[Shaw's Shank Redemption]

If he wasnt scandinavian & hadnt score a hattrick against finland we wouldnt have gone for him. The hype for him grew abnormally after that match. His name also sounded like Haaland.

Was never a hot prospect even at Atalanta or Copenhagen & his United problems can be seen almost perfectly at Denmark. A player who finds it very hard to get involved in a 90 min match.

I find his goals for Atalanta and United both very underwhelming aswell.

Arguably 2 or 3 goals at max that can only make me smile but still doesnt make my jaw drop.

He has the rest of the season to come out under Amorim and score 12+ goals in the PL alone and atleast some against the likes of City, Liverpool & Arsenal.

Even at his best, with all the service provided to him he doesnt look like a striker that can get you above 20 goals a season (at max 20) and during time the league is having players like Palmer, Haaland, Salah scoring 20-40 goals in the season easily then i dont know building a whole team around getting the best out of Hojlund is the answer.

Hopefully im proven wrong because i genuinely believe a young Kasper Dolberg, Harder & Obi Martin look or looked like better danish prospects.

 

[Schmeichels pinky]

If he wasnt scandinavian & hadnt score a hattrick against finland we wouldnt have gone for him. The hype for him grew abnormally after that match. His name also sounded like Haaland.

Was never a hot prospect even at Atalanta or Copenhagen & his United problems can be seen almost perfectly at Denmark. A player who finds it very hard to get involved in a 90 min match.

I find his goals for Atalanta and United both very underwhelming aswell.

Arguably 2 or 3 goals at max that can only make me smile but still doesnt make my jaw drop.

He has the rest of the season to come out under Amorim and score 12+ goals in the PL alone and atleast some against the likes of City, Liverpool & Arsenal.

Even at his best, with all the service provided to him he doesnt look like a striker that can get you above 20 goals a season (at max 20) and during time the league is having players like Palmer, Haaland, Salah scoring 20-40 goals in the season easily then i dont know building a whole team around getting the best out of Hojlund is the answer.

Hopefully im proven wrong because i genuinely believe a young Kasper Dolberg, Harder & Obi Martin look or looked like better danish prospects.

Thank you for a perfect example of why I keep posting in here. It’s not to convince everybody that Hojlund is the new Brazilian Ronaldo, but to push back against lies like yours.

He most certainly was a hot prospect at Atalanta! He was catapulted from Denmark via Austria to Italy where Gasperini called him one of the biggest talents in Europe - a view shared widely in the football world. He scored 10 in what amounts to 20 full matches in his season there - the first time he played at that level at all.
Why the f*** would we buy him just because he’s Scandinavian? We overpaid, yes, but we bought him because he had (and still has) bags of potential. I understand you can’t see that, but no need to get ridiculous.
Our striker doesn’t need to make your jaw drop. He needs to score goals. Hojlund did that last season. 16 in his debut season is good for a 20 yo. even if they came in patches. He was injured for part of the season and very unlucky with a coupe of cancelled goals as well. Again, fine you don’t find him good enough but you don’t need to belittle what he did last season.
If a youngster scores 10 in the league and 6 in Europe in his first season here, why wouldn’t you think he could get 20+? I mean, if he’s as bad as some think, how did he ever manage to score those goals last season in a very dysfunctional team?

He might not make it here - the difference between being a very good striker in a mid table and a top team is very small. I still think he will as Amorim will use him much better than ETH and reportedly is very good at man management. But if he doesn’t, I believe a major part of the reason is that his initial confidence and general positivity has been sucked out of him. That’s what I’m seeing atm, even though he always tries hard and gives everything. Bereft of confidence.

 

[L1nk]

If he wasnt scandinavian & hadnt score a hattrick against finland we wouldnt have gone for him. The hype for him grew abnormally after that match. His name also sounded like Haaland.

Was never a hot prospect even at Atalanta or Copenhagen & his United problems can be seen almost perfectly at Denmark. A player who finds it very hard to get involved in a 90 min match.

I find his goals for Atalanta and United both very underwhelming aswell.

Arguably 2 or 3 goals at max that can only make me smile but still doesnt make my jaw drop.

