes his celebration to biting his own arm.
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Honestly in my mind, Luis is the most valuable player in the world.
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He's like a character from a spaghetti western.
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Il Cunto
 
I dream of the day a South American player publicly refuses to entertain joining the Mancs (or preferably any club than us) and stating it's because of how Luis was treated over the Evra affair.
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Would be great wouldn't it.

Falcao: "Er ... no. Sorry Mister Bacon, I won't join you"
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I think we should make Luis captain and then when we win domestic trophies in the near future he can go up and shit in the trophy and say "That's what I think of the FA".
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:lol::lol:
 
love him even more...his like Liverpool in every way, hated by everyone but his own
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Ian Ayre: "Someone said to me recently that if you take a club like Man United, people either love them or hate them – it's the Marmite effect. But with Liverpool we're more like everyone's second favourite team''
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Which is it?
 
Arevalo Rios: "To me Luis says, "I owe debt I cannot repay". The club & people have great kindness. I tell him, honour it."
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To be fair, that is a nice thing to say. He might be a cnut on the pitch, but he really knows how to get the fans on his side.
 
He's known to be a good guy off the pitch. Unfortunately for him, the FA are irrationally biased against racists who bite people.
 
SteveJ said:
He's known to be a good guy off the pitch. Unfortunately for him, the FA are irrationally biased against racists who bite people.
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He maybe a racist, biter, cnut, dickhead, shit teeth, cheat, arsehole, ugly and a Poyet shagger. But atleast he loves the fans.
 
The best player in the world by the way, let Bacon face and his mates drive him out if you like, but don't get it wrong, he's the best we've had since Kenny.
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Honestly in my mind, Luis is the most valuable player in the world.
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I thought that Lucas Leiva was. Now which of them is the best player ever never ever?
 
In the spirit of magnanimity I will say this: I hope, for their sake, that they never wake up from this insane revery. Because if they do the result will be mass suicide. Nobody could live with the shame. Grown men dreaming up something like that Cavani scenario. I can't even laugh at this: It's heart breaking stuff. They need help now - Cameron needs to intervene, send up a team of men in white coats, preferably waving white handkerchiefs.
 
One thing I wonder if the scousers ever stop to think about when they run out this nonsense about the FA being against "foreign" players is that the PL squads are rought 60-65% Non-british (I think that is the figure I read someplace). So according to them the FA is out to get the majority of players in PL.

Makes sense.
 
What a golden period it is to be a United fan. Not only do we continually win trophies, over and over again, for decades... but Liverpool are generally fairly rubbish, and as an institution have basically gone insane. It won't last forever, of course, but while it does it's fecking brilliant.
 
Plechazunga said:
What a golden period it is to be a United fan. Not only do we continually win trophies, over and over again, for decades... but Liverpool are generally fairly rubbish, and as an institution have basically gone insane. It won't last forever, of course, but while it does it's fecking brilliant.
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Which don't you think will last forever? Liverpool's continual demise or United winning trophies? Because the way it's going, I don't think Liverpool are going to recover. Certainly not if they lose Suarez without being able to replace him with a player of similar calibre. They need to win a major trophy that isn't the League Cup if they want to attract a big name player and I don't see that happening.
 
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Which don't you think will last forever? Liverpool's continual demise or United winning trophies? Because the way it's going, I don't think Liverpool are going to recover. Certainly not if they lose Suarez without being able to replace him with a player of similar calibre. They need to win a major trophy that isn't the League Cup if they want to attract a big name player and I don't see that happening.
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Both. I mean, Liverpool rebounding is somewhat less likely than United falling off, which is inevitable at some point.

But without meaning to party-poop the Meltdown thread, I think they're pretty likely to get back to winning ways eventually. They're too big a club not to. This isn't Notts Forest we're talking about, they have a huge global fan-base and are still considered one of the biggest clubs in the world.

Certainly the longer they go on being shite on-field and embarrassing themselves off-, the more their history and glamour lose their lustre. But they've got a while to go yet.
 
That'sHernandez said:
Which don't you think will last forever? Liverpool's continual demise or United winning trophies? Because the way it's going, I don't think Liverpool are going to recover. Certainly not if they lose Suarez without being able to replace him with a player of similar calibre. They need to win a major trophy that isn't the League Cup if they want to attract a big name player and I don't see that happening.
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Your looking at two of the biggest/greatest teams in world football.

Liverpool will sadly win trophies in the future and also sadly we will have a period when we we do not win things...it is inevitable.

As Phlech said, this is a golden period to be a united supporter and we should enjoy.
 
Plechazunga said:
Both. I mean, Liverpool rebounding is somewhat less likely than United falling off, which is inevitable at some point.

But without meaning to party-poop the Meltdown thread, I think they're pretty likely to get back to winning ways eventually. They're too big a club not to. This isn't Notts Forest we're talking about, they have a huge global fan-base and are still considered one of the biggest clubs in the world.

Certainly the longer they go on being shite on-field and embarrassing themselves off-, the more their history and glamour lose their lustre. But they've got a while to go yet.
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They have done a lot of damage to themselves in the last few years though. It will be very hard for them to go in Champions League, even harder to win the league.

It's hard to know the future, but I wouldn't bet that Liverpool will have the same fate as Aston Villa and Everton, being sometimes ago a big club. And if the UEFA Finantial Fair Play will not be respected then I really can't see them challenging. If they will be, then still they will fall short against United and even Arsenal. Hard to know, everything can happen, but I really don't see them winning the Premier League in the middle future.
 
Plechazunga said:
Both. I mean, Liverpool rebounding is somewhat less likely than United falling off, which is inevitable at some point.

But without meaning to party-poop the Meltdown thread, I think they're pretty likely to get back to winning ways eventually. They're too big a club not to. This isn't Notts Forest we're talking about, they have a huge global fan-base and are still considered one of the biggest clubs in the world.

Certainly the longer they go on being shite on-field and embarrassing themselves off-, the more their history and glamour lose their lustre. But they've got a while to go yet.
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I maintain that their attitude and handling of Suarez and their performances, transfers and general shittiness over the past 4 years has seriously downgraded their club size in all ways except history. How can they claim to be bigger than the 'newer' bigger clubs like Chelsea when they are hysterically desperate to keep the one world class player they have got so much so they delusionally defend biting and racist insults? They haven't attracted any star names since Suarez, and have started buying overpriced english dross for a few windows now.

They will continue to bleat about their history and being a big club but they are dwindling, make no mistake.
 
Suarez wasn't even a star name when they bought him. He was the player who handballed on the line in the World Cup, that's all.
 
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