[Superunknown]

1 in 4 or 1 in 5 is what we can expect from him unless we have significant fundamental changes at the club. The style of football and focus of being more clinical with out attacking play needs to change.

 

[Mike Smalling]

Come on, man. He’s no Messi, but he’s shown that he does way more than you give him credit for. He can turn on players and outrun them with the ball, he creates both space and chances for others and he has a wide variety of finishes in his locker. He is clearly asked to keep the cb’s busy so our wingers have space to run into and shoot or pass to Bruno, Dalot or someone else running into the box from deep - all the while Hojlund has no chance of getting at the end of it himself because he has been busy drawing the defenders away. As it is his instructions are to be primarily a hold up player who creates chances for others and contribute defensively on set pieces as well which hampers his play as a striker.

I don't mean to be overly critical of Højlund, but he clearly has some limitations as a player. He's not the complete forward, and relies mostly on other players to create chances for him, provide crosses, deep balls, etc., and it's just not happening in this team. It's not some huge indictment of him - it's just the type of player he is. I honestly don't think it would be hyperbole to say that Haaland would also struggle a lot in this team, whereas other types of players would find it easier to make things happen on their own.

 

[Grand Vizier]

Remember Kane against Spain in the final? That's how he would look like for us. You can't magically score goals with no service. I don't understand why that is hard to understand for some.
Posts like "sometimes you just got to grab the game by the scruff of the neck" are hilarious. What does that even mean? Say feck off to the opposition, absolutely dominate them and score 3 goals out of nowhere? It is such a pointless thing to say.

This is Premier League. You don't just dribble through 5 players and score on a regular basis because fans want you to. And he is absolutely not a shit forward because he doesn't score in a certain game.

When was the last time Garnacho or Rashford made a cutback pass to someone? They are always looking to shoot from weird angles or just smash the ball into 6 defenders instead of actually trying to get it to Højlund. One of Rasmus's strengths are attacking low crosses into the box, so why do our wingers rarely do that? Garnacho did it once yesterday to Højlund and almost resulted in a goal, so obviously Alejandro's thinking is don't try that again. He has a lot of positive impact, but his decision making and game intelligence is horrid.

Comments regarding him being a poor link-up player, what? He is very good at it, especially considering his age, so not really sure how someone can conclude that.

 

[Grand Vizier]

How did we spend £110m on two strikers who can’t score goals and can’t even get the basics of being a good striker?

Superb insight. Explain to us what a good striker does when you have wingers who give you one chance per game.

 

[Toshey]

Rasmus is excellent young player and will thrive under competent manager and a properly attacking team.

 

[Beachryan]

Was interesting watching Nunez yesterday: LFC often ping long balls into the wide channels for him to go to, pulling CBs away and opening up space for both the wide players to cut in and attacking midfielders to get into the box. Rasmus is made for that, and yet we never do it. It's bizarre, and that would fit our players so we'll.

 

[FrankDrebin]

Was interesting watching Nunez yesterday: LFC often ping long balls into the wide channels for him to go to, pulling CBs away and opening up space for both the wide players to cut in and attacking midfielders to get into the box. Rasmus is made for that, and yet we never do it. It's bizarre, and that would fit our players so we'll.

It is something I would like to see more of. It'll help his all round game, it would help others and it'll just give us some much needed attacking variety.
Maybe it has been worked at in training and ETH has been less than impressed with it, who knows ?.
I will say though, much as his finishing can be laughably bad at the best of times, Nunez is a better rounded player outside the box.

 

[Devil81]

Didnt he kind of do that at times last year? Go solo and score? Do you expect him to just drop deep, get the ball, dribble past 3-4 men and score? That’s basically what you’re suggesting.

So for 70 million we are referencing one goal against a poor side in the Champions league.

Yes I expect him to drop deep and show a bit of need for the ball, I'm not expecting him to dribble past 3-4 men but I'd like him to take more responsibility for creating his own chances. Maybe pick the ball up and have a go from distance. If Harry Kane isn't getting the ball he drops deep and creates an opening for a driven shot, it's not rocket science.

I find it more confusing why people assume the lad should just sit and wait for service. He's not Javier Hernandez he has far more to his game than just waiting to be supplied.

 

[ROFLUTION]

So for 70 million we are referencing one goal against a poor side in the Champions league.

