Ali Dia
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We had Ryan Giggs in charge when James Wilson played
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We had Ryan Giggs in charge when James Wilson played
Wow he scored against Bayern in a weird game we still ended up losing!
How does he have no blame in our other matches where he failed to score or provide?Yeah, his goals would also have sent us through in CL, if it wasn't for completely ridiculous team mates, you know? Drawing to Galatasaray and losing to Copenhagen after he scored twice in each game.
What has "weird game" anything to do with it? Do you think our 0-3 loss to Bournemouth was a normal game? Would you be happy if he scored in that match?
No one has lost their head or "being aggressive." Christ almighty, it's not like he's going to be reading the caf after the match. I was excited at first by his decent cameo against Arsenal and was glad he scored in the CL. But he's quickly shown he's not at all that and not worth the 72 million we paid for him. He simply HAS to be scoring more and at the very least have a few assists. The fact he hasn't got any assists in any competition should raise a few eyebrows at least.It’s really strange that people here are having a go at him in an agressive way.
He’s a 20yo striker evolving in a dysfunctioning team in the midst of an injury crisis and takeover, and people are having a go because he had a tough time against Upamecano and Konate with little to no support from his team mates ?
I’d understand saying he has underwhelming performances but people here are loosing their heads and constantly looking for a new person to shit on.
Honestly this place makes little sense.Seems a bit crazy going in hard on him after fecking Bayern and Liverpool of all teams. It’s mad. Our fans are so short term yet are more than willing to complain when we waste money on older players who we only get a season or two out of in the end. Screwed if we do and screwed if we don’t
It’s really strange that people here are having a go at him in an agressive way.
He’s a 20yo striker evolving in a dysfunctioning team in the midst of an injury crisis and takeover, and people are having a go because he had a tough time against Upamecano and Konate with little to no support from his team mates ?
I’d understand saying he has underwhelming performances but people here are loosing their heads and constantly looking for a new person to shit on.
I'm not sure we should have spent that money on a project.He’s playing ahead of the least creative attacking midfielder in the league, flanked by another youngster on one wing and a completely unproductive Antony on the other. The service into him is woeful and he desperately needs a goal. But he also does need to show more, he’s clearly a project but would hope to see a little bit more from him.
How does he have no blame in our other matches where he failed to score or provide?
You literally said he was let down by the team.That's not what I said, but we were comfortably leading those games, and they would have been enough to send us through, if not for some absolute howlers and stupid mistakes. He is not a great striker at the moment, and no one is claiming he is, but he clearly has potential, and you don't need to have a lot of football knowledge to grasp this. Several clubs wanted him, including PSG. He is 20 years old, but his price tag is blinding everyone's view of him. He shouldn't be leading the line for us now, but it's not his fault Atalanta demanded a crazy fee for him or that ten Hag only bought him.
Even Rashford and Martial have scored more in the league.Garnacho is a year younger yet has still managed to score goals in that same team.
I'm not sure we should have spent that money on a project.
Garnacho is a year younger yet has still managed to score goals in that same team.
You literally said he was let down by the team.
I think it's very easy to be dissatisfied with his output against any PL club considering it currently stands at 0.He has scored against Bayern. Are you not satisfied until he scores against Bournemouth, or what's your deal?
The team can't find him because they're not able to create chances. Look at how many chances our attackers create
Comparing us to Brighton is just laughable. Ferguson scores in a fully functional team with a great coach, and a system that makes every player look great. But here's a question for you, do you think he would do that for us?
Even Rashford and Martial have scored more in the league.
That settles it then!
Because that's how football works, right?
One player scores a goal and is the better goal scorer by default.
Well, in that case, Maguire has scored more league goals than Højlund, so he is a better striker.
I dont think you can say this today. Rashfords cutback was there for hojlund to tap it in. He didn't gamble (along with Hannibal) and ederson got to it. He had two good moments to score, and didn't take it.Of course he is let down by the team.
Haaland misses two-three sitters a game. It's normal. Missing chances is a part of being a striker, but it doesn't matter because City will create another 10 chances for him and he'll end up scoring eventually.
We created one chance for Højlund today.
