Rasmus Højlund | Signed for United

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I appreciate the discussion. I like looking at stats because they do tell a story. A player that Scores 10 goals from 10xg has similar finishing to a player that scores 20 goals from 20xg. We can know that the 20g player may get more opportunities but both players finish at roughly the same level. I agree with your point on the system holds him back, but even if he gets more opportunities he would score more goals since he is a good finisher as we would expect.

My preference around Hojlund revolves around a few stats (taken from FB ref). He is 99 percentile in Progressive Passes received, which shows he can hold up the ball well. 93 percentile in touches in the Attacking penalty area. But the other 2 that excites me is that he is 75 percentile in Progressive Carries and 83 percentile in successful take-on. With the dynamic attacking shape, he has the ability to move to channels receive the ball turn, and take a man on, allowing Rashford to cut underneath or create space for late runs from Mount and Fernandes. Same with Antony on the other side. I just think his dynamic presence is a better fit than Vlahovic who (based on the stats) is more of a true center-of-the-box target forward than an excellent finisher.

Sounds good, thanks for the write-up! Yeah stats definitely don't lie, it's just that in todays age there is so much emphasis on it that sometimes we do forget other factors in play. You make me excited, it might be a bit of a stretch but sounds like Haaland type profile, right? Fbref sounds interesting, I'll look into it. Have you looked how Hojlund and Muani stack up against eachother as well? Feel like they're also wildly different players going off just eye test, but I may be wrong.
 
I'm not trying to debate who is better necessarily, but I don't like people thinking Vlahovic is some scrub because of him playing in a fecked up squad led by a dreadful manager. Me personally I don't put too much faith in these stats because I don't think they reflect what he can be. He's on an island in a 3511 with two washed wingbacks besides him. My point is he would be way better off playing for a team like us so his npxG for Juventus doesn't really matter to me all that much. Think he needs a move away from Allegri's shitshow so he can score goals for fun again like he did for Fiorentina and Serbia.

We do have a bigger sample size on what type of player he is but I think he could improve in many areas under ETH and be a good fit due to his link up play being pretty good at Juve when he gets the opportunity to show it and he was a genuine threat from even outside the box at Fiorentina. Hojlund may be a way better fit for all I know but I haven't watched enough of him and I'm not going to pretend I did. Can you tell me what he does better?

Hojlund has a lot more pace. If you include his international goals his ratio is far better.
 
Wouldn’t pay more than £55 million for him. Take it or leave it. If Atalanta say no. Move on . Vlahovic , Kolo Muani or even Mitrovoic not disastrous options but obviously underwhelming considering who are rivals have
 
Wouldn’t pay more than £55 million for him. Take it or leave it. If Atalanta say no. Move on . Vlahovic , Kolo Muani or even Mitrovoic not disastrous options but obviously underwhelming considering who are rivals have

mate, mitrovic is an awful awful shout. Toney would be a better shout in Jan than him
 
Taking a thread off topic
Wouldn’t be at all surprised if it’s who can’t be mentioned we end up with
 
Think £50m is absolute max we should pay

Hes a forward so they always go for more imo, I think 60m with 20m in add ons like champions league finals, winning the league , golden boot etc. If we actually accomplished those things he would have contributed to it.
 
Hes a forward so they always go for more imo, I think 60m with 20m in add ons like champions league finals, winning the league , golden boot etc. If we actually accomplished those things he would have contributed to it.

Presume you mean £40m plus £20m addons
 
Looks like this is dead in the water as Atalanta want way too much money for the kid and they are perfectly right to ask for whatever price they want for him.
I would say we will be best served going for the experienced bloke at Porto and getting our young strikers that we have already on the books fired up to be fit and raring to score goals.
 
The striker search is developing along the same lines as the takeover - a disappointing list of options, none of whom are ideal.

Really can't see who we can get that would tick many boxes. The elite ones are out of our price range. Even the next tier down might be as well. So we seem to be looking at either a young, inexperienced striker (Hojlund, Ramos) - but even those sound like we're bring priced out of them! Or there's the similar route we keep going down - a short term, older striker (Taremi?) to tide us over until we can finally land that elusive top target in their prime.

Of all the (potentially affordable) ones linked, Hojlund was probably my preference. Hopefully, once we get the Onana deal confirmed, we'll hear more positive updates of our search for a striker. Whether that be Hojlund or someone else.
 
The striker search is developing along the same lines as the takeover - a disappointing list of options, none of whom are ideal.

Really can't see who we can get that would tick many boxes. The elite ones are out of our price range. Even the next tier down might be as well. So we seem to be looking at either a young, inexperienced striker (Hojlund, Ramos) - but even those sound like we're bring priced out of them! Or there's the similar route we keep going down - a short term, older striker (Taremi?) to tide us over until we can finally land that elusive top target in their prime.