Yes I expect him to drop deep and show a bit of need for the ball, I'm not expecting him to dribble past 3-4 men but I'd like him to take more responsibility for creating his own chances. Maybe pick the ball up and have a go from distance. If Harry Kane isn't getting the ball he drops deep and creates an opening for a driven shot, it's not rocket science.

I find it more confusing why people assume the lad should just sit and wait for service. He's not Javier Hernandez he has far more to his game than just waiting to be supplied.

For all we know, he could be instructed to not drop deep. Last season it was even made clear in interviews that he had to sit the furthest on top and let McTominay roam the space behind.

 

[fps]

I remember when Mourinho was sacked, he wanted Perisic to supply crosses for Lukaku. Simple, but an actual bit of thinking about combinations to score goals. At the moment we don’t have attackers who provide chances for others, but those attackers also don’t score goals themselves. So this is bonkers. Either have attackers who serve a central striker, or a central striker who serves the wide attackers. But right now I don’t know what a typical Man Utd goal looks like.

Into this steps Hojlund, who could be a really good player in a few years. But what kind of player I don’t know, and nor do the coaches really I think.

 

[Schmeichels pinky]

I will say though, much as his finishing can be laughably bad at the best of times, Nunez is a better rounded player outside the box.

Yes, and 4 years older. Hojlund is very good at everything for his age except heading and a top finisher. All in all I’d take him over Nunez any day.

relies mostly on other players to create chances for him, provide crosses, deep balls, etc.,

As most strikers do. But I don’t think it’s true that he can’t create chances for himself. Many of his goals last season he basically did most of the work himself. At his age he is a very promising forward with potential to become elite

 

[Grand Vizier]

So for 70 million we are referencing one goal against a poor side in the Champions league.

Yes I expect him to drop deep and show a bit of need for the ball, I'm not expecting him to dribble past 3-4 men but I'd like him to take more responsibility for creating his own chances. Maybe pick the ball up and have a go from distance. If Harry Kane isn't getting the ball he drops deep and creates an opening for a driven shot, it's not rocket science.

I find it more confusing why people assume the lad should just sit and wait for service. He's not Javier Hernandez he has far more to his game than just waiting to be supplied.

That is exactly what he did yesterday, no? He got a nice shot off from distance that resulted in a corner. Was a fairly hard and tricky shot changing direction mid air.

As for your other point, he created chances for himself last season and scored from those against Newcastle, and Villa I think it was. But a striker simply cannot do that every game, because there are two centre backs and midfielders all around him quite often.

I agree that he should impose himself more, but he is very young and strikers usually aren't developed enough to lead the line for a PL team at that age, so it is unfair expectations to put on him. He didn't decide the fee. We need a more experienced one, but he has been decent for us when you consider his attacking colleagues who supply nothing for him.

 

[SirSpud]

Hojlund is still young, but his one clear problem is that a good salary and a playing career at Man United seems to be enough for him.

Last season after a draw in an interview he was in heaven after scoring a goal at home turf. This season after a draw he showed off his new goal celebration on instagram and seemed like in a really happy mood. A draw is not enough!

I bet this is a problem for many current Man Utd players. Good salary, beautiful wife, nice car and good life. That seems to be enough and the last killer instinct is missing. Daniel James' wild goal celebration after equalizing in the last minutes while Solskajer was in charge was the lowest point. I hope Ruben Amorim will motivate the players again and that hunger, desire and killer instict will rise again. We need big balls and attitude on the pitch!

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

He's going to be the perfect striker for Amorim. A match made in heaven!

 

[Alemar]

Was invisible during his 20 minutes cameo today

 

[CannibalSpectre]

Was invisible during his 20 minutes cameo today

Agreed. He was nowhere to be seen.

 

[Woziak]

He's going to be the perfect striker for Amorim. A match made in heaven!

He’ll be benched the moment Amorim gets Gyokeres as his first signing.

 

[V.O.]

Was invisible during his 20 minutes cameo today

None of the subs did much. It was already 5-2 and both teams had accepted the result and were playing at half pace by then.

 

[Crimson King]

He’ll be benched the moment Amorim gets Gyokeres as his first signing.

