Villa fans must love hearing this. So glad he doesn't play for us anymore
Rashford | Villa | Loan with option to buy
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Villa fans must love hearing this. So glad he doesn't play for us anymore
Raphina must be shaking.
Perfectly normal and not uncommon in workplaces for those on Pip equivalents or those who are unprofessional who are operating.
Nothing remotely inappropriate about it.
He kinda reminds me of one of those people on "Faces of Meth" on their second or third mugshot.
When did we do this?
He did mention it in his interview that he probably wouldn't be there beyond the loan.
"Obviously it's only short-term I'm here so I want to make the most of my time here and the only way to do that is by using my attributes and my skill set to help the team."
Not sure how I'll react to it if I was a Villa fan. Not too positively I believe.
"Obviously it's only short-term I'm here so I want to make the most of my time here and the only way to do that is by using my attributes and my skill set to help the team."
Not sure how I'll react to it if I was a Villa fan. Not too positively I believe.
i think they’d be pretty mad about it, if they could read.
Disappointed to say the least. He should be maturing into a dressing room leader, not leaving under an attitude cloud.
I can see him doing well for Villa before fading after they get beaten in the UCL. He'll then get caught in a Birmingham nightclub with some reality tv babe and it'll start all over again.
It would have been good to sign a replacement but, in hindsight, there's no chance of UCL next season. Better to wait until the right player for the new set-up is available.
I feel we're lining up Gyokeres for this summer, as Amorim is true to his word regarding the signing of Sporting players. I hope the hype surrounding him translates to him stepping up in the EPL. If he comes......
Is it common that people under contract would agree to that? And why would they, the employer is legally obligated to pay.
You're right, it's true. I'm quite surprised that it is legal, but they could if they wanted to.
I assume last week? Or so The Athletic claims.
Well if it was in order to sell him, seems normal.
Straight from his the other mentor Pogbas book, never badmouth club, but his leaker will do that for him all over the media. Of course rashy not going to squash the rumour. Classic
Bet they can hear!
Yes it is not uncommon. Unprofessional / chronically underperforming staff can be put on an equivalent (such as a PIP, performance incentive plan) whereby they are given a cut or review before they are sacked or repositioned, or on lesser pay in the role they are in until they can justify their worth.
All the club did is tell him hel have more options if he took a cut for another club because they will be negotiating the wages. He's welcome to decline, which he did. But the conversation of these sorts of situations is not uncommon. In fact far worse is done in workplaces if they want to get rid of people.
Is a player allowed to be transferred twice in one window?
These things work both ways.
Getting paid insane amounts of money to play football and not being arsed to try and maybe do better is not appropriate or respectful behaviour.
Both him and DDG were being paid as if they were one of the best in the world, neither was anywhere close in terms of ability or performances for a long time before the club decided to get rid. Neither can really have any complaints.
What happens if Villa put in the 40m but Rashford doesn’t wanna join them? He thinks it’s only short term so he’s probably still holding out for a move to Barca or somewhere. Depending on his performances
Because he's not fecking earnt his wages for the last two years.
Do you think Rashford has been professional for the last 2 years? Plus at the first hint of having to actually train properly he says he wants to leave!
I thought Rashford was on an 'option to sign' loan - the option being up to Villa, suggesting he'd agreed terms to join permanently if Villa took up that option.
Strange if he did sign that and yet immediately talks like it's just a normal, short term loan and that he isn't intending to join permanently?
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Can only assume the player still has a say? Bizarre behaviour from him. If we didn't already know his advisors are numpties, and he is a bit of a nob, then we do now.
If he aint signing there's nothing Villa can do
The options legally binds United. Not Rashford
The option i believe binds United. As in United cant refuse if Villa said they want him and pay the 40M
That gives Villa the right to negotiate contract with Rashford. But it's still subject to Rashford agreeing to the move
Unless they made an extra clause with Rashford for an agreement of new contract should the option executed, which i doubt
Oh, right. I was under the impression that the player themselves would have also agreed to the 'option to buy' in the initial loan. And that, by opting to activate the clause, Villa themselves could compete the deal.
However, if the player then demanded to move elsewhere, Villa could negotiate a sale with, say, Barcelona. But that it would be them, not us, doing so (of course they'd only do that if Barcelona were prepared to pay more than the £40m option, giving Villa a quick profit).
The buying club aren't in as strong a position as I thought if the player can still just turn down the move after the loan despite the agreement. Does the same apply to 'obligation to buy' loans, or does the player have to fully agree to the terms before that kind of deal?
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People trying to rationalise Ineos asking Rashford to take a pay cut, because they don't like him, is rather amazing. Sad state of affairs.
According to @giorno if Villa want to keep him then he doesn't have a say as he's agreed a 3 1/2 year contract.
I always thought it was the case of the loan club had first dibs from the minimum agreed price up to whatever they wanted to go to but if someone bids more than their maximum the other team can buy him. And obviously the player had to agree but apparently he's already agreed to sign with them permanently if villa take up the option.
Depends on what was negotiated. There are options dependent on the players agreement and there are options where the player has agreed before and can’t do anything to stop the club from activating it.
By the looks of it, I would guess that in Rashford‘s case it’s the first variant.
Perhaps they think he's been taking the piss for 2 years and were hoping he'd have some decency and help the club out for 4 months but obviously he doesn't give a shit now and for the last 2 years.
Sad state of affairs for sure.
I'd say it's more because they support Man United more than any individual player - and so have the clubs priorities more in mind rather than sticking up for some people's favourite player. The same argument as was very popular here during the equally high profile and controversial Ronaldo departure, amid the regular 'fanboy' insults for anyone siding with the player v the club.
There's nothing decent about it. The club agreed to a contract and have to honour it. Asking him to forego 75k in wages is insane.
To an extent, though I believe the dislike of the player plays a big part.
Hopefully he performs well if he has Barca as motivation. Then we can actually get a half decent fee for him
The same with the Ronaldo situation, yeah.
I guess unless you've got a deep and unwavering support for Rashford (and Ronaldo in the other instance), then many fans would be frustrated and angered by his off field antics and poor effort / performances over the last couple of years.
Witnessing what we've done with so many players that have angered fans, and all the stories of poor attitudes around the dressing room and the club needing open heart surgery, etc - then many will be frustrated at the main embodiment of all that in the current squad once it becomes so well known and high profile.
You have to be a huge fan of his to feel the need to keep fighting his corner for him and siding with him above the clubs interests - even if no-one really comes out of it looking good.
He knows its short term. His camp already told him they will go for a year loan to barça. He wont do s**t to try and stay at villa, he just wanted out not to be humiliated every week at the presser.
I'm extremely frustrated with Rashford and very sad by how things have turned out. That doesn't mean I think the club should be asking him to reduce his wages. When has this ever happened?
Oh he wants the a Barcelona move? Maybe see if you can break into Villa's starting 11 first Marcus.
Not a great start to a new club is it getting word out that he has no plans to stay before he’s even kicked a ball…
Seeing as I keep getting quoted in this thread, here's the relevant tweet
Already talk of moving to Barcelona, try getting in the team first lad otherwise you'll end up at Betis with Antony.