Yeah, he's deadly just before last orders.
RAWK Goes Into Meltdown (2011/2012)
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Yeah, he's deadly just before last orders.
is there a single website he HASNT been banned from?
Is there a Delfouneso fan forum ?
They think that 70 and 80 supporters will support this shit on a stick?
I bet if Paisley / Shank is managing that collection of dross he'll either fire the whole lot of them or resign.
I bet if Paisley / Shank is managing that collection of dross he'll either fire the whole lot of them or resign.
Things I've learned at Rawk
1) Players playing bad : Letting Kenny Down
2) Players not turning up : Letting Kenny Down
3) Teams playing bad : 1/2 new team need time to gel
4) Caroll : Young, potential, and best of all he's free. Bought with Torres' fee
5) Suarez : He's up there with Messi / Zidane (i'm sure i read that somewhere)
6) Batch of dross signing : Comolli's fault, KK Never knew anything till they showed up at anfield
7) 1 1/2 season and still not knowing what their formation is : Progress, KK's tinkering and tampering to find the ultimate Formation : 4-4-4
8) I guess now it's OK to call a black LFC fans Negro / Negrito, because of Suarez
9) GESTAPO / SS : exists in the modern world, people can suddenly gone missing
10) It's always about net spend!
11) Progress is actually moving backwards
1) Players playing bad : Letting Kenny Down
2) Players not turning up : Letting Kenny Down
3) Teams playing bad : 1/2 new team need time to gel
4) Caroll : Young, potential, and best of all he's free. Bought with Torres' fee
5) Suarez : He's up there with Messi / Zidane (i'm sure i read that somewhere)
6) Batch of dross signing : Comolli's fault, KK Never knew anything till they showed up at anfield
7) 1 1/2 season and still not knowing what their formation is : Progress, KK's tinkering and tampering to find the ultimate Formation : 4-4-4
8) I guess now it's OK to call a black LFC fans Negro / Negrito, because of Suarez
9) GESTAPO / SS : exists in the modern world, people can suddenly gone missing
10) It's always about net spend!
11) Progress is actually moving backwards
I think he was booked for the trip. It has to be Perch who committed the original offence, or it would have been a penalty for Newcastle. Reina's head-but was seen as a reaction and the second offence.
I took it as him being booked for the trip, or at most just in that way that refs decide it's best to book both parties when people are squaring up to each other.
If he was booked for the dive, then that'd be a pretty fair decision (Reina off for the intenet & the action and him booked for making the most of it) but I'm not aware of any instant ever where a ref has booked someone for foul play and someone for diving at the same time.
If he was booked for the dive, then that'd be a pretty fair decision (Reina off for the intenet & the action and him booked for making the most of it) but I'm not aware of any instant ever where a ref has booked someone for foul play and someone for diving at the same time.
I would have been quite happy to see Perch booked for the trip, and booked for the retarded collapse. Get him off the pitch, too.
I know it's Liverpool (and therefore funny), but that was so gay.
I know it's Liverpool (and therefore funny), but that was so gay.
He should've really been off a few minutes later himself anyway for pulling back Suarez, which he then followed up with the obligatory "checking his face for blood" routine. Which is also gay, and which all Chelsea players automatically do after every collision.
But since it was against Suarez, who gives a feck. Or to paraphrase them whenever Suarez does something despicably cheaty "it's just part of the modern game, everyone does it, why are you singling out him?"
But since it was against Suarez, who gives a feck. Or to paraphrase them whenever Suarez does something despicably cheaty "it's just part of the modern game, everyone does it, why are you singling out him?"
After Fergie knocked Liverpool off their perch, their players have a problem with all Perches, including James.
As much as I hate to see players throwing themselves to the ground in mock agony, Reina gave the ref a decision to make by attempting a soft headbutt in the first place. He only has himself to blame for losing his temper.
As much as I hate to see players throwing themselves to the ground in mock agony, Reina gave the ref a decision to make by attempting a soft headbutt in the first place. He only has himself to blame for losing his temper.
Of course it's a red!
He moved his arm toward the ball. It was handball, denial of a goal. Red card every single day of the week.
100% red. They got away with it.
You get a red for denying a goal scoring opportunity with a foul, right? There isn't a more obvious case of denying a goal scoring opportunity than illegally saving the ball on the line.
I do think it appeared that Perch went down far too easily but nobody really knows how much Reina giving the Spanish nod to Perch had hurt the lad.
And whether Perch went down or not Coco the Clown was still walking.
There is absolutely no argument. None at all.
I think that's the key, you can't red card a player for violent conduct then yellow card the victim for simulation. It just makes no sense at all.
