Rashford | Villa | Loan with option to buy

Ekeke said:
Yes it clearly looks like hes someone who was capable of scoring 30 goals for us, and is currently doing decently well for a team who are 7th while our current team has scored just 30 goals all season and we're 15th

Sometimes you have to accept that
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He did that only once in his almost ten seasons here and in his second best season he scored 22, how is that even an argument?

Ekeke said:
We dont know how he trained. We know how Amorim felt he trained. We know Amorim felt he didnt change in the way he wanted. That doesnt mean it didnt happen, it means Amorim's feeling is it didnt happen.

Either way Emery is clearly happy to have him at least on the bench if not starting. We'll see how that goes and if he drops him because he doesnt press enough or something
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Why do you think he wasn't instant starter for Villa if he's trained well, or if he did well in previous games? If he was good in training surely he should have been match ready by now considering he wasn't missing any trainings for us.

The fact that he wasn't match fit so far should tell you few things about his level of training in recent months.
 
Amar__ said:
He did that only once in his almost ten seasons here and in his second best season he scored 22, how is that even an argument?



Why do you think he wasn't instant starter for Villa if he's trained well, or if he did well in previous games? If he was good in training surely he should have been match ready by now considering he wasn't missing any trainings for us.

The fact that he wasn't match fit so far should tell you few things about his level of training in recent months.
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Yes. So he did it. So he can do it. Thats how things work
 
Ekeke said:
He was dropped for months so how could he play well?

Before that he was good against Everton on the 1st of December scoring 2 goals. He was then dropped and not seen again for United after the 12th of the same month
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He had no goals or assists for us every game he was banished for having a personality. Weird, probably lazy
 
B20 said:
Even if he wasn't a massive issue for you on and off the pitch, but simply going through the motions, there's no position for him in a 343. So unless the square peg can be made round (considering also he's never struck me as versatile), it's also a case of simply offloading the sellable assets that doesn't fit in the manager's setup.

See also Garnacho.

Personally I think that's a dumb consequence of choosing an inflexible manager with an approach poorly suited to this squad, but it's one that should be embraced by the top management the moment they decided to go with Amorim.
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Good points made.
A lot of people claiming Rashford would be better in the team but as you've pointed out he doesn't fit the system.
He can't play as a 9/10 and is more effective coming in from the left.
To be fair to him he most probably thought
" My position is on the left, I've been messed around too many times, I want back into England camp and I'm not prepared to learn another role"
Ruben's inability to be flexible on his system is also another issue.
 
Ekeke said:
Yes. So he did it. So he can do it. Thats how things work
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No, that's how stating history football facts work. That's not how discusssing football using arguments work. Otherwise people would be saying stuff like we should sign Van Der Sar for peanuts because he was the best in the league, hence better than Onana. Just because he did something few seasons ago, and that happened just once in 10 seasons, it doesn't mean it's valid argument. Not unless you are 10 year old and discussing on facebook.

Why did you ignore my question about him not starting games?
 
Amar__ said:
No, that's how stating history football facts work. That's not how discusssing football using arguments work. Otherwise people would be saying stuff like we should sign Van Der Sar for peanuts because he was the best in the league, hence better than Onana. Just because he did something few seasons ago, and that happened just once in 10 seasons, it doesn't mean it's valid argument. Not unless you are 10 year old and discussing on facebook.

Why did you ignore my question about him not starting games?
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So you dont think that someone doing something is proof they can do it. Right I'll ignore you from now on
 
He’s playing for a big move to an elite club where he can carve a comfy niche there.

He’s that girl in the nightclub who’s got her eye on Chad Thundercock brooding in the corner and decided to snog some random 6/10 twat right in front of him in order to provoke Chad into making a move.
 
Would just comment that all I hope is he plays motivated at least 3 months so we get some money for him and move him on. Same with Sancho.
 
It was all about the money. If he were on 150k a week things would have been different
 
Von Mistelroum said:
It's so weird to see people defending a player who blatantly refused to make any effort for the club you're meant to support. Who was constantly sulking around, going out with his mates, walking around the pitch looking completely disinterested and watching opposition players pass him with the ball. Who suddenly couldn't run past anyone and didn't know what a cross was if it wasn't on a big hold chain around his neck.

Worse still, he's finally been deservedly dropped, and instead of thinking about the club, could only think of himself. Immediately moaning in the press (again) about moving on elsewhere instead of putting in a shift in training. Then when he gets his move he's suddenly arsed again because he's no longer sitting comfortable on huge wages able to not be arsed. Suddenly he's playing for a move elsewhere. Selfish to the core and more than happy to leave United in the shit.

Cannot wait to see the back of him, and I do not wish him well.
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100% correct.
 
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