He has the rest of the season to come out under Amorim and score 12+ goals in the PL alone and atleast some against the likes of City, Liverpool & Arsenal.

Even at his best, with all the service provided to him he doesnt look like a striker that can get you above 20 goals a season (at max 20) and during time the league is having players like Palmer, Haaland, Salah scoring 20-40 goals in the season easily then i dont know building a whole team around getting the best out of Hojlund is the answer.

Hopefully im proven wrong because i genuinely believe a young Kasper Dolberg, Harder & Obi Martin look or looked like better danish prospects.

Sorry but do you honestly think our scouts haven't been keeping an eye on him for a while? I know United haven't been the best in the transfer market but do you honestly think a professional football club and business such as Manchester United only decided to sign Hojlund, at a high price mind you, because he scored 3 goals against Finland and his name sounds like Haaland? God people are so dumb

 

[Shaw's Shank Redemption]

Sorry but do you honestly think our scouts haven't been keeping an eye on him for a while? I know United haven't been the best in the transfer market but do you honestly think a professional football club and business such as Manchester United only decided to sign Hojlund, at a high price mind you, because he scored 3 goals against Finland and his name sounds like Haaland? God people are so dumb

Again, as many people said Mctominay got on to the end of chances Hojlund should be getting to but is never in the right space?

How many times do you see him rubbing his bum on the defenders but having no ability to make runs in behind the defence.

He makes so many few runs and few shots per game that his conversion rate is so high.

Ive got no Link to Denmark & he looks bloody awful and worse for Denmark than he does for United?

Whats your excuse for that? Rashford wasnt whipping balls in to him in a Denmark shirt?

If he was performing for Denmark even with a few goals; which is pretty much totally another team then id be more confident in his ability to perform at United. However he is a ghost both for Denmark & United and excuses are being made consistently.

Young enough for me to give him a chance under a hopefully world class manager helping him be a world class player - but if i had to bet my house on it; then right now i probably wouldnt.

 

[NotChatGPT]

I think people are being overly harsh considering how little chances he’s been getting. I still have plenty of faith that if we start getting the ball to him in the right positions, he’ll score a lot of goals for us. Don’t think it’s much of a surprise that such a young player will struggle a lot when it feels like nothing is coming off

 

[Red Royal]

Wow. There is whole lot of impatience with Hojlund by some posters over this international break. Yes he has looked poor in more than a couple of recent games; but it wasn't long ago that he played really well vs Brentford and got himself a lovely finish. It wasn't that long ago even when he went on that great run last year which shows he can finish and that he is probably deeply low on confidence. Not surprising given he us a 21 year old kid leading the line for Man United. Let's at least give him a chance under Amorin to see what he can do before absolutely writing him off.

 

[Crimson King]

Again, as many people said Mctominay got on to the end of chances Hojlund should be getting to but is never in the right space?

How many times do you see him rubbing his bum on the defenders but having no ability to make runs in behind the defence.

He makes so many few runs and few shots per game that his conversion rate is so high.

Ive got no Link to Denmark & he looks bloody awful and worse for Denmark than he does for United?

Whats your excuse for that? Rashford wasnt whipping balls in to him in a Denmark shirt?

If he was performing for Denmark even with a few goals; which is pretty much totally another team then id be more confident in his ability to perform at United. However he is a ghost both for Denmark & United and excuses are being made consistently.

Young enough for me to give him a chance under a hopefully world class manager helping him be a world class player - but if i had to bet my house on it; then right now i probably wouldnt.

Denmark are pretty shite as well.

I don't know if Højlund will ever live up to his price tag, but I don't think fans with your kind of mindset are really helping. It's almost like you all want him to fail

 

[Grand Vizier]

Again, as many people said Mctominay got on to the end of chances Hojlund should be getting to but is never in the right space?

Why does this keep getting mentioned? McTominay did not have two centre backs in the box marking him. It is significantly more difficult for a striker to get on the end of chances in the box than a box-attacking midfielder who is not getting marked. You may wonder why McTominay or the others got that space to begin with? If you'd guess that the defenders were busy occupying Højlund, you'd be right, but something tells me you think this is not the case.

 

[RedRocket9908]

Again, as many people said Mctominay got on to the end of chances Hojlund should be getting to but is never in the right space?

