9
Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 15
- Goals
- 4
- Assists
- 1
- Yellow cards
- 0
Ten Hag took a struggling striker to Ajax from West Ham reserves and turned him in to one of the top scorers in Europe but couldnt get anything out of Hojlund
Ten Hag made Højlund and so many other of our players regress with his awful tactics.
Exactly. There seems to be a weird popular opinion on this forum that coaching is like earning points in training and the distributing it to particular skills. So many people thought Antony just needs to work on his right foot, it's bizarre really.
Passing; bellow average
Ball control; bellow average
Technique; bellow average
Movement; bad
Positioning in 16m; awful
Heading; bad
Pace; very good
Finishing; very good
Strength; good
It is blind faith expecting that he will become even United material, not even mentioning first choice striker.
Ball control; bellow average
Technique; bellow average
Movement; bad
Positioning in 16m; awful
Heading; bad
Pace; very good
Finishing; very good
Strength; good
It is blind faith expecting that he will become even United material, not even mentioning first choice striker.
He's not working out and I'm starting to doubt he ever will
Thought he should have busted a gut to get into the 6 yard box when Garnacho played one across.
Another underpar showing.
Another underpar showing.
I agree. He got on the ball and spread a few good balls. He also linked up well with Amad. There are signs of a player in there and I'm surprised hardly anyone has mentioned this in his performance thread
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“Dubbed the new Andreas Cornelius.”
atm I see a 13-14 EPL goals per season striker at best, if he even improves that much in next 2 or 3 years. and that's without taking his underwhelming overall game into the account. I'm not sure he will ever be worth the time invested in him, but stranger things have happened obviously.
The problem here - and it should have been clear to the people who did this - is that you don't put young, raw players into such pressurised situations because the potential fallout can be ruinous to their development and cost them months, if not years, in recovery - both in terms of confidence and identity.
I have said (it to the point people might be sick of seeing it) that you always need a proper attacker to bear the majority of the goalscoring load and the pressures and pitfalls that come with it. Hojlund is and has regressed under the pressure and weight of expectation and is genuinely a worse player now than he was when he got here because of how we've handled him.
Perhaps Amorim works wonders and gets him up to par - as in a Manchester United calibre squaddie - but I see someone who should be on loan at a smaller club at best when he plays. He does too many things wrong, and the compound of that is someone who looks lost as one piece of poor play follows another and another and another. Even when he is on the ball, he doesn't really have a clue what to do with it or where to go once it's released. You can't help but notice his foibles because he looks so out of place with others in his own game, nevermind the competence or ability of those around him. The more you focus solely on him, the more problems come to light and that's really not where things should be with your lead the line striker who cost a small fortune.
It's going to be a very interesting season for Hojlund and the decision of what the club do with him, for his benefit as well as our own.
I have said (it to the point people might be sick of seeing it) that you always need a proper attacker to bear the majority of the goalscoring load and the pressures and pitfalls that come with it. Hojlund is and has regressed under the pressure and weight of expectation and is genuinely a worse player now than he was when he got here because of how we've handled him.
Perhaps Amorim works wonders and gets him up to par - as in a Manchester United calibre squaddie - but I see someone who should be on loan at a smaller club at best when he plays. He does too many things wrong, and the compound of that is someone who looks lost as one piece of poor play follows another and another and another. Even when he is on the ball, he doesn't really have a clue what to do with it or where to go once it's released. You can't help but notice his foibles because he looks so out of place with others in his own game, nevermind the competence or ability of those around him. The more you focus solely on him, the more problems come to light and that's really not where things should be with your lead the line striker who cost a small fortune.
It's going to be a very interesting season for Hojlund and the decision of what the club do with him, for his benefit as well as our own.
That's a bit weird. Clearly from someone who knows neither player. Apart from size they couldnt be more different.
Stop crying, it’s not that serious. A harmless Football Manager reference from about 15 years ago and you’re taking it thick.
He will be loaned out in the summer to be sold for 15m a year later. We do not have time for him.
I’d still start him over Rashford. At least he can hold up the ball better.
I think the fact that it only took 2 days training for Ruben to decide he wasnt good enough to start this match is an indication that he'll be one of those on the sell list next summer.
It's a moronic comparison nothing more nothing less.
So Eriksen is Amorims preference over Ugarte and Kobbie?
I'd been feeling a little deprived of kneejerk steaming hot takes under the circumstances, but this one should keep me going for a bit.
I can see any other reason why he would start Rashford over Hojlund, its not like Hojlund was injured or anything
Rashford has had more training with Amorim in the new system because he wasn't on international duty while Hojlund was?
Boom. Red rocket shot down.
His all round game was miles better than Rashford when he came on.
