Probably because they would have spent it passing the ball between Reina and Enrique.
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Probably because they would have spent it passing the ball between Reina and Enrique.
Balanced opinions on Suarez. YAWN lad.
And they claim they never get as much injury-time as us...
I can't wait to see what those saying he is going to be a legend say when he moves on 
They are 26 points behind us, we have a game in hand and there's 11 games after that to increase the lead. We're supposedly the worst United tean in 20 years, in a league which isn't very good, yet massively likely to win the league and have a decent chance at the CL and FA Cup.
They're out of all the cup competitions and are very unlikely to get 4th, even with the supposed "league's best player".
It's funny that by belittling our achievements and team, all they are doing is proving just how shit this current Liverpool team is - and imagine it without Suarez...
They're out of all the cup competitions and are very unlikely to get 4th, even with the supposed "league's best player".
It's funny that by belittling our achievements and team, all they are doing is proving just how shit this current Liverpool team is - and imagine it without Suarez...
I can't wait for Suarez to leave Liverpool. Their reaction will be priceless.
Doesn't take much to be a legend at Liverpool does it
It says a lot when the highlight of the past couple of seasons for Liverpool fans has been the performance of a cheating, racial abusing, striker.
Jesus, he was gump as feck for a good 70 minutes of that game. Not able to do anything with the ball at feet.
The FK's were nice but jesus christ. "Best player in the Prem"? Shows how far they really have fallen.
The racist will go to Bayern in the summer. RAWK will explode, it's going to be gooooooooood
And always twirling. Twirling, twirling towards freedom.
Armed with the sword of Damascus.
Did they find in on the Road to Damocles then?
We don't.... 3 chuffin minutes last night, goalie must have wasted at least 5....and yes I am bitter and prone to exaggerate mate.
We don't.... 3 chuffin minutes last night, goalie must have wasted at least 5....and yes I am bitter and prone to exaggerate mate.
I think you missed the joke...
u needed Fergie time ey Johnny...That one idiot who says Suarez is the best striker they've had since 86. Where the hell was he when they had Torres? You can be bitter towards him since he moved but still he was simply magnificent for them. I would have an in form Torres any day over an in form Suarez.
Yup.
Suarez is in form now, and he's still the reason they arent in the next round.
They should have won the first leg , indeed, by the end of the first half, a clinical striker and they would have won the whole tie already.
And amongst all the 'tried hard' and 'magical night of old' stuff, lets remember something, Zenith are not that good. The problem rawk has its so bereft of success they cling to anything, a win over swansea reserves, even a loss over two legs to a team third in the russian league who hadnt played competitively for two months.
The difference is Torres was fantastic for one season and a bit, Suarez will perform to a high level over a longer period of time.
And Suarez until recently has been pretty much playing teams on his own at times, Torres had the likes of Gerrard and others playing to a high standard with him.
Was Torres in his prime better, definitely, however his prime didn't last as long as Suarez's will, the latter has still to reach his peak.
I would have an in form Torres too - but when was the last time he was?
Yeah I don't think there's much between Suarez and Torres either way; Torres was more clinical whilst Suarez is more creative. Both are genuinely world class players whilst on form; Torres has turned to shit though with no sign whatsoever he'll come good again; I don't think it's laughable to think of Suarez as being the better player, and he's certainly one of the best players in the Premier League. Best Liverpool striker since 1986 though? I don't know about that. In my time both Robbie Fowler and Michael Owen stand out, though my memory of them at Liverpool is from childhood so it's difficult to compare really.
I agree with that , Owen and Fowler were better than Suarez, different types of player though.
Owen would never have scored a free kick like the one last night, but was quicker and more lethal as a finisher.
Fowler had a better all round game, could hold the ball and link up play better, and was a natural goalscorer.
Doesn't take much to be a legend at Liverpool does it
It really doesn't, it's sort of an insult to all the great Liverpool players that Suarez gets to be mentioned as a legend.
Good post. Fowler was called God there at one point, probably still is!
A season and a bit? You got to be joking. Every time we went up against Liverpool, I was scared because you had Torres and not anyone else.
1st season - 33 goals in 46 appearances.
