You could argue previous United strikers (I know its unfair to compare) have always had the ability to create moments for themselves, rather than having to be assisted all the time. That being said, a shocking stat and something we certainly need to improve as a team.
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You could argue previous United strikers (I know its unfair to compare) have always had the ability to create moments for themselves, rather than having to be assisted all the time. That being said, a shocking stat and something we certainly need to improve as a team.
Service excuse will be over when he gets some fecking service
Getting on the back of a 20 year old getting no service…yeah you are a prime example of jump the gun analysis on the CAF, it’s pathetic
That's fairly damning of United at the moment. Are we creating chances for anyone? I can't imagine there's been too many.
Care to name a few?
Is he the problem? Ten Hag always takes him off and then we score
When I raised concerns about his ability and his transfer fee, I was bashed greatly here. One even said it is satisfactory if he can score 10 goals this season. The issue is that I have been not sure if he can reach that number.
He has great potential but ETH has to manage his game time carefully and manage his game carefully as well. The unrealistic expectations and the team situation can easily destroy him, a still very young prospect. I don’t think he should be absolute starter at the moment.
He has great potential but ETH has to manage his game time carefully and manage his game carefully as well. The unrealistic expectations and the team situation can easily destroy him, a still very young prospect. I don’t think he should be absolute starter at the moment.
Where's that stat coming from and how is it measured?
A bunch of people have associated him with the manager, so he has to be shit because the alternative is that the manager bought a decent player, and that's not a conclusion they're interested in.
Rooney, Cantona, Martial (when fit), Van Nistelrooy, Saha, Van Persie, Tevez, etc. All could dribble past one or two players and finish chances.
City are a unique case, their style is so polished that they can afford a guy like Haaland who offers little elsewhere. Shouldn't forget that they scored more goals as a team without him than with. His value to them is in the big games, they don't need his goals to beat 95% of the teams they play.
Utd are a long way from that level and can't afford the striker to offer so little outside of goals, we have too many one dimensional forwards.
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Indeed, it's obvious to see, but evidently people are ignoring facts as much as bruno are ignoring højlunds runs...
Bruno need to learn to play to Højlunds strengths. But he obviously doesn't wanna play him at all.
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We know that we work better with Martial as a team thats no denying. He should be coming of the bench or play with Martial.
It's hard to keep up the intensity when you only get 2 forward passes a match and they're both poorly weighted and off target.
I'm not sure why but Bruno doesn't like passing to him. He's not even looking for him.
To be fair, I agree with you, and that's why I was so insistent on us buying Harry Kane.
Look at the team around those players. And Martial did that in his first season, and hasnt really since, and especially Martial has looked awful in this current team.
Its in this very thread. Measured? Its simply a look at all passes done in matches. None from Bruno to Højlund.
They were in a better team, but my point was that they could create something from nothing.
You also mention that Martial did it in his first season. Agreed! What season is Hojlund in for us?
One thing I will note is that there was a moment in the first half where he was holding his back after a challenge, so hopefully the back injury that he had at the beginning of the season isn't raising it's head again. The talk was that it was the kind of injury that would heal over time as long as he got enough rest, but could potentially get worse if he were overplayed. It's why I've actually been a little surprised about how much gametime he has been getting as I thought we'd rotate him a bit more than we have.
Again compare the teams. There are no runs off Højlund, no movement around him. Coincidentally Martial is creating nothing in this team. The only striker bruno tried to find was Ronnie.
The irony of that was not lost on me either.
Cole, Rooney, Zlatan, Cantona, Saha, Tevez.....
I remember the jokers that were trying to extrapolate his scoring record in Serie A to the PL and favourably comparing it to the likes of Toney, Watkins, Isak and Mitrovic.
As I said when we signed him, getting 12 goals in all comps this season is a win for him.
He's an expensive development project signing.
As I said when we signed him, getting 12 goals in all comps this season is a win for him.
He's an expensive development project signing.
Interesting! Wonder if it's to do with his movement, which is something he will obviously get better at? Actually, I remember Bruno telling him to come to the ball, as opposed to running off it, and actually, when you look how well Bruno and Martial linked up a couple of seasons ago, Martial is a player who likes to drop and link play.