But he's just zero threat. I've never known a striker so averse to having a shot. That moment in the 2nd half where he made a nice turn , was running at goal, and decided to pass instead of just taking a shot was infuriating.
But he's just zero threat. I've never known a striker so averse to having a shot. That moment in the 2nd half where he made a nice turn , was running at goal, and decided to pass instead of just taking a shot was infuriating.
He was too busy taking a few step backs for a cut back where Zirkcee was.
Also decided to pass when a shot was clearly the better option
Doesn't bode well for Rasmus then!
Hojlund will never make it as a player here. This is my opinion of course. The touch he had at around 77 mins (vs Ipswich) when Bruno passed to him and he returned it back to him. A decent striker would have taken it on the half turn and got a shot off. It's as though he as no awareness of what's around him. Sorry, I know he's young but he won't make it here.
Yep, it was opening up for a shot and then he passed out wide, then the ball went back to defence and then we lost it
You have to give him a few training sessions with Ruben to see if he can be developed I think. He hardly gets any service when played and maybe Amorim will train the team to get more balls to the striker, as its badly needed whoever is up top.
Exactly the guy has no ability to taken the defender on the half turn.
The guy is so technically limited in that way and he is always moving like a ballet dancer carrying weights unless there is clear open space.
Before that he dribbled in to some open space and could have taken a shot with his own prefferes left foot but he decided to pass it back to bruno.
Its starting to look like the reason he receives so little service is because his team mates no that he will make the wrong decision.
It really is looking like only danish supporters are still optimistic about him.
Yep. He is almost useless at the moment. I do think there's a serious confidence issue there and a loan would probably help more than what we can offer him at United in terms of development-friendly environment.
Except that he did excactly that last season, at Atalanta and in Austria. He also mostly made the right decisions then and on several occasions his passes put Garnacho, Bruno and Amad through on goal. Unfortunately, none of them were as clinics as Hojlund. You could at least try to make it seem as though you watched us last season or didn’t have an agenda against him - don’t know which it is.
The fact he didn’t take those opportunities to shoot yesterday very clearly shows his problem atm: confidence.
Tbh shows with the goal Rashford scored & getting in to another tap in position where Garnacho couldnt cut back in time.
Hojlund seems to be still on the plane from Denmark than anywhere near the box
It’s not a comparison. It’s just a lighthearted joke about how Football Manager would have stuff like “Dubbed the new Darren Huckerby” because he was English, despite the bloke being 7 and 1/2 feet tall and unable to run more than 6 yards.
The Jovic trajectory is very likely.
That's a strange take given we have a new manager in.
A nice number of strange takes in here.
I lost hope in him in the match when he was at the edge of the box and he made good space for a shot on target with good movement, then something happened in his brain when he decided not to shot from a very good position and pass it instead sideway (not even a good pass) and killed a very good attack.
Yeah, really good post.
I remain mystified about why so many fans still want to see him lead the line playing like an absolute drain. I think he’s probably been our worst outfielder this season. Even Zirkzee at least has a bit of Weghorst about him to get more out of his teammates. Hojlund offers his teammates nothing. It’s no good scrapping and holding up the ball, when you have no instinct for the timing of and weighting for the simple follow-up pass.
He looks like a player shot of confidence. That moment in the second half, last season he hits that for sure, this year, he ends up making a desperately terrible pass just to get the ball away from himself.
This is absolute gobbledegook shite, no offence. If you're reading so much into things from the lineup yesterday you must find yourself believing and being convinced of all sorts of things painfully easily in real life.
This is absolute gobbledegook shite, no offence. If you're reading so much into things from the lineup yesterday you must find yourself believing and being convinced of all sorts of things painfully easily in real life.
Well nowadays you never know to be fair.
It’s not about whether he should lead the line or not at the moment. It’s the “Hojlund won’t ever make it here”-camp vs the “Hojlund might make it here”-camp. The former spouting all sorts of nonsense, cherry picking and lying. The latter divided between people thinking he may just need some weeks or months under Amorim and others thinking he has to be 2nd choice behind an experienced striker for a longer while or even loaned out.
Out of all his actions in the game, this is probably the worst example you could have used. This is the Premier League, you don't just turn defenders in the box like they're not there on a consistent basis, especially when your back is to the goal. The idea behind the pass was a much better choice because Bruno would have been facing the goal - being inside the box - if the defender hadn't fouled him.
There are thousands of examples where "a decent striker" did not do what you just said, and instead opted for the better choice, by linking up with team mates who are going to be in a better position.
If he was an academy graduate he wouldn't get much more time. But with him costing 60-70 million, he'll probably get the next season, but he really needs to show us something.
Yeah I’m starting to worry about him now, either he starts to be more selfish in the box and get some shots away or he needs to improve on his all round game. At the minutes neither are good enough.