Aye, but feck 'em. It's only Liverpool.
to me, it is like the difference between a slap and a punch. contact is still made, rules say he should be sent off. Perch went down like a twat though.
To say 'but there's no contact made' is just a gross misunderstanding of rules. If a player tries to punch another and the other ducks it then there's no contact made but it's a sending off because of intent. Intent being important here.
Can't blame Perch. He's only doing what he's seen countless other professionals before him do. He's the kid in the playground who was taught about the game by watching the likes of Rivaldo.
The players who wouldn't have reacted similarly or identically are in the minority.
Well, there's that and the fact that he was in an argument with Reina. He played Reina like a master and won. Isn't that the kind of mindgame the media have been wanking over this past week?
The players who wouldn't have reacted similarly or identically are in the minority.
Well, there's that and the fact that he was in an argument with Reina. He played Reina like a master and won. Isn't that the kind of mindgame the media have been wanking over this past week?
Sure you can. He went down like he'd been shot in the face when he was barely touched. The red card was nailed on, but he was still guilty of simulation.
Personally I think both intent and contact are red herrings.
If you try to make an honest tackle but trip the player, there's no intent but it's still a foul. In fact, if you trip up and fall in his path it's still a foul, even though you didn't even intend to make a tackle at all.
If you lunge in for an honest tackle and miss, but he has to hurdle you to get out the way and he loses the ball, there's neither intent nor contact but it's still a foul.
The key issue is stopping/disrupting the oppo player without getting the ball. The laws don't quite reflect that but they should, and I think refs tend to see things that way.
I hate Nick and hope someone drops a skip on his head, but I agree with this.
Perch is a shithead.
That's horrible logic. And what of the hundreds of players who grew up with the same thing, and have seen just as many professionals do it, why don't they go around doing the same thing. Why is this a general rarity in the game, and not a constant thing since the majority does it, or would do it, and grew up watching it.
What about handballs? Should we discard players who control the ball with their hands because we grew up watching Maradonna perform the hand of god?
Evra still cracks me up on the first page of this thread
Took a break. I couldn't resist returning after Liverpoo managed to get duffed again, though.
How do you know he simulated anything? He could have a really low pain threshold.
Tackling and 'violent conduct' are two different things, IMO. Of course, tackling itself can be construed violent conduct and that's been seen as a 'two footed lunge'. But when your actions are outside of the 'normal' football movements like 'tackling' (whilst challenging for a ball) well then you're left with very little option but to send a player off.
I'm not talking about violent conduct though. It doesn't even need to be a deliberate tackle. Imagine a goalie, rushing out to a striker who's through one-on-one. As he approaches he trips over his own feet at full pace and goes flying head-first at the striker. The striker is forced to leap out the way to avoid him, and the chance is lost.
No intent, no contact, certainly no dangerous play or violent contact, but a clear penalty.
Obviously most foul challenges have either contact or intent but they're not actually necessary, is what I'm saying. It's about the effect it has on the play, not a specific aspect of the challenge.
Anyway, RAWK... hehehe, it's in meltdown.
Perch only did what many, many other players would do in the same situation in fairness to him.
If he had not gone down Reina may have stayed on, which would not have been fair at all.
He did the right thing
If he had not gone down Reina may have stayed on, which would not have been fair at all.
He did the right thing
Being a cheating shitbag is "doing the right thing" now?
If he hadnt, Reina would have stayed on the pitch. Why should Perch allow an opposition player get away with that?
No, he didnt, he should have walked too. I know thats not possible by current rules, but he should have had walked.
I think Perch was hurt (to what degree we don't know) and that's why he went down...he already knew Reina was getting a red card so why else would he go down?
Because it's the officials' job to decide what's happened and punish appropriately, not the players' to put on a bit of theatre to make sure their decision is what he thinks is right.
It's the same reason it's not considered 'right' to tell the police that someone's shot you when in fact they've slapped you.
I've heard a lot of people over the years make more or less cynical arguments for play-acting and simulation, saying that in the current game a naive approach would leave you too much at the mercy of cynical opponents.
I've never heard anyone suggest that it's actually morally right to do it. Well done.
Ah, got you.
I dont expect you to have read any of my previous posts. But I dont have any major issues with diving in football. I never have done.
No need to compare it to a real life situation. Because, well its not. It is football.
I believe Perch going down helped make the referee’s mind up on the red card. He could have run the risk of Reina getting away with it.
I see absolutely nothing wrong with that from a side trying to win a football match.
Carroll tried to trick the ref into penalty, Perch tricked Reina and in result, the whole LFC.
Karma is bitch and Carroll is a poor actor.
Karma is bitch and Carroll is a poor actor.