RAWK Goes Into Meltdown (2011/2012)

If a team performs poorly after a manager leaves, that's not necessarily a demonstration of how good the former manager was. It can be sometimes, but not all the time. A manager's legacy is important in determining his quality.

I don't recall you employing these criteria in your analysis of your beloved Liverpool post your darling Rafa.
 
I don't recall you employing these criteria in your analysis of your beloved Liverpool post your darling Rafa.

I reckon Liverpool's failings after he left were partially down to him, partially down the owners for not backing Hodgson with any kind of seriousness, and Hodgson himself. Multiple factors at play there.
 
Manchester united boss takes a dig at ex-liverpool manager

Manchester United Boss Takes A Dig At Ex-Liverpool Manager

Manchester United manager Alex Ferguson has continued his feud with ex-Liverpool boss Rafa Benitez and defended Jose Mourinho's confrontational managerial style.

Ferguson saw a picture of former Liverpool boss Benitez during an interview in an Italian newspaper office and said: "He is jobless and he is not my friend."

But the United supremo says he is a close friend of Mourinho.

"Jose is a good friend of mine," said Ferguson. "He doesn’t hide his emotions. I like that in human beings. The good thing about Jose is he can laugh at himself.

"After a game we have a glass of wine, we talk about a million things. He is a good man but is young, maybe in four or five years time he will be more calm."

And Ferguson insists he isn't ready to retire yet, adding: "Over the years I've had the question, who could replace me? You'd need someone very experienced in the long term. But I've no idea... I'm not retiring."


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Sounds like he is saying Maurinho will be ready to take over in 5 years ;)
 
The only thing left to make this a classic Al bender is for him to declare how completely impartial and unbiased he always is - ignoring the fact that if you have to make that claim yourself, it's probably not true.

You still haven't explained how two articles stating £20.3M and £12M are backing up your claims of £19M and £16M, Al. Fancy giving it a go just to give us a giggle before bedtime?
 
I reckon Liverpool's failings after he left were partially down to him, partially down the owners for not backing Hodgson with any kind of seriousness, and Hodgson himself. Multiple factors at play there.

Now, don't get upset, we know how much you LFC fans hate the Antichrist aka Woy....just take some deep breaths, count to ten and move along
 
The only thing left to make this a classic Al bender is for him to declare how completely impartial and unbiased he always is - ignoring the fact that if you have to make that claim yourself, it's probably not true.

You still haven't explained how two articles stating £20.3M and £12M are backing up your claims of £19M and £16M, Al. Fancy giving it a go just to give us a giggle before bedtime?

Well I just thought it unfair to include add-ons with one, and not the other. And just coming in with abuse is a bit pathetic to be honest, it just makes you look like a bit of a twat who takes the internet very seriously.
 
Now, don't get upset, we know how much you LFC fans hate the Antichrist aka Woy....just take some deep breaths, count to ten and move along

God, now I know how Boss felt. You make a pretty normal post, saying multiple factors were relevant, and you put some of it in bold and try and make some clever comment on the back of it. I'd grow up.
 
The only thing left to make this a classic Al bender is for him to declare how completely impartial and unbiased he always is - ignoring the fact that if you have to make that claim yourself, it's probably not true.

Why would Alasturd be biased? He is an Arsenal/Liverpool supporter posting on a United board. The very model of objectivity.


:lol:
 
Why would Alasturd be biased? He is an Arsenal/Liverpool supporter posting on a United board. The very model of objectivity.


:lol:

It is hilarious when people can't argue with points so they just go 'oh look, he doesn't agree with me, so he must be a liverpool fan. I'm on a United board so everyone can post smilies together and we'll all be right'. It's typical bullied at school syndrome - you try and form your own gang when you get a little bit older and you just look retarded.
 
Can we ban alastair from this thread, please?

Agreed. He has fecked the entire thing up now on a number of occasions. It is for laughing at RAWK. If Al wants to defend his beloved Liverpool/Benitez, I am sure there are any number of threads where he can indulge himself.
 
Al, stop derailing the thread. ;)

Oh me lads you should see Andy Carroll,
He goes into ale houses and empties out the barrel,
There were lots of lads and lasses with smiles upon there faces,
Carrying him up the Annie Road..to play with Kenny's aces

Looking for a fight
Drank too much Miller Lite
He's drained the barrel
(Who? Andy Carroll)

He'll have a pint with the boys
Cos it's what he enjoys
That's Andy Carroll
(Aye Andy Carroll!)

Works hard week days
On a Saturday plays
And puts the ball into the back of the goal

When he hears the Kop cheer
Then its time for more beer
For Andy Carroll

What shall we do with a drunken striker
What shall we do with a drunken striker
What shall we do with a drunken striker
LIBPOOL'S ANDY CARROLL

Wah, ho, up he rises
Way, ho, up he rises
Way, ho, up he rises
LIBPOOL'S ANDY CARROLL

Has bounce potential as well...


Way to support the drunk sack.
 
in all seriousness, if thats true, I have one question

Why?

Don't think he's a bad manager is the crux of it.

a) Won a CL - it's an astonishing achievement with that squad. Arguably the worst squad of players to have ever won the CL.

b) Pushed Liverpool on another level. Made them finish top 4 every year til the disastrous season of 09/10.

c) Brought the best out of Gerrard - signed Torres and Mascherano. That Liverpool side of 09, whilst not being deep enough, was a really good team which played some good, tactical football at times. Beat Real Madrid 4-0. Won in the Nou Camp and Bernebeu. He had some great moments.
 
You can move all my posts to another thread btw if you want this free of actual discussion. I personally think I help the caf to stop looking obsessed by having a thread dedicated to another forum.
 
You can move all my posts to another thread btw if you want this free of actual discussion. I personally think I help the caf to stop looking obsessed by having a thread dedicated to another forum.

