I think he was just taking the piss out of the posts in this thread
Rasmus Højlund | Signed for United
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One thing we did well last season was generate a lot of chances. Our build up play should improve with Mount and perhaps finally we’ll see Sancho shine with a true no. 9. Hojlund could be one of those players who elevates his game playing with better players.
My feeling (based on very little, mind) is that his plan is to get Hojlund in, and in some games play Hojlund up front with Rashford on the left. And then in other games he'll start Rashford up front and then have Hojlund off the bench. Settle the young player in during his debut season
He is prettier than Haaland. Our marketing team must like that at least.
Hardworking players will be successful. If Hoijund has right work ethics and makes himself a nuisance to defender, I am perfectly happy to get him signed. He may not be your 20 goals striker, but he could get 8, 14, 17, 20 year on year then we got something on our hands.
All numbers are from transfermarkt.com, don't know wether they're accurate.
The comparable examples where Vinicius and Rodrygo.
No one compared Martial or Rooney to Hojlund, I simply listed all u20 players in PL history that cost over 30m.
I think you're confusing currencies as well, didn't see Atalanta asking for £100m anywhere. At least that would be completely mad, I even think 80 are over the top. It's not a surefire superstar like Haaland or Mbappe were.
Yeah maybe that could be the thinking,still don't get why we didn't try for Thuram/Dembele as were free agents and would have given us another option but there you go
Woug wasn’t a success though.
@Hester
You misunderstood my post.
I agree with you. 100 %
The crap is all the utterly strange things that I am reading here. This is just about the strangest thread in the CAF at the moment.
No player, not even Kane, guarantees 20-25 league goals. Anyone asking that from a 20 year old right away can be ignored.
The Fail-Video could have been made for anyone except for Chuck Norris. Höjlunds first touch (and aerial abilities) are not his prime skills though.
Höjlund is not only fast. The 100 m under 11 seconds was actually 10.8 seconds according to his manager. That is likely Top 3-Speed in the PL.
The guy is an adjustment-monster going from unwanted in Copenhagen via Austria and Italy to prime target for the absolute elite clubs in Europe within 18 months. He would land on his feet in the PL.
But what about the nine goals?
They don't matter. Höjlunds goals/assists per 90 minutes are phenomenal for a player his age, adjusting to the most defensive league in Europe and playing his first season in a major league. He is also on 6 goals in his first 6 matches playing for Denmark, and is currently overall top scorer in the 2024 EURO Qualifications. Easy opposition? Yes, but you need to score the goals anyway.
Finally: Atalanta would be idiots to let him go cheap. I agree that Höjlund (as of right now) is a 40 mio Euro player. Things just don't work like that. In modern day football you pay for potential, and Höjlund has got potential in bucket loads. What is that potential worth? As much as someone is ready to pay for it.
60-70 mio is a fair asking price. Some of it can be bonuses.
EtH (and a lot of other executives in Europes top clubs) sees Höjlunds potential. Else, he would'nt be a target.
Conclusion: Go buy. Now.
When Kane and Osimhen are off the market, anyone left will have a go at Muani and Höjlund = The price will go up.
You misunderstood my post.
I agree with you. 100 %
The crap is all the utterly strange things that I am reading here. This is just about the strangest thread in the CAF at the moment.
No player, not even Kane, guarantees 20-25 league goals. Anyone asking that from a 20 year old right away can be ignored.
The Fail-Video could have been made for anyone except for Chuck Norris. Höjlunds first touch (and aerial abilities) are not his prime skills though.
Höjlund is not only fast. The 100 m under 11 seconds was actually 10.8 seconds according to his manager. That is likely Top 3-Speed in the PL.
The guy is an adjustment-monster going from unwanted in Copenhagen via Austria and Italy to prime target for the absolute elite clubs in Europe within 18 months. He would land on his feet in the PL.
But what about the nine goals?
They don't matter. Höjlunds goals/assists per 90 minutes are phenomenal for a player his age, adjusting to the most defensive league in Europe and playing his first season in a major league. He is also on 6 goals in his first 6 matches playing for Denmark, and is currently overall top scorer in the 2024 EURO Qualifications. Easy opposition? Yes, but you need to score the goals anyway.