Peple are dreaming if they think we're going to sign Gyokeres

 

[Schmeichels pinky]

None of the subs did much. It was already 5-2 and both teams had accepted the result and were playing at half pace by then.

Since when has that kept people from slagging off players? Don’t spoil their fun!

 

[Isotope]

Why didn't he start? Ruud doesn't rate him?

 

[saik]

Can't wait for Amorim to work with him. He can mould his own Gyokeres here and we don't need to spend another 70-80m on a striker from a weaker league again.

 

[Lyng]

He’ll be benched the moment Amorim gets Gyokeres as his first signing.

We would be absolute idiots if we sign him. He was proper shite before Amorin got his hands on him.

 

[Woziak]

We would be absolute idiots if we sign him. He was proper shite before Amorin got his hands on him.

The new coach will want certain players who understand his style of football, he’ll want at least 2 or 3 players that he knows.

 

[Lyng]

The new coach will want certain players who understand his style of football, he’ll want at least 2 or 3 players that he knows.

Yeah but how he has used Gyokeres is pretty much how Rasmus was used at Atalanta where he was at his best. There are other positions that would make much more sense to change.

 

[Woziak]

Yeah but how he has used Gyokeres is pretty much how Rasmus was used at Atalanta where he was at his best. There are other positions that would make much more sense to change.

United should have two similar players for
Every position, watching a 16/17 year old Chido last night in an Under 21 match, proved to me he needs 1/2 years to develop as that third option, right now Ethan Wheatley is more developed.

Joshua Zirkzee is not a number 9 suited to Amorin’s style and formation. Zirkzee does not have the pace or anticipation right now of an elite number 9, he may be a revolution for one of the number 10 positions however Amorim normally like one of his 10’s to be Creative and operate from left and the other to be more of a second striker with pace from the right or vice versa, Rashford and Bruno suit these positions with Mount and Garnaucho as alternative options, even Kobbie might be used more advanced as a 10 behind the one number 9 we have that suits his style, Rasmus and maybe Wheatley but both are very young and inexperienced.

This is why I see the club moving Zirkzee on in the Summer using, the 30-40m towards Gyokeres who will cost £60-70m.

 

[Grand Vizier]

He’ll be benched the moment Amorim gets Gyokeres as his first signing.

In an ideal world, we would have both Gyokeres and Højlund. But it just isn't very realistic for several reasons. We have more pressing needs in our squad and we don't have unlimited money to spend, so a striker isn't going to be a priority in the summer, especially not one that will cost between £80-100m.

Secondly, they are quite similar type of forwards that share a lot of the same qualities and skill set. One of the reasons Gyokeres scores a lot of goals is because Amorim has set up his teams to create chances for him. Højlund gets on average one chance a game to score because we have Garnacho and Rashford looking to score themselves most of the time. Gyokeres wouldn't look half as good playing for us with no suppliers for him. He is also playing in Primeira Liga, which is a whole different level of quality. That doesn't mean he wouldn't be able to make the step up here, but there are certainly no guarantees, and it would be a very expensive risk when we have other needs that are more important.

 

[Carl]

Regardless of how he performs under Amorim you can bet your life we'll sign another striker in the Summer. Maybe even January.

 

[BuzzKillington]

Why didn't he start? Ruud doesn't rate him?

I assumed he was resting him for the weekend.

 

[Lyng]

United should have two similar players for
Every position, watching a 16/17 year old Chido last night in an Under 21 match, proved to me he needs 1/2 years to develop as that third option, right now Ethan Wheatley is more developed.

Joshua Zirkzee is not a number 9 suited to Amorin’s style and formation. Zirkzee does not have the pace or anticipation right now of an elite number 9, he may be a revolution for one of the number 10 positions however Amorim normally like one of his 10’s to be Creative and operate from left and the other to be more of a second striker with pace from the right or vice versa, Rashford and Bruno suit these positions with Mount and Garnaucho as alternative options, even Kobbie might be used more advanced as a 10 behind the one number 9 we have that suits his style, Rasmus and maybe Wheatley but both are very young and inexperienced.

This is why I see the club moving Zirkzee on in the Summer using, the 30-40m towards Gyokeres who will cost £60-70m.

Because we have positions where we dont have a single good fit. At least Højlunds fits the striker he prefers.