Hojlund did that in the CL, no? He does seem capable of doing that but he has to at least be receiving the ball in situations to do that and I don't really think he is.
Cole, Saha and Tevez benefitted from having fantastic team mates doing dangerous runs and pulling players away. Something Højlund doesnt have. If you expect him to be Rooney, Zlatan or Cantona you want something that isnt realistic for United to get.
New to the league, young and we have been quite bad, even before he came. Did anyone really expect him to come in and just score shedloads? You're living in dreamland in that was the case. He's looked good so far, full of energy and physically impressive given its his first season in the prem.
His first season should be a bedding in season but we can't afford to do that as we don't have an established goalscorer. Give some time.
His first season should be a bedding in season but we can't afford to do that as we don't have an established goalscorer. Give some time.
Martial doesnt have Højlunds pace. Why would he run towards Bruno instead of Bruno giving him a pass to run at. Bruno does that to Rashy, why not to Højlund.
Let's not go on like Hojlund hasn't got the ball in good positions. He has, and has very rarely made something of it. He's a poacher! He's not someone to get the ball and make something happen from nothing, regardless of the team. That's my point! I'm pretty sure he'll improve in that regard, though.
Wrong he hasnt, other than in the Gala match, where he scored.
To be fair to him, he did, and that's what I want to see. It was made easier by the player slipping but I would like to see more of that. For example, he had a similar opportunity against City and slightly overran the ball.
Maybe I'm being unfair. I like him. I think his hold up play and physicality is good but I think we need to focus more on getting crosses into him, as he box movement is clever.
Didn't see the game but did he at least have a shot on goal? My theory of 'it doesn't matter who we play up top or what their quality is (Wout, Martial, Hojlund) because our strikers never find an opportunity to shoot' depends on this info 
What am I wrong about? Him being in good positions?
So let me get this straight. Hojlund is playing shite just because Bruno doesn't pass him the ball? No accountability whatsoever for his poor displays? Thats your MO. No accountability for not a single goal, assist or any shred of positive impact in the PL? Bruno not passing the ball is factual but take some responsibility for his shite performances. Plenty of players can make impact on a game without the need of being spoonfed all the time.
For some reasons, Hojlund tends to make wrong move when the other passes to him. It happens quite often. It’s like there is zero chemistry. The passer intents to pass the ball to left, but he expects to get the ball on right. I think it’s due to his lack of awareness of the surroundings.
Exactly. But it's easier to go conspiracy mode, Bruno doesn't like him mode.
I’d be a lot more critical if the other forwards were scoring and assisting, but they are not. We are simply crap as a team, which makes it hard for a player like Højlund. He’d get 25 for Man City, easy.
He does some things well and others not so well. Pretty normal for a young striker.
The fault lies with the team overall and the decision to put our hopes on a 20 year old unproven striker.
He does some things well and others not so well. Pretty normal for a young striker.
The fault lies with the team overall and the decision to put our hopes on a 20 year old unproven striker.
Spoonfed all the time? What kind of nonsense is that. He is receiving NOTHING from Bruno. There is quite a distance between nothing and spoonfed all the time.
He was poor today yes, but when he actually did receive a decent pass from Garnacho he held it up well and passed it well to Bruno who wasted the shot. Second half Rasmus has a clear run, waits and then moves, Bruno looks at him, but simply ignores the run and passes it sideways to Garnacho.
The team has issues, but he's part of it. We always hear about how he's not given service or others are not creating occasions for him, but what occasion or space does he create for the team?
I feel he's overall too easy to mark out of the game for opposition CBs. Anytime others try to find him, he's being sandwiched so you'd need a pinpoint cross to reach him. Maybe it's not on him and it's tactical because we don't overload the box, but our attack is not ticking with him.
I feel he's overall too easy to mark out of the game for opposition CBs. Anytime others try to find him, he's being sandwiched so you'd need a pinpoint cross to reach him. Maybe it's not on him and it's tactical because we don't overload the box, but our attack is not ticking with him.
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