Finally: Atalanta would be idiots to let him go cheap. I agree that Höjlund (as of right now) is a 40 mio Euro player. Things just don't work like that. In modern day football you pay for potential, and Höjlund has got potential in bucket loads. What is that potential worth? As much as someone is ready to pay for it.
60-70 mio is a fair asking price. Some of it can be bonuses.
EtH (and a lot of other executives in Europes top clubs) sees Höjlunds potential. Else, he would'nt be a target.
Conclusion: Go buy. Now.
When Kane and Osimhen are off the market, anyone left will have a go at Muani and Höjlund = The price will go up.
Who do you see as better fit out of Muani/Hojlund
Dan James worked hard.
The thing is that 70m could potentially tempt Brighton to part with Ferguson who already looks the part at PL level and is younger. So Hojlund is only really worthwhile if we get him for cheaper than that.
(Not saying that Hojlund won't ultimately be better than Ferguson, but Ferguson has shown more at this point despite being 2 years younger)
Dead in the water
We shouldn’t be bidding for Hojlund unless he was pretty cheap. His highlights impressed me then I watched a few games and he was pretty average. City won the league without a striker so let’s no pretend it’s a must. If it means waiting for another season so be it … it’s even better overpaying for Osimhen as even if he costs £120m he will always have a good resale value
Ugly fecker nonetheless.
We aren’t in a position to wait like City
What makes you so sure
Kolo Muani is a good forward. He is fast, but not as fast as Höjlund. Muani is mostly operating in a two-man-striker duo with the evenly fast Jesper Lindström. He is a player to run for deep passes and has a well rounded link up play. Right now, I think that the two of them are quite evenly matched. The way I see it, Höjlund is better suited to the EtH-game though.
Ferguson is PL-proven and only 18. His season was impressive, but he is still 18. 20 is a stretch to carry the weight of being the number one striker for United. Being The Guy at 18, and with less than 1000 minutes of serious football at adult-level, is to beg for trouble. Right now Höjlund is way further in his development than Ferguson.
Ferguson is PL-proven and only 18. His season was impressive, but he is still 18. 20 is a stretch to carry the weight of being the number one striker for United. Being The Guy at 18, and with less than 1000 minutes of serious football at adult-level, is to beg for trouble. Right now Höjlund is way further in his development than Ferguson.
They won't sell Caicedo for anything under 100 but you think they'll sell their new prized asset who just signed a contract until 2027 for 70? Beyond that I absolutely have no idea how people have an issue paying this amount for Hojlund but are all too happy to pay this amount or more for an 18 year old who has proved absolutely nothing yet
What do people think is a fair valuation?
£50m tops.
£40m pounds maximum.
He is a promising young talent but doesn't really stand out at the top of his age group. There are a lot of very talented and promising strikers in this 18-20 year old bracket (Ferguson, Sesko, Tel, Roque, Wahi, Moukoko, Hlozek), Hojlund isn't clearly at the top of that group in terms of talent by any means, and the biggest transfer fee paid for any of them has been for Roque for 40m euro plus add ons. Sesko, Tel, Hlozek all sold more for 20-30m euro range and Wahi is reportedly priced around the same.
That's just not true though is it? Granted he may not stand head and shoulders above all the people you mentioned, but he's hardly
Sesko may have had a better scoring season this season, but Hojlund's short time in the Austrian league alongside Sesko saw him have a much better goals to game ratio than him, as well as currently a much better goals to game ratio for their national teams, 6 in 21 for Sesko and 6 in 6 for Hojlund. Which is why he went for 17mill Euro's to Atalanta. Besides let's be honest, he's only gone for the price he has because he's transferred from one RB team to another.