 

[UpWithRivers]

Regardless of how he performs under Amorim you can bet your life we'll sign another striker in the Summer. Maybe even January.

I wouldnt bet my life. We still play with a non LB at LB and a non RW at RW and we have known we need strikers for years yet bought Zirkzee and Hojlund. United dont do things normally. We probably will just buy another CB and another RB

 

[Cassidy]

I wouldnt bet my life. We still play with a non LB at LB and a non RW at RW and we have known we need strikers for years yet bought Zirkzee and Hojlund. United dont do things normally. We probably will just buy another CB and another RB

We want to sign Sesko in the summer of 2025 been reported all season, maybe the target will change given the new manager but we will certainly sign a CF in the summer in my opinion.
Zirkzee was not signed as an out and out striker and I can see him actually playing in the 10/inside forward role in the Amorim system

LB and winger will likely come in in January by the way with Antony being moved on

I also think its likely Rashford leaves in the summer and is replaced with a top forward signing (other than the CF)

 

[Superunknown]

I'm very curious and interested to see how things change for him under Amorim. Could be a huge opportunity for him to help take things to the next level.

 

[romufc]

I dont understand why so many people are getting so worked up on Hojlund.

Lets wait and see what Amorin does with him, I think he's the perfect striker for him.

Does he need to improve? yes, he needs to improve his hold up play massively, once he gets that, he will be one of the top forwards imo.

Gyokeres is a good striker but Hojlund has all the same attributes whilst being younger. He can run the channels, he can finish, he can beat a man. Lets wait until we have a coach who can attack before judging our attack.

 

[Cassidy]

I dont understand why so many people are getting so worked up on Hojlund.

Lets wait and see what Amorin does with him, I think he's the perfect striker for him.

Does he need to improve? yes, he needs to improve his hold up play massively, once he gets that, he will be one of the top forwards imo.

Gyokeres is a good striker but Hojlund has all the same attributes whilst being younger. He can run the channels, he can finish, he can beat a man. Lets wait until we have a coach who can attack before judging our attack.

Will be great when we have them both

 

[Schmeichels pinky]

I dont understand why so many people are getting so worked up on Hojlund.

Lets wait and see what Amorin does with him, I think he's the perfect striker for him.

Does he need to improve? yes, he needs to improve his hold up play massively, once he gets that, he will be one of the top forwards imo.

Gyokeres is a good striker but Hojlund has all the same attributes whilst being younger. He can run the channels, he can finish, he can beat a man. Lets wait until we have a coach who can attack before judging our attack.

He can pass accurately and intelligently and his hold up play is promising if a bit inconsistent. The only thing he needs to improve “massively” is heading.

 

[romufc]

He can pass accurately and intelligently and his hold up play is promising if a bit inconsistent. The only thing he needs to improve “massively” is heading.

What people also dont understand is, there aren't that many forwards that are complete, let alone one that is 21. They usually get better with age and experience, with proper coaching he could become a top top striker.

I mean this is the good thing about us getting a permanent manager this season, it gives him 6/7 months to work with Hojlund and make a decision on him.

 

[poleglass red]

surprised he didn't start last night, a goal or 2 would have done his confidence some good.

 

[Schmeichels pinky]

What people also dont understand is, there aren't that many forwards that are complete, let alone one that is 21. They usually get better with age and experience, with proper coaching he could become a top top striker.

I mean this is the good thing about us getting a permanent manager this season, it gives him 6/7 months to work with Hojlund and make a decision on him.

Excactly. What I can’t understand is why it’s not glaringly obvious to people that he’s an extremely talented player with, maybe most importantly, a very strong and resilient mindset coupled with a positive and likable personality. Unless he gets injured a lot there’s every chance he’ll become elite with the right manager.

 

[Gandalf]

This is why I see the club moving Zirkzee on in the Summer using, the 30-40m towards Gyokeres who will cost £60-70m.

Looking at the fees strikers move for nowadays I would say you are dreaming if you think Sporting will let him go for anywhere close to that. If we sell Zirkzee for 30-40M based on amoritization we will be at net zero and so it won't do anything towards a fee for a replacement. I can see Amorim wanting another striker to rotate with Rasmus but we will most probably be looking at a cheaper young option he can develop rather than signing the already established player who is likely to have a ton of clubs after his signature.