RAWK Goes Into Meltdown (2011/2012)
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Tell me he didn't say that, or anything like that.
Verbatim.
Another classic meltdown moment!
Still no where near this gem (from one of our own and all)
Yeah, but that's all obvious, does he have a larger point to make?
https://www.redcafe.net/f6/400m-transfer-kitty-within-5-years-322093/
Not really, no. Great thread though.
Not really, no. Great thread though.
Holy shit I saw it was 2 - 1 to them and forgot all about it 
Roy Hodgson must be having a sly grin to himself when he sees how bad Liverpool are now. If he'd got a set of results like the last ten he would probably have been shot.
Holy shit I saw it was 2 - 1 to them and forgot all about it
the scousers...always a silver lining eh?
From the King of the Kop:
Yogi Bera is upset that a drunk clown is quoting him 
If Liverpool stay in the position that they are will Kenny be on his way? Personally I think he'll have another season (or at least half of one) to redeem himself. I can't decide whether that would be a good thing in that managers should be given more time or a bad thing in that it's blind faith plus no one else got that chance.
They'll hide behind the "Legend" status. It's the same as the constant burning seething hatred for Hodgson.
If he had have produced this there would literally be hit ordered on him.
I'm really not sure to make of all of this. They're in a twilight zone as far as club development goes. There's some really strong area's for development and growth getting ignored and there are some players being carried.
The Hodgson bashers all claim that he's rubbish and yeah he wasn't great and Kenny has done marginally better.... but they can say nothing when you say £100m quid. The snap comes and they start to get all defensive.
just watching the match now...second half now... bloody ell QPR outplaying therm...
but tbf...that was a super goal by the Liverpool defender.
but tbf...that was a super goal by the Liverpool defender.
Their agony is gorgeous.
Where are you watching it? Don't say Sky Plus
MOST CONSECUTIVE YEARS IN THE TOP 8? Get in!
But I dont get it?
Surely even us and few other top teams are consecutively in the top 8?
I'd imagine they're shitting their collective pants right now because there are six points between them and 14th spot, and they've yet to go to Newcastle, Swansea and Norwich away or play Chelsea at home.
I guess not.
Probably they have been in Top8 since 80s, when teams like United, Arsenal did find themselves finishing in other half of table in late 80s to early 90s.
But that has no relevance at all.
They'll make it their new goal for the season. Just like Reina's golden gloves. The great battle with Swansea for 8th place.
Don't you know, next year is their year? 7th place is a dead cert.
thats more like it, DTnot even a mother could love that face.
To be fair this guy talks sense:
I don't want Kenny to go. I wanted Kenny in to replace Hodgson and I still think he deserves more time. But I don't subscribe to the theory that he's infallible, he's made some crucial mistakes tactically and in the transfer market.
The thing for me is that before this season began what people wanted most of all was an improvement in the league. If we finish behind Swansea, behind Newcastle, a worse finish than a team managed by Hodgson for half a season, you cannot possibly tell me with a straight face that it's been an improvement. We're playing better football than we are under Hodgson but Kenny has not addressed the endemic, systemic problems in this team that has been around since Rafa left. We are still crying out for a quality finisher (either start Carroll every game or sell him), we are still crying out for width, and we haven't had the mentality of champions since 2005 and arguably 08/09.
I am very happy that we won the League Cup, and I consider getting to the Semis of the FA Cup an achievement in itself, having not been here since 2006. But people are talking about the FA Cup as if it's in the bag. And even if we do go on to win it, which will be fantastic, I'm not going to revise my pre-season expectations and be happy about finishing in the middle of the table.
Simply put, I am disgusted with the antics of people like Andy and others who talk of giving up on the League because we've won a cup and we're in Europe. fecking hell if it was one of our players who said that he'd be slaughtered. It's just ridiculous revisionism of our pre-season goals because we've happened to go on a good run in the domestic cup. If we finish mid-table some of the people here might be happy, I sure as hell won't.
