No clubs are interested in Messi. He's a terrible player then, confirmed.
Rashford is as good as Mbappé...
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No clubs are interested in Messi. He's a terrible player then, confirmed.
They came, we just kept saying no. Madrid wanted Ronaldo from as early 2006 remember after the world cup incident with Rooney. Fergy had fly out to Portugal to convince the guy to stay.
On Topic - I dont think Rashford has the natural instincts that Mbappe has. Mbappe makes things look easy, in the same way Messi looks very natural. But Ronaldo has managed to challenge Messi all these years, so I dont see why Marcus couldnt.
Is there any current club interested in Asensio ?
Well there you've just said it yourself, he appeared attainable for a short window until SAF slammed it shut. When players appear attainable the sharks circle.
I'm 100% certain that a big fall out between Rashford and the club, a player, Mourinho etc would see a host of clubs in line to bid big for Rashford and you're a damn fool if you don't realise that.
I dont get your post, All I wanted to point out is Madrid wanted Ronaldo before he was 24 and a Balon dor.
They were interested him, well yeah, when he looked like he wanted to turn his back on England I'm sure a load of clubs were interested. They didn't "really" want him al la Madrid style though did they? That came later one he was a Balon dor winner.
The point stands anyway in this discussion, often players who appear unattainable don't get much interest. But make no mistake, Monaco's entire squad was available for the right price this summer, Rashford, Kane, Messi, de Bruyne, Suarez, Ronaldo were not.
Could someone tell what the questionmarks about Mbappe's skillset are for those who aren't to fond of him?
There usually is a particular reason for why people tend be cautious about a young player. Not really seeing anything severe in his case.
There usually is a particular reason for why people tend be cautious about a young player. Not really seeing anything severe in his case.
Agreed. I've watched Mbappe and Martial and I've seen nothing from Mbappe that would suggest he's on another level talent-wise.
Arsenal tried, just like with Mbappe, Benzema, Lemar, etc...they tried.
It is silly to use transfer interest as a barometer for a player's potential, there are so many different circumstances that can affect an interest. As others have pointed out, is Messi a scrub for not garnering any transfer interest? We just all know they're not going anywhere, same with Rashford.
Exactly this. Clubs aren't interested in some players because they will never move. It was really a lame point of discussion.
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Why are people so obsessed with "low-key"ing our young and emerging talents? This kid is going to be a fecking star and it is pretty obvious, who cares who he is as good as. Celebrate his talent and enjoy his emerging success.
This should go to credit Martial and his talent, not further overrated and overhyped Mbappe. What makes this a default achievement for Mbappe anyways.
Rarely you see even the likes of Hazard manage those numbers. Martial had an extraordinary season for a 19 year old and that spoke volume about his talent and abilities.
A 19 year old Martial still has a better season than Mbappe. Easily put in great numbers playing as a winger.
Last year he was mismanaged by a manager known to mishandled youngsters and players of his ilk.
This year he's already far out preforming Mbappe with most apparence being sub ones. Yet you have people believing this gulf in class because 1 is currently going through ridiculous hype while the other had his hype die down due to an unfortunate second season.
Mbappe is a better talent and player than Rashford but he's vastly overrated. People just have to reread the things they wrote in this thread.
He absolutely isn't at all, he's simply overrated and currently the youngster with the most hype right now.
This happens with youngsters a lot, when they break through they go through that initial hype phase, especially of they seem special but they get overhyped nonetheless.
People throwing all those outrageous statements are forgetting that Martial himself was once the best young player in the world, won a golden ball and backed it with a terrific season as a 19 years old.
Had an average second season under a very though manager for young players and those of his ilk but he's back on form again and outperforming Mbappe while easily blowing his numbers.
People will talk but the fact of the matter is that Martial has easily been putting number equals if not superior than the likes of Hazard since joining the PL, just let that sink in. And Hazard is a player seen as one of the best in the league and Martial just 21 has comparable numbers.
There are only a few clubs that Rashford would be "linked to"... NO english clubs could take him since we are Manchester United.... and why would he leave to go anywhere but maybe barca or Real Madrid?
I'm not on the hype train for Mbappe... thought his stats were padded a bit at Monaco... good for him moving to the giant in France and getting paid. Keep producing at PSG and he'll probably move to Madrid. Toss up atm... edge to Mbappe atm... but I'll keep our english boy for the next 10 years and see what happens.
I'm not on the hype train for Mbappe... thought his stats were padded a bit at Monaco... good for him moving to the giant in France and getting paid. Keep producing at PSG and he'll probably move to Madrid. Toss up atm... edge to Mbappe atm... but I'll keep our english boy for the next 10 years and see what happens.
Mbappe's finishing skills are better, off the final third rashford has the edge. Rashford has to improve his finishing skills.
If he keeps playing as an outside forward, I think he will do a fantastic career for us. I don't think he has the profile to be a striker.
Hopefully the english media remains tangled with the kane and ali hype so that rashford can keephis focus on the pitch.
Not yet, but down the line he can.
This.
Decision making is an insane term, especially when you try to associate it with goals and assists. When Ronaldo hammered in that free kick against Arsenal in the champions league, was it good or bad decision making ?