Well, in that case, Maguire has scored more league goals than Højlund, so he is a better striker.
Doesn't work hard enough to get involved, often jogging around pointlessly rather than makeing an effort to get into posistions to receive the ball. Worrying lack of technical ability also struggles in intricate build up.
Decent target man to lump the ball to and can finish with his left foot. But he is looking a bit like the Danish Andy Carroll in all honesty minus the towering aerial ability but with some pace.
Tbf, as bizarre as it sounds, if Maguire was played up front for this Utd side for 882 minutes, he would almost certainly have more returns than Hojlund.
If only Maguire was 20 years old - we could start claiming that he has ‘all the tools’ to be an elite CF!
Yes because he’s playing in prime barcelona to be scoring and assisting for fun at 20yo.No one has lost their head or "being aggressive." Christ almighty, it's not like he's going to be reading the caf after the match. I was excited at first by his decent cameo against Arsenal and was glad he scored in the CL. But he's quickly shown he's not at all that and not worth the 72 million we paid for him. He simply HAS to be scoring more and at the very least have a few assists. The fact he hasn't got any assists in any competition should raise a few eyebrows at least.
Garnacho has been around the team for longer. And this season Hojlund still has scored more than him.Garnacho is a year younger yet has still managed to score goals in that same team.
Garnacho plays on the wing, is 19 years old, and has scored more goals.Yes because he’s playing in prime barcelona to be scoring and assisting for fun at 20yo.
The context has absolutely nothing to do with his performance.
Every other striker bar the top established ones are around the 6-7 goals scored in all comps, and Hojlund has 5, which is very decent for a young striker trying to get settle in a new team and in a new league
BSHonestly this place makes little sense.
It was doom and gloom after the wins at Everton and Chelsea by saying « yeah but the opponents are shite ». People kept claiming we would get a thrashing because of Ten Hag naive tactics and claim this draw as a shite result as well.
And now people are turning on a 20yo striker still trying to adapt to a new league and a new team because he’s not prime Van Persie, all the while screaming all summer « he’s young we need to give him time »
Garnacho has not scored more goals and that’s pretty much it.Garnacho plays on the wing, is 19 years old, and has scored more goals.
Garnacho plays on the wing, is 19 years old, and has scored more goals.
Oh come off it, there's no excuses. You can't bring up his age and then hand wave away the fact that younger players in his own team let alone the rest of the league are outperforming him goals wise.Playing on the wing isn't necessarily a disadvantage, especially with how we play.
And scoring fewer goals than one of our best attacking talents in a long time is somehow an embarrassment, or what are you implying?
He has scored more in the league where it counts. They have the same OVERALL for the season. And I can wager that Garnacho will finish the season with more than Rasmus at their current rate.Garnacho has not scored more goals and that’s pretty much it.
Seems a bit crazy going in hard on him after fecking Bayern and Liverpool of all teams. It’s mad. Our fans are so short term yet are more than willing to complain when we waste money on older players who we only get a season or two out of in the end. Screwed if we do and screwed if we don’t
He has scored more in the league where it counts. They have the same OVERALL for the season. And I can wager that Garnacho will finish the season with more than Rasmus at their current rate.
Out of curiosity, have you identified a replacement for Højlund or who would you rather have, and why?
Don't say Kane.
Why can I not say Kane? I’ll say whoever I choose.
For me, I wanted a proven PL striker to come into the side with Rashford moved wide and Garnacho on the other flank. Even a proven, good Championship striker I would’ve preferred, honestly.
This is a side that just finished 3rd and needed a GOALSCORER first and foremost.
I’ll also add that I absolutely do not subscribe to this utterly pathetic, scarcity mindset that has infected Man Utd in recent years where any player (or manager) that isn’t readily offered to the club is deemed ‘impossible to get’.
I’d have been happy, to varying degrees, with any of Kane, Watkins, Toney, Mitrovic, Solanke, Awonyi, DCL - even a Wissa or Cunha etc would’ve been a wiser and more beneficial transfer.
It didn’t need to be a big name for me, Utd just needed an actual functional, PL ready GOALSCORER.
So how long do we have to wait before people stop making excuses for this guy and accept that he just isnt good enough for this level?