I don't want Kenny to go. I wanted Kenny in to replace Hodgson and I still think he deserves more time. But I don't subscribe to the theory that he's infallible, he's made some crucial mistakes tactically and in the transfer market.
The thing for me is that before this season began what people wanted most of all was an improvement in the league. If we finish behind Swansea, behind Newcastle, a worse finish than a team managed by Hodgson for half a season, you cannot possibly tell me with a straight face that it's been an improvement. We're playing better football than we are under Hodgson but Kenny has not addressed the endemic, systemic problems in this team that has been around since Rafa left. We are still crying out for a quality finisher (either start Carroll every game or sell him), we are still crying out for width, and we haven't had the mentality of champions since 2005 and arguably 08/09.
I am very happy that we won the League Cup, and I consider getting to the Semis of the FA Cup an achievement in itself, having not been here since 2006. But people are talking about the FA Cup as if it's in the bag. And even if we do go on to win it, which will be fantastic, I'm not going to revise my pre-season expectations and be happy about finishing in the middle of the table.
Simply put, I am disgusted with the antics of people like Andy and others who talk of giving up on the League because we've won a cup and we're in Europe. fecking hell if it was one of our players who said that he'd be slaughtered. It's just ridiculous revisionism of our pre-season goals because we've happened to go on a good run in the domestic cup. If we finish mid-table some of the people here might be happy, I sure as hell won't.
Didn't know the result as I turned the tv off last night but I knew Liverpool were 2-0 up. I then got a text off my mate saying "what did you think of tonights footy? Quite Pleased Really".... I wondered what the feck he was on about until this morning !
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Re: Do We still have an outside chance to make it into Top 4?
« Reply #759 on: Today at 08:19:25 AM »
Not a chance. There is no point in this thread anymore. It might as well be titled "Do we have an outside chance of winning the league"!
Well, no. That's just silly. There'd be no point now having a thread called "Do we have an outside chance of winning the league?"
Just to repeat: It's March. United have 70 points. Liverpool can, at maximum, reach 69 points.
Re: Do We still have an outside chance to make it into Top 4?
« Reply #759 on: Today at 08:19:25 AM »
Not a chance. There is no point in this thread anymore. It might as well be titled "Do we have an outside chance of winning the league"!
Well, no. That's just silly. There'd be no point now having a thread called "Do we have an outside chance of winning the league?"
Just to repeat: It's March. United have 70 points. Liverpool can, at maximum, reach 69 points.
Woke up early the next morning, and go to read a RAWK post match thread. Excellent
This quote stood out the most
Buzzing about the clubs future? I genuinely can't see how you can be excited about the clubs future after the last few weeks. They aren't dominating teams anymore and not winning, they're scraping around and genuinely playing poor football.
Coates scored a good goal last night, doesn't mask the fact he's looked poor in defence a lot of the time. Players like Carroll and Downing are key starters in their squad. Their best player and talisman Gerrard is getting to the end of his career, and realistically can't play 38 games a season now. There youth prospects like Kelly whilst initially looking promising (and just last week I genuinely saw an argument on RAWK saying he's had a better season than Kyle Walker, and if you didn't agree you were brainwashed by sky) have now faltered and don't look up to scratch. Even though they're missing Lucas, they don't have any cover for him, and they've been lucky this year with injuries really, with Suarez, Reina, Agger, Skrtel and Enrique not having to miss many matches.
They're in massive trouble! I don't know how they can stay positive anymore, a third year without Champions League football is not only disasterous in terms of getting in players and keeping the good ones they currently have, but it means if they ever do somehow get back into the competition they'll have a really hard group stage.
At this point I think the decline is almost irreversible, anyone disagree?
This quote stood out the most
Buzzing about the clubs future? I genuinely can't see how you can be excited about the clubs future after the last few weeks. They aren't dominating teams anymore and not winning, they're scraping around and genuinely playing poor football.