The difference is McTominay would get in to good positions in the box ready to get on the end of a pass or cross but Hojlund doesnt do that he is usually 2 or 3 steps behind the play.

 

[Denis79]

A good opportunity to bag one or two against Ipswich and gets some confidence back. New coach, Ipswich are poor, might be the game he turns his poor form around.

 

[Shaw's Shank Redemption]

The difference is McTominay would get in to good positions in the box ready to get on the end of a pass or cross but Hojlund doesnt do that he is usually 2 or 3 steps behind the play.

Exactly.

Why does this keep getting mentioned? McTominay did not have two centre backs in the box marking him. It is significantly more difficult for a striker to get on the end of chances in the box than a box-attacking midfielder who is not getting marked. You may wonder why McTominay or the others got that space to begin with? If you'd guess that the defenders were busy occupying Højlund, you'd be right, but something tells me you think this is not the case.

This is where your wrong.

Hojlund isnt in the box with 2 CB's marking him - he is very far away from the box playing his back to goal almost pushing in to the 2 central defenders.

You never really see him do this in the box otherwise he would already be in the right position marked or not.

 

[Grand Vizier]

This is where your wrong.

Hojlund isnt in the box with 2 CB's marking him - he is very far away from the box playing his back to goal almost pushing in to the 2 central defenders.

You never really see him do this in the box otherwise he would already be in the right position marked or not.

Ok, he is never in the box. My eyes just see things that don't happen.

Are you suggesting that as long as the striker is in the box, he is in the right position?

 

[Shaw's Shank Redemption]

Ok, he is never in the box. My eyes just see things that don't happen.

Are you suggesting that as long as the striker is in the box, he is in the right position?

He is in a better position in the box than playing deep away from the box against his back to the defenders having almost no ability to turn around the defenders or making runs in behind that beat the Central defenders.

Hopefully this is just poor tactics that has made him play this way but its also something consistently we are seeing. The channel running striker is never making runs except on a counter but again this maybe tactically what Ten Hag tried to do to use a ST to make the IF score more goals than the striker it self (maybe why he bought Zirkzee).

I think the best example of his inability to make runs is United vs PAOK.

Amad was getting in to positions that really should be Hojlund's position within the box.

Garnacho crossed across goal and Hojlund was no where to be seen and it went directly to Amad instead.
Even Amad's looping header at the back post was in the box and its something id like Hojlund to be on the end of making runs in the box trying to fool the CB's with swift motion.

Finally watch him when Amad pressure's the ball of for his second goal - Hojlund is completely just ball watching and not making any runs even though there is no CB's that are marking him.

A very poor game by Hojlund.

 

[OmarUnited4ever]

he is playing within himself, and also seems lost on the pitch, does not help that Ten Hag was asking the players to send balls directly to him and have him wrestle with CBs all game instead of working the ball towards the box or let him run the channels which he excels in, yes a striker should be able to play with his back to goal but our style of play under Ten Hag did not allow for Hojlund to be part of the play since we do not work the ball patiently towards the box, you don't see Haaland wrestling with CBs all day, he just bides his time and waits for his teammates to create an opportunity for him.

 

[Brwned]

Exactly.


This is where your wrong.

Hojlund isnt in the box with 2 CB's marking him - he is very far away from the box playing his back to goal almost pushing in to the 2 central defenders.

You never really see him do this in the box otherwise he would already be in the right position marked or not.

That’s such a weird position to take. You can see from McTominay’s goals last year that Hojlund was doing the opposite of what you’ve just said.



He was right beside McTominay for the goal against Chelsea, and in front of McTominay with the two defenders beside him against Liverpool. You just need to rewatch the first two goals here to know that he is in the box, is making very purposeful movements and is attracting attention from the centre backs (Thiago Silva, van Dijk) away from McTominay.

If you then watch against Villa, Sheffield United and Wolves, Hojlund is the only other player that ends up in the 6 yard box when the goal goes in, in every occasion he has a centre back on him, and mostly it’s from McTomonay breaking off a midfielder runner from deep while Hojlund is already in the box with the centre backs. So, literally the exact opposite of what you’ve said.