Hlozek has less goals in more games for Leverkusen than Hojlund does for Atalanta this season, and a similar national team goals to games ratio as Sesko, so way less than Hojlund
Do I think he's any worse than Ferguson, Roque, Moukoko, Tel etc? No I don't but they are also younger and perhaps more generational than Hojlund, but that's only a perhaps, give it 2 years when they are the same age as Hojlund and they might be incredible or they might just be okay... regardless
Good luck getting Tel out of Bayern Munich for less than Hojlund
Good luck getting Ferguson out of Brighton for less than Hojlund
Good luck getting Moukoku out of Dortmund for less than Hojlund
Wahi has ridiculous controversies around him that aren't even worth bringing into the conversation about buying him I think personally.
I would argue Hojlund is relatively on the same field as all of them, as in none of them have truly proven anything yet but all have talent and skill that could see them develop into top strikers in the years to come, that is what Atalanta believe and why they obviously want a high price.
I appreciate the discussion. I like looking at stats because they do tell a story. A player that Scores 10 goals from 10xg has similar finishing to a player that scores 20 goals from 20xg. We can know that the 20g player may get more opportunities but both players finish at roughly the same level. I agree with your point on the system holds him back, but even if he gets more opportunities he would score more goals since he is a good finisher as we would expect.
My preference around Hojlund revolves around a few stats (taken from FB ref). He is 99 percentile in Progressive Passes received, which shows he can hold up the ball well. 93 percentile in touches in the Attacking penalty area. But the other 2 that excites me is that he is 75 percentile in Progressive Carries and 83 percentile in successful take-on. With the dynamic attacking shape, he has the ability to move to channels receive the ball turn, and take a man on, allowing Rashford to cut underneath or create space for late runs from Mount and Fernandes. Same with Antony on the other side. I just think his dynamic presence is a better fit than Vlahovic who (based on the stats) is more of a true center-of-the-box target forward than an excellent finisher.
To be fair, that's an extremely low bar to clear
they feck their aunts?
€50m with add-ons for goals scored, etc etc
That's exactly what I'm arguing. He is a good prospect but so are all these other guys and none of them have sold for more than 40m euro plus bonuses (and Roque some people seem to see as a truly elite prospect). To say that £40m is a fair valuation (as I did) is already to say that it is fair that he cost a bit more than any of these other players have sold for. I don't see what is wrong with that.
For what its worth, we shouldn't overstate the importance of stats in such small samples at such young ages but I think you are cutting the data to fit your argument. Sesko has 20 g+a in about 2000 minutes this past year, Hojlund had 12 in about 1500 minutes, very similar rates of output. Hlozek had 8 in 1300 Bundesliga minutes, Hojlund 11 in 1800 Serie A minutes. We're talking about very similar levels of production and players that all have a lot of natural skills that need refining.
The absolute state of Haaland in yesterday's EA FC reveal.
Cornrows and pyjamas.
I think at this point he's embraced the fact that he's an ugly fecker and now wants to go out of his way to look as ridiculous as possible. Fair play to him.The absolute state of Haaland in yesterday's EA FC reveal.
Cornrows and pyjamas.
My dog's arse is prettier than Haaland but I'm pretty sure the Man Utd marketing team would struggle to make money from that.
Excluding some very sick websites that some perverts may frequent
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The absolute state of Haaland in yesterday's EA FC reveal.
Cornrows and pyjamas.
Are there some photoshop geniuses here that can edit this picture and add cornrows to make it up to date?
He is kind of brutish looking but he’s not really ugly.The absolute state of Haaland in yesterday's EA FC reveal.
Cornrows and pyjamas.
His fashion sense is incredible. Maybe I’m out of touch - in fact, I’m sure I am - but even then, what the feck is he thinking?
The absolute state of Haaland in yesterday's EA FC reveal.
Cornrows and pyjamas.
Strong early '00s energy about this and I welcome it.
Fecker wore pj’s to an event.The absolute state of Haaland in yesterday's EA FC reveal.
Cornrows and pyjamas.
If he was scoring that many goals for United I couldn't give a feck what he was wearing. Actually I don't even though he isn't.
It’s a statement of intent. Every ounce of his sensibility goes into goal-scoring.
At least you can admit it. Now imagine JLingz wearing his own gear
Can such a thing exist?
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