Coates scored a good goal last night, doesn't mask the fact he's looked poor in defence a lot of the time. Players like Carroll and Downing are key starters in their squad. Their best player and talisman Gerrard is getting to the end of his career, and realistically can't play 38 games a season now. There youth prospects like Kelly whilst initially looking promising (and just last week I genuinely saw an argument on RAWK saying he's had a better season than Kyle Walker, and if you didn't agree you were brainwashed by sky) have now faltered and don't look up to scratch. Even though they're missing Lucas, they don't have any cover for him, and they've been lucky this year with injuries really, with Suarez, Reina, Agger, Skrtel and Enrique not having to miss many matches.
They're in massive trouble! I don't know how they can stay positive anymore, a third year without Champions League football is not only disasterous in terms of getting in players and keeping the good ones they currently have, but it means if they ever do somehow get back into the competition they'll have a really hard group stage.
At this point I think the decline is almost irreversible, anyone disagree?
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KKK now seem either sarcastic or cranky. People must dread interviewing him. He always tries to make them look foolish.
Yes, he come across as a cnut of the highest order. Sarcastic, irritable and delusional if they loose... and just plain delusional if they win.
Also, he can never look his interviewer in the eye, he's always shifting around uneasily and looking down at his feet... He's a mirror of how to act on the weekly dole queue in Liverpool.
I disagree that it is irreversible. Of course they can start challenging for top 4 again.
Up until xmas there were still in with an outside chance of top 4. They need a lot changes though.
If they win the FA Cup Liverpool fans will look at this season quite fondly IMO
Go back to 1990 when we won the FA Cup. That season we finished 13th in the league. But many see it as the start of what we have now. Now I am not for one minute saying Liverpool will become an unstoppable dominant force in English football. That clearly will not happen. There is too much money in the game for other sides for that to be even possible.
But yes it can be a start of brighter things for them. I would consider a club in their current situation to win 2 cups as been a pretty good year.
I remember the abuse my 2 Liverpool supporting brothers gave me before 1993 when United were 26 years without a league title. Granted we may be a little older (and more mature!) nowadays, but it's 4 years to go and counting. They may have forgotten but I certainly haven't!
Agree & Disagree.
Ofcourse they can reverse it but it seems very very difficult.
They do not have CL which is a big factor for big talents to join any club. And they will be entering third season without it. If Tottenham graps the CL spot, then Tottenham will again remain a force, Chelsea will spend big; So any player who wants to join them, will look at the amount of clubs ahead of them & in better position, would be worried of how long he will have to wait/work to reach CL spot.
They do not have any inspiring youngsters within their first team and i am not aware of any in their academy as well. Arsenal despite the crisis have a base where they can field the likes of Wilshere, Frimpong, Coquelin, Gibbs, Miyaichi; which helps not only to avoid spending but also (unfortunately for fans) make money for the club. Liverpool's Transfer out money has only ever been high when they sold Torres and they fecked it up on Carroll.
As you said, their team possess of key players in their 30s in Gerrard, Bellamy, Carragher(though a backup); so they will have to again invest to replace them in another 2 years.
If in next 4 years, they intend to shift to a new stadium, then they are in enter a cycle that Arsenal faces.
However, While they certainly have less resources after spending so much on slightly above average talents but they do have a base on which further expenditure can help them reach top4, but they are way way behind if it comes to talking about League title.
A defence of Kelly/Johnson Skrtel Agger Enrique is good enough.
Lucas is one of their key players. Henderson is still young and can impress like Lucas have.
Suarez is brilliant.
Downing, Kuyt can be backups for some better wingers.
And why wouldn't a fan be optimistic about his club's next season exploit, when they have just won a cup & are in semis of another.
Went to bed just after the chelsea match, little bit disappointed. Liverpool were leading 2-1, so was even more disappointed. Woke up, to find they lost and madrid drew. Good day
The rest of your post became null and void when you described Suarez as brilliant. A striker with 14 goals in over a year in England is not even close to brilliant. Unless nutmegging players before running to the touchline to occasionally win a corner qualifies you as a brilliant player these days.
You spend a strange amount of time defending Liverpool.
Is Fergie still running scared that Dalglish is back?
Yes. So much so that he had to build a 28 point lead over them so he could get some sleep finally.