:lol:

I have an idea that could make YOU look less obsessed. Can you guess what it is?
 
Ferguson saw a picture of former Liverpool boss Benitez during an interview in an Italian newspaper office and said: "He is jobless and he is not my friend."

Yeah, I bet that's exactly how it happened. :rolleyes:
I mean, who the hell would walk into an office, point at a picture on the wall, and say the words "He is jobless and he is not my friend"?

Much more likely that SAF was asked for his opinion on Rafa, given that RB was a coach in Italy not so long ago.
 
Yeah, I bet that's exactly how it happened. :rolleyes:
I mean, who the hell would walk into an office, point at a picture on the wall, and say the words "He is jobless and he is not my friend"?

Much more likely that SAF was asked for his opinion on Rafa, given that RB was a coach in Italy not so long ago.

It's like Catch Phrase. "Just say what you see."
 
It was the outburst at Sir Alex that probably got the media to treat him as a joke thereafter. Even if some journalist dislikes Man United or Fergie, to show him such disrespect after all he's done and you're just a foreigner whose been in the country for what, 3 or 4 years, of course they're going to brush him off as incompetent .
 
Seriously this whole Alastair/Liverpool thing is not funny any more, and never was for that matter.

This website is so biased against Liverpool that it cannot fathom and comprehend any individual that defends any part of it from the constant wave of jeering that it gets.
 
Seriously this whole Alastair/Liverpool thing is not funny any more, and never was for that matter.

This website is so biased against Liverpool that it cannot fathom and comprehend any individual that defends any part of it from the constant wave of jeering that it gets.

You got that right. Perhaps you have an explanation as to why even our resident Liverpool fans don't go to the extremes to defend the club/Benitez that Alasturd, a supposed Arsenal fan, does?
 
I've just been "followed" by this fellow Twitter

He hasn't done anything yet, so don't get all excited, I was just wondering if one of you lot was behind it?

Edit: Oh, didn't know it would do that to the link. It's basically a fake Benitez account.
 
This website is so biased against Liverpool that it cannot fathom and comprehend any individual that defends any part of it from the constant wave of jeering that it gets.


While there's some truth in that, the bias is as nothing compared to RAWK's. And if that's a generalisation, then here's my individual POV on one aspect of the Caf's supposed bias: I don't doubt that Rafa Benitez is a good man, and certainly friendly enough outside of football management. Further, I've no doubt about his affinity with LFC and Liverpudlian people. Also, I admire his support of the Hillsborough victims' families and general cause. Despite all this, I feel he often played fans for fools by tacking-on his own 'cause' to that of the supporters', and became more and more wrapped up in his own personal drama as time went by. This is unforgivable, not matter what duress he was under. There are sound reasons why he's not employed by a major club, there are sound reasons why he's not too popular with other managers; and these reasons have little to do with xenophobia or press bias, let alone anti-Liverpool sentiment.
 
While there's some truth in that, the bias is as nothing compared to RAWK's. And if that's a generalisation, then here's my individual POV on one aspect of the Caf's supposed bias: I don't doubt that Rafa Benitez is a good man, and certainly friendly enough outside of football management. Further, I've no doubt about his affinity with LFC and Liverpudlian people. Also, I admire his support of the Hillsborough victims' families and general cause. Despite all this, I feel he often played fans for fools by tacking-on his own 'cause' to that of the supporters', and became more and more wrapped up in his own personal drama as time went by. This is unforgivable, not matter what duress he was under. There are sound reasons why he's not employed by a major club, there are sound reasons why he's not too popular with other managers; and these reasons have little to do with xenophobia or press bias, let alone anti-Liverpool sentiment.

I agree with pretty much all of that. Especially with regard to RAWK - it is just a magnet for morons - I don't think there is a bitterness with regard to Liverpool most of the time, more the way it is spun.

Not that it isn't also hilarious on occasion though.
 
Getting back to this Benitez website. What is he doing?

It's embarrassing on every level.

I know he's at a bit of a loose end but setting up a website? What? Shall we expect to see him on Strictly Come Dancing or I'm a Celeb next?

The thought of Fergie or Wenger doing something like this makes me cringe with embarrassment. Lose your job at an English club after fecking them up, feck up a big foreign club, don't get any more job offers, set up a website.

Obviously the goal will be to squeeze some dosh out of his deluded band of followers (expect a few hugely manipulative articles to draw them in and make them part with their hard earned cash) but how much money does he really need?

He must be rolling in it with two massive pay-offs 2 years straight?

In all fairness, this is to raise money for a charity.

Rafa Bentez Official Website
 
Yeah, I bet that's exactly how it happened. :rolleyes:
I mean, who the hell would walk into an office, point at a picture on the wall, and say the words "He is jobless and he is not my friend"?

Much more likely that SAF was asked for his opinion on Rafa, given that RB was a coach in Italy not so long ago.

apparently he saw the picture in a newspaper mate. but yeah. he must have been asked about him.
 
I just find it hard to believe. I mean, I don't particularly like David Cameron, but I can't imagine walking into a room, peering at a newspaper photo and saying something like: "He should resign...oh, and I didn't send him a Christmas card last year - so there!" :D
 
Alastair is a visionary. 35,000 people are wrong but he and his thoughts are the spoken word.

Comical Ali is apt, mad and a bit of a joke.
 
God, now I know how Boss felt.

Dude, I think you might be cracking up.


You make a pretty normal post, saying multiple factors were relevant, and you put some of it in bold and try and make some clever comment on the back of it.

I made a post saying multiple factors were relevant? :confused: I really don't remember doing that.....and furthermore why would I then bold my own post and make a clever comment about it?

I'd grow up.

You're recommending that you grow up? To yourself? Why tell us that?