Ronaldo never catched up to Rooney in terms of "decision making" or intelligence on the pitch, never surpassed him there either.
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Rashford is a tier below Mbappe, but he still is/going to be a fantastic player.
Pace: Its pretty even id say, It doesn't matter if one is quicker than the other both are capable of outrunning almost any defender
Finishing: I think Mbappe takes this
Strength: Again it's pretty even
Dribbling: Mbappe
Free kicks: Rashford by default
Decision making: Mbappe
Passing: Rashford, I feel it's a hugely underrated part of his game he has an eye for the perfect pass on the ground and in the air.
Heading: probably even
Just doing this for my own benefit because when you go through the individual qualities they would seem just as good as each other. It's hard to explain but Mbappe just feels like he's more destined for the very top whereas Rashford would have to work extremely hard at it and might never get there because he can go missing against bigger teams.
When people say they don't think Mbappe will make it to the very highest level and that he might be overrated, I think it's just an opinion devoid of substance. The level he plays at, the only logical conclusion to draw about him is that he'all become at the very least a top 3 ballon d'or candidate, which puts him at an elite level. Right now I expect that from him in the next few years but if Rashford were to get there I'd be thrilled, but ultimately shocked, based on how they are both performing at this stage of their career.
Finishing: I think Mbappe takes this
Strength: Again it's pretty even
Dribbling: Mbappe
Free kicks: Rashford by default
Decision making: Mbappe
Passing: Rashford, I feel it's a hugely underrated part of his game he has an eye for the perfect pass on the ground and in the air.
Heading: probably even
Just doing this for my own benefit because when you go through the individual qualities they would seem just as good as each other. It's hard to explain but Mbappe just feels like he's more destined for the very top whereas Rashford would have to work extremely hard at it and might never get there because he can go missing against bigger teams.
When people say they don't think Mbappe will make it to the very highest level and that he might be overrated, I think it's just an opinion devoid of substance. The level he plays at, the only logical conclusion to draw about him is that he'all become at the very least a top 3 ballon d'or candidate, which puts him at an elite level. Right now I expect that from him in the next few years but if Rashford were to get there I'd be thrilled, but ultimately shocked, based on how they are both performing at this stage of their career.
It's as funny as when Liverpool did a which United player would get into our first XI in 07/08 and ended up with 1 or 2 players
TO the person who started this thread, I suggest you look at Mbappe's performance against Bayern. As much as I love Rashford, there is no comparison yet. (on the flip side, who knows whether Mbappe will burn out early and be changed by an injury)
I'm sure rival forums are having a lot of fun with this biased opinion. Any neutrality would tell you MBappe is two levels ahead of Rashford at least and there is nothing wrong with that because Rashford can still turn out world class too.
I'm sure rival forums are having a lot of fun with this biased opinion. Any neutrality would tell you MBappe is two levels ahead of Rashford at least and there is nothing wrong with that because Rashford can still turn out world class too.
I do think it is more so because United isn't a selling club and top clubs rarely buy English talent and PL clubs know we won't let Rashford go to our direct rivals.
Mbappe on the other hand belongs to Monaco, who are a selling club.
I can't believe I have to argue on this but De Gea is a Spanish goalkeeper so obviously Madrid showed interest in him. I don't remember the last time top clubs(Barca, Bayern, Real etc) wanted a English player unless they were exceptional.
Where did I write it equates to poor decision making ?
He was good, but Bayern was shot.
The moment you decided to follow your post with such statistics
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He is just the flavour of the month, all these people saying that he is the next Messi. He will be lucky to be half the player of Messi.
Pretty sure that Rashford would tear up defences in the French league too. Having said that, Mbappe has been more than effective in the Champions league too. And at the moment Mbappe seems to make better decisions in the final third a bit more than Rashford, so for these reasons alone I'd give Mbappe the slight edge for now.
If it were true we would have never bought Lukaku.
That makes no sense if you've even the first clue about a Jose Mourinho team.
Mbappe's a very talented youngster with a breakout season under his belt which has massively increased his value in an already overinflated transfer market.
Rashford's OUR very talented youngster who had his own breakout season a couple of years ago but has been generally less hyped since we were in a fight for Top 4 and not the champions league semi finals.
I usually respect people opinions but I cannot seem to understand how people can label mbappe as a "Generational talent","Genuinely world class" and "2 levels above Rashford" after watching him perform for a SINGLE season in a DIFFERENT league. So every teenager that has a breakout season now is "World Class" by CAF Standards?
Back to the thread argument, I do think Mbappe has a better end product than Rashford right now. This however does not mean that he'll always continue to be the better player over their respective careers, neither of them have turned even 20 FFS.
Rashford's OUR very talented youngster who had his own breakout season a couple of years ago but has been generally less hyped since we were in a fight for Top 4 and not the champions league semi finals.
I usually respect people opinions but I cannot seem to understand how people can label mbappe as a "Generational talent","Genuinely world class" and "2 levels above Rashford" after watching him perform for a SINGLE season in a DIFFERENT league. So every teenager that has a breakout season now is "World Class" by CAF Standards?
Back to the thread argument, I do think Mbappe has a better end product than Rashford right now. This however does not mean that he'll always continue to be the better player over their respective careers, neither of them have turned even 20 FFS.
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