2nd season - 17 goals in 38 appearances.
3rd season - 22 goals in 32 appearances.
I don't think thats a season and a bit. He was fantastic in the league. It was Europe where you could say he wasn't on par.
Even if you win loads of trophies at United it's rare you'll be considered a legend. Whereas it sounds like Liverpool's 2012 Carling Cup team is in the Hall Of Fame.
Exactly. Up until 2008ish Torres was actually a very good player. A great goal scorer too. Suarez might have more to do for the team but he is not clearly better by any means.
Small clubs have low standards. I'm sure when Swansea or Bradford win they'll have a few legends.
I agree. Torres between 07-09 was better than Suarez now IMO.
I know the Liverpool fans are giddy as hell over Suarez, and saying he's the best striker in so many years and all that, but if they really sit and think about it, would they go back to the days when Torres was truly in his pomp there? When they were playing CL football and challenging us for the title?
Plus they don't seem to sing that Suarez song with the same enthusiasm as they did the Torres Bounce.
Their entire team was better then, so of course they would.
Owen or Fowler would've had a hat-trick in the first leg and had the game won.
Now that they have Sturridge alongside Suarez, and with young Sterling breaking through, Liverpool fans say that they're finally on the right path and that they are on their way back.
If a team with Torres & Gerrard (in their prime), Alonso and Mascherano couldn't win the title, then this team today sure as hell won't. Liverpool may improve slightly and get back into the top 4 at some stage, maybe in the next few seasons, but they won't challenge for the title for a long time IMO.
Well that's obvious, but it has nothing to do with what we're talking about. It's certainly not Luis Suarez holding them back.
Best striker since 86? I forgot to add another one - Emile Heskey.
And also we are not saying we are on the way back.
There is a squad rebuilding process ongoing and clearly that will take some time.
We don't have the quality in depth and that needs to change.
What we are, or might be saying, is that we have some good players but not enough of them.
What? I will have a word and get the fans to bounce when we sing the Suarez song in future.
Dear me.
There is a squad rebuilding process ongoing and clearly that will take some time.
We don't have the quality in depth and that needs to change.
What we are, or might be saying, is that we have some good players but not enough of them.
What? I will have a word and get the fans to bounce when we sing the Suarez song in future.
Dear me.
Stop getting your knickers in a twist.
That's just not entirely true though, is it? Even Rodgers is going on about how you lost the battle but are winning the war - isn't that talk about coming back?
Imo, Rodgers should have pursued a career as a professor in literature; he's all words and very little substance. He could probably also fare quite well in politics as he says what the audience wants to hear, but if you aren't blinded by the specs you are wearing, he's quite easy to call out.
From the fans perspective, at least the majority I talk to, are very aware we are well off the pace and a long way behind. You cannot disguise that.
We have good players but not enough of them.
Brendan says some weird things, I think he is trying to please the owners and fans too much. He knows we cannot challenge at the moment and the squad isn't up to the mark.
At the end of the day the fans will want an end product for all the talk, irrespective of what he says, at the moment he can get away with it...a little but assuming he gets the backing from the owners in the next transfer window the pressure will build if results aren't positive.
Whether any real progress so far has been made is debatable, but the squad needed/needs some serious work and that is far from complete at this moment in time.
Personally it's far too soon to judge as far as the manager is concerned, but everyone I know is realistic and well aware there is a long way to go to catch up.
Since 1986? My memory of them from that era isn't great but Ian Rush?
Fair enough.
Do you think that Suarez will stay if Liverpool don't even qualify for the Europa League? If he is world class as some Liverpool argue (he might just be), don't you think he would want trophies?
Who else would you argue to be quality players? Gerrard has been good this season, but I don't think he will get better. Lucas seems a shadow of his former self - nor did I ever rate him that highly. Sterling is an exciting prospect, but a bit young to rely on. Reina has more howlers than match winning saves in his locker. Agger thinks he is better than he is. Johnson is good at attacking but only decent at defending and the same applies for Enrique. Henderson is average as is Allen - both are young though, but quality is perhaps overstating it? Sturridge could be quality. You definitely lack wingers though!
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