Of all the (potentially affordable) ones linked, Hojlund was probably my preference. Hopefully, once we get the Onana deal confirmed, we'll hear more positive updates of our search for a striker. Whether that be Hojlund or someone else.

Yeah definitely feels like it's turning into a takeover scenario,since City took Haaland off the striker market it's not been great
 
The absolute state of Haaland in yesterday's EA FC reveal.

Cornrows and pyjamas.
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Looks like his little niece had her way with him.
 
Sounds good, thanks for the write-up! Yeah stats definitely don't lie, it's just that in todays age there is so much emphasis on it that sometimes we do forget other factors in play. You make me excited, it might be a bit of a stretch but sounds like Haaland type profile, right? Fbref sounds interesting, I'll look into it. Have you looked how Hojlund and Muani stack up against eachother as well? Feel like they're also wildly different players going off just eye test, but I may be wrong.

FBref is a really good website to compare players, one of my favorite. I'd take your time going through the tables, so you understand the information because it can be a little too many numbers. Here are the links for Rasmus Hojlund and Randal Kolo Muani so you can view them.

https://fbref.com/en/players/491a433d/Rasmus-Hojlund

https://fbref.com/en/players/c0b3669f/Randal-Kolo-Muani
 
Atlanta know they have a good young striker that they can hold on to for the best offer they can get, but I hope the club gets it done, we really need a striker and even though Hojlund is raw he has shown potential to be a great striker and it's super difficult to find a quality striker these days
 
Atlanta know they have a good young striker that they can hold on to for the best offer they can get, but I hope the club gets it done, we really need a striker and even though Hojlund is raw he has shown potential to be a great striker and it's super difficult to find a quality striker these days

I disagree.. he’s just a striker with ‘good’ potential. Theirs is no desire to go all or bust. If they don’t reduce their price we should have no issues with moving on.
 
mate, mitrovic is an awful awful shout. Toney would be a better shout in Jan than him

I have always liked Mitrovic bit of a throwback. Also he starts above Vlahovic for his country? Toney is banned we need something now. We cant go into the new season with Martial as our only CF
 
He is kind of brutish looking but he’s not really ugly.

His fashion sense is incredible. Maybe I’m out of touch - in fact, I’m sure I am - but even then, what the feck is he thinking?
I always thought he looks like one of the 7 dwarves. Not any in particular, just like he’s part of the gang. Face only of course.
 
I have always liked Mitrovic bit of a throwback. Also he starts above Vlahovic for his country? Toney is banned we need something now. We cant go into the new season with Martial as our only CF
It would not be a major surprise though. LvG warned ETH about the major governance issues at the club. This summer has proved him correct. Will any striker join the US tour? How do you practice tactics in the absence?
 
This is what happens when someone with little sense or taste has money.

He has a contract with Dolce Gabbana. Not sure they told him to wear this or he chose it, but keep in mind celebrities/sport stars are walking billboards.
 
Good that Atlanta is pricing him out. We should look elsewhere. He really doesn't look like worth more than £30-35m.
 
Looks like this is dead in the water as Atalanta want way too much money for the kid and they are perfectly right to ask for whatever price they want for him.
I would say we will be best served going for the experienced bloke at Porto and getting our young strikers that we have already on the books fired up to be fit and raring to score goals.
IMHO hugill and McNeill won’t be first team strikers at United
 
Last year there was. a lot of buzz about Porto's Evanilson. His goals dropped off a bit this year but crucially his xG remains in the 97th percentile so it might be a good time to bid while his perceived ability isn't sky high. He also seems quite creative and works hard in defence while being 6ft tall and only 23. All that sounds very good to me if the price is right. I like the look of Hojlund but would have zero appetite to pay the sums being touted.

Would be interested to hear from the guy who gave the views on Taremi as to whether he thinks Evanilson could do a job or what kind of money would be requested.
 
I disagree.. he’s just a striker with ‘good’ potential. Theirs is no desire to go all or bust. If they don’t reduce their price we should have no issues with moving on.

Of course I wouldn't want the club to spend anywhere near 100m, I am thinking £50m including add-ons should the maximum amount
 
He has a contract with Dolce Gabbana. Not sure they told him to wear this or he chose it, but keep in mind celebrities/sport stars are walking billboards.
Whatever, I’d of told them to fecking do one, I ain’t dressing up like a quality street.

Mr Dolce: Coops will you please dress like a quality street?

Me: fuuuuccckkk off Dolce I ain’t dressing like a quality street for no one and you can tell that to Gabbana too.

Mr Dolce: Here’s £2m

Me: ok I’ll do it but I’m not going as the strawberry delight. I have standards.
 
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